FDR

[regent]

Registered as a Republican- you don't agree with his politics- so you call him a Democrat.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported.

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

No we talk about Lincoln a lot, but none of what you said answered point with you or has anything to do with this thread

 

[regent]

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

No we talk about Lincoln a lot, but none of what you said answered point with you or has anything to do with this thread

Seems the thread is titled FDR so I assumed it was something to do with the former president. You could start a thread on Lincoln and I wouldn't mention FDR. Well, maybe a comparison.

 

[Camp]

Registered as a Republican- you don't agree with his politics- so you call him a Democrat.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported.

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

 

[Moonglow]

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

You're reaching so far for a conclusion you fell out of your chair...

 

[buckeye45_73]

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

You're reaching so far for a conclusion you fell out of your chair...

Sorry Moon, go back to Arkansas and suck on Slick Willy's dick.

 

[Moonglow]

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

You're reaching so far for a conclusion you fell out of your chair...

Sorry Moon, go back to Arkansas and suck on Slick Willy's dick.

Why would I go to Arkanass, I don't live there, and yet again, you seem to have a problem with facts, but not fiction...If you want to wallow in the mud with Polislic, you haven't far to go...At least she believes in the Heritage Foundation...

 

[Camp]

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

The holocaust had little if anything to do with my post. You obviously can not address the points I made or the quote from your on link and source. Your one of those idiots that will post a link without reading it, let alone understand what it says.

 

[Unkotare]

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

 

[Camp]

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

You are such a jerk. I quoted Wolfgang Shivilbusch. The quote is in parenthesis and followed by his name, clearly a quote. Furthermore, Shivelbusch was referring to the pre-war era of the 1930's.
As far as the constitution goes, the US Constitution stayed in force during FDR. He passed legislation that challenged it, but he always followed the rulings of the court when they passed judgment. You can not name a single time FDR did not adhere to the rulings of SCOTUS.

Shivelbush said, "to compare is not to equate". You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps in the US and Hitler's concentration camps. In fact, it kind of sucks that you compare the injustices done to Japanese in America after Pearl Harbor with what happened to the Jews after Hitler came to power. There is barely a comparison. The Jews prayed to get treatment like the Japanese interned in the US. You should be ashamed of constantly demanding that Japanese Americans suffered the way European Jew's suffered and persistently try to equate American Japanese camps with Nazi death camps.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

You are such a jerk. I quoted Wolfgang Shivilbusch. The quote is in parenthesis and followed by his name, clearly a quote. Furthermore, Shivelbusch was referring to the pre-war era of the 1930's.
As far as the constitution goes, the US Constitution stayed in force during FDR. He passed legislation that challenged it, but he always followed the rulings of the court when they passed judgment. You can not name a single time FDR did not adhere to the rulings of SCOTUS.

Shivelbush said, "to compare is not to equate". You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps in the US and Hitler's concentration camps. In fact, it kind of sucks that you compare the injustices done to Japanese in America after Pearl Harbor with what happened to the Jews after Hitler came to power. There is barely a comparison. The Jews prayed to get treatment like the Japanese interned in the US. You should be ashamed of constantly demanding that Japanese Americans suffered the way European Jew's suffered and persistently try to equate American Japanese camps with Nazi death camps.

Before the Holocaust ramped up...Jews were stripped of rights and herded into.ghettos and camps like the Japanese were. It's a similar idea....no fdr wasn't going to put japs in ovens or toxic showers or even kill them with shooting squads....but the internment program was very Nazi like in controlling the population and in removing their freedom

 

[Camp]

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

You are such a jerk. I quoted Wolfgang Shivilbusch. The quote is in parenthesis and followed by his name, clearly a quote. Furthermore, Shivelbusch was referring to the pre-war era of the 1930's.
As far as the constitution goes, the US Constitution stayed in force during FDR. He passed legislation that challenged it, but he always followed the rulings of the court when they passed judgment. You can not name a single time FDR did not adhere to the rulings of SCOTUS.

Shivelbush said, "to compare is not to equate". You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps in the US and Hitler's concentration camps. In fact, it kind of sucks that you compare the injustices done to Japanese in America after Pearl Harbor with what happened to the Jews after Hitler came to power. There is barely a comparison. The Jews prayed to get treatment like the Japanese interned in the US. You should be ashamed of constantly demanding that Japanese Americans suffered the way European Jew's suffered and persistently try to equate American Japanese camps with Nazi death camps.

Before the Holocaust ramped up...Jews were stripped of rights and herded into.ghettos and camps like the Japanese were. It's a similar idea....no fdr wasn't going to put japs in ovens or toxic showers or even kill them with shooting squads....but the internment program was very Nazi like in controlling the population and in removing their freedom

It was not a similar idea. The Japanese were removed from the west coast because of fears regarding espionage and sabotage, with unfair promotion from west coast business interest who profited from the seizure of Japanese property.
There is no argument that the Japanese internment camps were and are black marks in American history, but they surely do not compare to Hitler's camps in their purpose or function.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

You are such a jerk. I quoted Wolfgang Shivilbusch. The quote is in parenthesis and followed by his name, clearly a quote. Furthermore, Shivelbusch was referring to the pre-war era of the 1930's.
As far as the constitution goes, the US Constitution stayed in force during FDR. He passed legislation that challenged it, but he always followed the rulings of the court when they passed judgment. You can not name a single time FDR did not adhere to the rulings of SCOTUS.

Shivelbush said, "to compare is not to equate". You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps in the US and Hitler's concentration camps. In fact, it kind of sucks that you compare the injustices done to Japanese in America after Pearl Harbor with what happened to the Jews after Hitler came to power. There is barely a comparison. The Jews prayed to get treatment like the Japanese interned in the US. You should be ashamed of constantly demanding that Japanese Americans suffered the way European Jew's suffered and persistently try to equate American Japanese camps with Nazi death camps.

Before the Holocaust ramped up...Jews were stripped of rights and herded into.ghettos and camps like the Japanese were. It's a similar idea....no fdr wasn't going to put japs in ovens or toxic showers or even kill them with shooting squads....but the internment program was very Nazi like in controlling the population and in removing their freedom

It was not a similar idea. The Japanese were removed from the west coast because of fears regarding espionage and sabotage, with unfair promotion from west coast business interest who profited from the seizure of Japanese property.
There is no argument that the Japanese internment camps were and are black marks in American history, but they surely do not compare to Hitler's camps in their purpose or function.

They were made.scapegoats like the jews...they had propert uh seized like the jews...they were put in camps like the jews...it was a very fascist thing to do and continues to prove my point, progressivism is the ideology of not only communism, but fascism.

 

[Syriusly]

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Did you really say "there were no concentration camps," you shameless fucking liar?

"the constitution remained in force"? You have allowed your obsessive idol-worship to strip you of all self-respect. What a disgrace.

You are such a jerk. I quoted Wolfgang Shivilbusch. The quote is in parenthesis and followed by his name, clearly a quote. Furthermore, Shivelbusch was referring to the pre-war era of the 1930's.
As far as the constitution goes, the US Constitution stayed in force during FDR. He passed legislation that challenged it, but he always followed the rulings of the court when they passed judgment. You can not name a single time FDR did not adhere to the rulings of SCOTUS.

Shivelbush said, "to compare is not to equate". You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps in the US and Hitler's concentration camps. In fact, it kind of sucks that you compare the injustices done to Japanese in America after Pearl Harbor with what happened to the Jews after Hitler came to power. There is barely a comparison. The Jews prayed to get treatment like the Japanese interned in the US. You should be ashamed of constantly demanding that Japanese Americans suffered the way European Jew's suffered and persistently try to equate American Japanese camps with Nazi death camps.

Before the Holocaust ramped up...Jews were stripped of rights and herded into.ghettos and camps like the Japanese were. It's a similar idea....no fdr wasn't going to put japs in ovens or toxic showers or even kill them with shooting squads....but the internment program was very Nazi like in controlling the population and in removing their freedom

It was not a similar idea. The Japanese were removed from the west coast because of fears regarding espionage and sabotage, with unfair promotion from west coast business interest who profited from the seizure of Japanese property.
There is no argument that the Japanese internment camps were and are black marks in American history, but they surely do not compare to Hitler's camps in their purpose or function.

They were made.scapegoats like the jews...they had propert uh seized like the jews...they were put in camps like the jews...it was a very fascist thing to do and continues to prove my point, progressivism is the ideology of not only communism, but fascism.

So you are saying that Americans in World War 2 were fascists?

That our 'Greatest Generation'- who defeated the Fascists in Europe and Japan were just fascists to you.

Why am I not surprised.

That you see no difference between the evil the United States did with Japanese American internment- and what Germany did with the genocide of a people because of their religion just shows how twisted your world view is.

 

[Syriusly]

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

The thread is about you attempting to compare FDR to totalitarian dictators because during that time period in history governments were experimenting with ways to shape and create economies and systems that would solve the difficulties of the Great Depression and install systems that would prevent such occurrences from happening again. The comparisons are easy to make, but you, as the right wing always does on this topic, leave out the tenets of the European fascist that FDR and America rejected.

Of course, those dictators liked to compare and highlight the similarities being adapted in the US. It was good propaganda. It gave the appearance that America was endorsing the dictators. FDR did not mind pointing out some of those similarities that could work in the US. He made it clear he would try anything that might solve the problems of the day including the adoption of socialist programs that were compatible with free market capitalism and which still exist in America 80 years after they were adopted.

Your link that leads to a review of the work of Wolfgang Shivelbush explains the points you omit that clearly show the difference between what was going on in America and what was going on in Italy and Germany.

"To compare is not the same as to equate. America during Roosevelt's New Deal did not become a one-party state; it had no secret police; the constitution remained in force; there were no concentration camps; the New Deal preserved the liberal-democratic systems that National Socialism abolished." Wolfgang Shivelbusch

America did not adopt the horrors and corruption of the fascist states in Europe.

Thank you for agreeing with me.....Outside the holocaust (that some in the democrat party would like now......say Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton), you guys were on par with the facists.......sorry the Holocaust doesn't save you.

You're reaching so far for a conclusion you fell out of your chair...

Sorry Moon, go back to Arkansas and suck on Slick Willy's dick.

Please stop sharing your sexual fantasies with us.

Its bad enough that you share your history fantasies.

 

[Syriusly]

Sorry the new deal.was facist, even Der fuhrer liked it
Hitler, Mussolini, Roosevelt

FDR was closer to hitler and the rest of the progressives and Robert a taft was (aka conservative)


Obamacare is facist....Obama enlisted insurance companies into.this scheme.

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

Right Wing Nut Jobs still are pissed off that Franklin D Roosevelt
a) Was immensely popular as President
b) Continues to be immensely popular- always in the top 3 of American Presidents in history
c) Led America to defeat Fascist Germany and Italy, and Imperial Japan
d) Led America out of the Great Depression
e) Brought Social Security to Americans
f) Brought the GI Bill to Americans
g) Brought bank depositors insurance to Americans

Conservatives despise FDR for his successes- and for being a beloved liberal

So they attack him.

 

[Unkotare]

...You should pay attention to that quote when it comes to Japanese internment camps [sic] in the US ......

"Concentration camps" are what fdr called them, and what IN FACT they were.

 

[buckeye45_73]

LOL of course everyone you don't agree with is a fascist.

Typical lying right wing nut job.

Still pissed off that Roosevelt led America to victory over the fascists that Conservative Americans supported

Still pissed off that Roosevelt brought Americans:
Social Security
The GI Bill
Bank Depositors Insurance

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

Right Wing Nut Jobs still are pissed off that Franklin D Roosevelt
a) Was immensely popular as President
b) Continues to be immensely popular- always in the top 3 of American Presidents in history
c) Led America to defeat Fascist Germany and Italy, and Imperial Japan
d) Led America out of the Great Depression
e) Brought Social Security to Americans
f) Brought the GI Bill to Americans
g) Brought bank depositors insurance to Americans

Conservatives despise FDR for his successes- and for being a beloved liberal

So they attack him.

And a fascist.......you guys don't like the truth exposed just as we are doing with wilson......truth will come out

 

[Syriusly]

Those are facist programs...especially the insurance......Obamacare is facist....we don't like government period. It also needs to.stay out of business.......but it doesnt...a facist trait! Progressivism for everyone.
But again the new deal was facist and approved by the icons of facism......but ole el.duche seal.of approval!

Of course you hate everything FDR accomplished- from leading America to victory over the fascists to caring about American GI's with the GI Bill

Which of course is why FDR is amazingly popular with American voters- but despised by right wing nut jobs like you.

The thread was about his facism......not his popularity...start a new thread for it....I'll join in

FDR's popularity and historical ranking has to hurt, and I can understand why. FDR is the most talked about president on these boards. Republicans could mention Lincoln as a great president, but for some reason would rather talk about FDR and I can't blame them; FDR elected four times in a row and ranked as America's best president is hard to beat.
Not to worry, if the Republican party survives Trump, maybe someday an FDR will show up in their party.

Right Wing Nut Jobs still are pissed off that Franklin D Roosevelt
a) Was immensely popular as President
b) Continues to be immensely popular- always in the top 3 of American Presidents in history
c) Led America to defeat Fascist Germany and Italy, and Imperial Japan
d) Led America out of the Great Depression
e) Brought Social Security to Americans
f) Brought the GI Bill to Americans
g) Brought bank depositors insurance to Americans

Conservatives despise FDR for his successes- and for being a beloved liberal

So they attack him.

And a fascist.......you guys don't like the truth exposed just as we are doing with wilson......truth will come out

A 'fascist' in the same line as you would consider every President in American history


Right Wing Nut Jobs still are pissed off that Franklin D Roosevelt
a) Was immensely popular as President
b) Continues to be immensely popular- always in the top 3 of American Presidents in history
c) Led America to defeat Fascist Germany and Italy, and Imperial Japan
d) Led America out of the Great Depression
e) Brought Social Security to Americans
f) Brought the GI Bill to Americans
g) Brought bank depositors insurance to Americans

Conservatives despise FDR for his successes- and for being a beloved liberal

So they attack him.