Federal Control of Local PDs-the Endgame

[The Rabbi]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

 

[occupied]

There is no pattern, unless it is a pattern of fucking up royally by local cops. Things have to change for the better, If police departments let their towns turn into a war zone they deserve to be relived of their command. There is no excuse for letting shit get that far out of hand.

 

[DarkFury]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Not as tin foil as you may think. It would be a good way to federalize local police using back channels and "public" approval.

 

[Skylar]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Yeah, that's definitely tin foil batshit.

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no pattern, unless it is a pattern of fucking up royally by local cops. Things have to change for the better, If police departments let their towns turn into a war zone they deserve to be relived of their command. There is no excuse for letting shit get that far out of hand.

Hmm, Ferguson protestors, Baltimore protestors, Cleveland protestors. Followed in every case by DOJ investigation and settlement ceding much control to the DOJ.
If that doesnt look like a pattern to you you need glasses.

 

[Skylar]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Not as tin foil as you may think. It would be a good way to federalize local police using back channels and "public" approval.

Except Fergeson isn't a 'federal police force'. And neither is Cleveland. So that right there just kills the conspiracy.

Second, fergeson and Cleveland are two municipalities out of thousands. At the rate being cited, we'll have a federal police force sometime in the early 2420s. Maybe the 2430s. And I'm pretty sure Obama isn't gonna be president then.

Third, federal oversight is temporary. LA had it for a little while. It doesn't now. So the underlying assumption that once you have federal oversight, you always have it is fundamentally flawed.

There's nothing about this conspiracy that holds up. But then, conspiracies rarely do.

 

[Mr. H.]

Interesting how Obama's "home town" of Chicago seems exempt from such scrutiny. Where's the take-over in that city?
Ain't nevah gonna happen.

Where are the feds when you "need" them...

How can Chicago let this happen, let alone look the other way...

Big White bastard torturing Blacks and Minorities.

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[S.J.]

His goal is to federalize EVERYTHING, but yeah, police force needs to be done first, in order to federalize everything else.

 

[The Rabbi]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Not as tin foil as you may think. It would be a good way to federalize local police using back channels and "public" approval.

Except Fergeson isn't a 'federal police force'. And neither is Cleveland. So that right there just kills the conspiracy.

Second, fergeson and Cleveland are two municipalities out of thousands. At the rate being cited, we'll have a federal police force sometime in the early 2420s. Maybe the 2430s. And I'm pretty sure Obama isn't gonna be president then.

Third, federal oversight is temporary. LA had it for a little while. It doesn't now. So the underlying assumption that once you have federal oversight, you always have it is fundamentally flawed.

There's nothing about this conspiracy that holds up. But then, conspiracies rarely do.

You're telling me Justice is not exerting control over those PDs? ANd you conveniently leave out Baltimore.
Start with the big cities and move down the list.

 

[DarkFury]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Yeah, that's definitely tin foil batshit.

No, it's quite viable. By allowing the feds to put locals on restriction you ARE in fact giving the feds control. And we KNOW at this point MANY protesters were paid so that figures in.

A scam has one of two elements you follow to the source. Money or power. Figure WHO wound up with the money OR the power and you find who started the scam. So it's QUITE viable.

 

[DarkFury]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Not as tin foil as you may think. It would be a good way to federalize local police using back channels and "public" approval.

Except Fergeson isn't a 'federal police force'. And neither is Cleveland. So that right there just kills the conspiracy.

Second, fergeson and Cleveland are two municipalities out of thousands. At the rate being cited, we'll have a federal police force sometime in the early 2420s. Maybe the 2430s. And I'm pretty sure Obama isn't gonna be president then.

Third, federal oversight is temporary. LA had it for a little while. It doesn't now. So the underlying assumption that once you have federal oversight, you always have it is fundamentally flawed.

There's nothing about this conspiracy that holds up. But then, conspiracies rarely do.

You're telling me Justice is not exerting control over those PDs? ANd you conveniently leave out Baltimore.
Start with the big cities and move down the list.

The liberals are kind of in a corner here with their big cities. The cities CANNOT force the state to bail them out but the feds could. And the cities NEED that money. Chicago just got turned down for a STATE tax to benefit Chicago.

 

[Skylar]

His goal is to federalize EVERYTHING, but yeah, police force needs to be done first, in order to federalize everything else.

Wow. Its just fascinating to watch the echo-chamber in action. There's really no questioning this kind of batshit with you guys, is there? No real thoughts. No verification of anything. No concept of Occam's Razor.

Just straight down the rabbit hole. Its actually kinda fun to watch.

 

[S.J.]

His goal is to federalize EVERYTHING, but yeah, police force needs to be done first, in order to federalize everything else.

Wow. Its just fascinating to watch the echo-chamber in action. There's really no questioning this kind of batshit with you guys, is there? No real thoughts. No verification of anything. No concept of Occam's Razor.

Just straight down the rabbit hole. Its actually kinda fun to watch.

Nice try at diversion but Obama's record is pretty clear. BTW, "You didn't build that".

 

[DarkFury]

His goal is to federalize EVERYTHING, but yeah, police force needs to be done first, in order to federalize everything else.

Wow. Its just fascinating to watch the echo-chamber in action. There's really no questioning this kind of batshit with you guys, is there? No real thoughts. No verification of anything. No concept of Occam's Razor.

Just straight down the rabbit hole. Its actually kinda fun to watch.

How about results? How many major cities are now under DOJ control?

 

[Clementine]

There is no pattern, unless it is a pattern of fucking up royally by local cops. Things have to change for the better, If police departments let their towns turn into a war zone they deserve to be relived of their command. There is no excuse for letting shit get that far out of hand.

Which is it? Are cops trying to hard to clean up the streets, hence the over crowded prisons, or are they not arresting enough people?

Cops are there to arrest criminals. They do not create the criminals. Maybe you can come up with something to help the people who turn to crime at an early age and pose a danger to society.

The feds fuck up everything they control. Look at border control. Obama tells them to basically look the other way, don't retaliate if attacked and he has them acting as tour guides when illegals come in asking where they go to get amnesty and other benefits. The drug cartels rule the border and the guards are literally told to run and hide if fired upon. Gosh, wouldn't that be great in cities when criminals run amok?

Obama's justice department has been a huge joke and the last agency that should oversee any police. While the libs are running around like hysterical lunatics shouting about how cops are killing black suspects, they ignore stats that prove white suspects are shot far more often. Not that it matters because they have an agenda and they ignore or exaggerate as needed.

 

[Skylar]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Yeah, that's definitely tin foil batshit.

No, it's quite viable.

Nope. Not even a little. We've already got a national police force: the FBI and the US Marshalls. To a lesser extent, the Secret Service and National Park Rangers.

Federal oversight isn't a federal police force. Your conspiracy fails the viability test on that alone. There's also the tiny number of municipalities that are under federal oversight, the glacial pace, and the municipalities that come out from under federal oversight.

None of which resulted in a 'federal police force'.

This is poorly thought fan fiction that's feeds into the fringe right wing neo-confederate secessionist fantasies. None of it is actually happening, nor is likely to ever happen. If it did, the expansion of the existing national police forces make a hell of a lot more sense.

By allowing the feds to put locals on restriction you ARE in fact giving the feds control. And we KNOW at this point MANY protesters were paid so that figures in.

Regulation isn't the same thing as a federal police force. Not even close. It would be like saying that since the feds influence speed limits with highway block grants that they've 'nationalized' all car dealerships. It a nonsense argument, failing on the simple meaning of words.

A scam has one of two elements you follow to the source. Money or power. Figure WHO wound up with the money OR the power and you find who started the scam. So it's QUITE viable.

Nope. You're dealing with a set of assumptions that you can't factually support. And then trying to awkwardly overlay them onto a this situation. And the square pegs don't fit in the round holes. Your assumptions simply don't play out, match the circumstances you're describing, or even the definitions you're trying to apply. Worse, your conspiracy is pointless complicated, needlessly elaborate, and requires a vast conspiracy of secrecy that our government simply isn't capable of in regards to public policy.

 

[DarkFury]

So it appears the Obama Administration has a little outgoing gift for us: federalize local police departments. The PD in Ferguson MO got that treatment, the mayor in Baltimore surrendered her PD's independence and now Cleveland. The pattern seems clear: a racial incident involving police, paid protestors, followed by Justice Department findings of "racism" and ending with PDs being put under Justice supervision.
I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there. There is a definite pattern to see.

Yeah, that's definitely tin foil batshit.

No, it's quite viable.

Nope. Not even a little. We've already got a national police force: the FBI and the US Marshalls. To a lesser extent, the Secret Service and National Park Rangers.

Federal oversight isn't a federal police force. Your conspiracy fails the viability test on that alone. There's also the tiny number of municipalities that are under federal oversight, the glacial pace, and the municipalities that come out from under federal oversight.

None of which resulted in a 'federal police force'.

This is poorly thought fan fiction that's feeds into the fringe right wing neo-confederate secessionist fantasies. None of it is actually happening, nor is likely to ever happen. If it did, the expansion of the existing national police forces make a hell of a lot more sense.

By allowing the feds to put locals on restriction you ARE in fact giving the feds control. And we KNOW at this point MANY protesters were paid so that figures in.

Regulation isn't the same thing as a federal police force. Not even close. It would be like saying that since the feds influence speed limits with highway block grants that they've 'nationalized' all car dealerships. It a nonsense argument, failing on the simple meaning of words.

A scam has one of two elements you follow to the source. Money or power. Figure WHO wound up with the money OR the power and you find who started the scam. So it's QUITE viable.

Nope. You're dealing with a set of assumptions that you can't factually support. And then trying to awkwardly overlay them onto a this situation. And the square pegs don't fit in the round holes. Your assumptions simply don't play out, match the circumstances you're describing, or even the definitions you're trying to apply. Worse, your conspiracy is pointless complicated, needlessly elaborate, and requires a vast conspiracy of secrecy that our government simply isn't capable of in regards to public policy.

Federal oversight and federal control are two different things and right now they are under federal control thus making it viable.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

THE RABBI SAID:

“I realize this is tin foil hat stuff but the evidence is there.”

Nonsense.

It's solely tinfoil hat delusion and idiocy, completely devoid of 'evidence.'

 

[occupied]

There is no pattern, unless it is a pattern of fucking up royally by local cops. Things have to change for the better, If police departments let their towns turn into a war zone they deserve to be relived of their command. There is no excuse for letting shit get that far out of hand.

Which is it? Are cops trying to hard to clean up the streets, hence the over crowded prisons, or are they not arresting enough people?

Cops are there to arrest criminals. They do not create the criminals. Maybe you can come up with something to help the people who turn to crime at an early age and pose a danger to society.

The feds fuck up everything they control. Look at border control. Obama tells them to basically look the other way, don't retaliate if attacked and he has them acting as tour guides when illegals come in asking where they go to get amnesty and other benefits. The drug cartels rule the border and the guards are literally told to run and hide if fired upon. Gosh, wouldn't that be great in cities when criminals run amok?

Obama's justice department has been a huge joke and the last agency that should oversee any police. While the libs are running around like hysterical lunatics shouting about how cops are killing black suspects, they ignore stats that prove white suspects are shot far more often. Not that it matters because they have an agenda and they ignore or exaggerate as needed.

Cops fuck up in their mission by treating the public as the enemy and not knowing when to pause the tough guy act. No one likes getting treated like garbage and that resentment grows in a community where asshole cops are coddled and even respected by their command. I know all this sounds touchy-feely to a fascist such as yourself but there is a great need for the police to win back the respect they have lost by adopting a war zone mentality.

 

[tinydancer]

In the Progressive Messiah's own words...

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

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