Failed by US Healthcare

[Mindful]

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You are right. He should do what American Rich people do. "I got mine, Fuck You!"

How dare he insist that average working folks have access to the same medicare care he does!

Calm down, dear.

 

[JoeB131]

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You are right. He should do what American Rich people do. "I got mine, Fuck You!"

How dare he insist that average working folks have access to the same medicare care he does!

Calm down, dear.

Yes, I should be totally calm about poor children suffering treatable diseases because they are poor. That's what Jesus would have wanted.

Conservatism, at the end of the day, is an argument for selfishness.

 

[Mindful]

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You are right. He should do what American Rich people do. "I got mine, Fuck You!"

How dare he insist that average working folks have access to the same medicare care he does!

Calm down, dear.

Yes, I should be totally calm about poor children suffering treatable diseases because they are poor. That's what Jesus would have wanted.

Conservatism, at the end of the day, is an argument for selfishness.

Have you been to church today?

 

[JoeB131]

Have you been to church today?

Nope, I have better things to do than pray to an imaginary sky pixie.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Mindfully retweeted a nationalistic pap smear with aplomb, Joe considers whether he's been matronized..

 

[Mindful]

Mindfully retweeted a nationalistic pap smear with aplomb, Joe considers whether he's been matronized..

I'm not an American. It was just a comment.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Indeed, a Mindful one no less.

 

[Mindful]

Indeed, a Mindful one no less.

You trying to be existential?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Indeed, a Mindful one no less.

You trying to be existential?

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[CarlinAnnArbor]

In the developed world this young man would just have to focus on getting well.

You're admitting the UK is no longer part of the developing world?

NHS operation waiting lists reach 10-year high at 4.3m patients

That's 4.3 MILLION in a place of 66 million!

 

[Grumblenuts]

Being on a waiting list would still beat having unaffordable healthcare any day.
As an American living in the UK, here are 5 ways Britain's National Health Service is superior to US healthcare

 

[Mindful]

Being on a waiting list would still beat having unaffordable healthcare any day.
As an American living in the UK, here are 5 ways Britain's National Health Service is superior to US healthcare

The thing is: some treatments are just not available in the UK.

And desperate people raise the money to go to the US for the appropriate medical procedures.

 

[sparky]

Medical tourism occurs for many reasons Mindful

~S~

 

[Mindful]

Medical tourism occurs for many reasons Mindful

~S~

Not for those Brits it doesn't. Usually a rare condition that only one or two American doctors will undertake.

Medical tourism rocks in Germany where I live. Wealthy Kuwaities coming over for surgery. Where there's a wealth of doctors on hand.

 

[Mindful]

The NHS, for all it's noble aspirations, is financially unsustainable. The emergency room, for instance; people go in there when there's nothing really wrong with them. For instance, brawling drunk Brits on a Saturday night up and down the country.

The $20 co pay just to see the doctor in America, makes me think twice about whether I really need to go.

 

[Grumblenuts]

What conditions and treatments aren't covered on the NHS – and how much do they cost?

 

[Mindful]

What conditions and treatments aren't covered on the NHS – and how much do they cost?

It's not really about that. I was talking about really rare conditions, that the US is able to treat.

And the waiting lists. Many Britons, who are not wealthy by any means, pay for themselves to get hip replacement surgery in India, it can take up to a year for one in England.

 

[JoeB131]

The NHS, for all it's noble aspirations, is financially unsustainable. The emergency room, for instance; people go in there when there's nothing really wrong with them. For instance, brawling drunk Brits on a Saturday night up and down the country.

The $20 co pay just to see the doctor in America, makes me think twice about whether I really need to go.

And if you are so poor that $20.00 makes you delay until the condition gets a lot worse?

 

[Mindful]

The NHS, for all it's noble aspirations, is financially unsustainable. The emergency room, for instance; people go in there when there's nothing really wrong with them. For instance, brawling drunk Brits on a Saturday night up and down the country.

The $20 co pay just to see the doctor in America, makes me think twice about whether I really need to go.

And if you are so poor that $20.00 makes you delay until the condition gets a lot worse?

I don't know.

Make some chicken soup?

Could I get food stamps for a chicken?

 

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In the developed world this young man would just have to focus on getting well.

Given, how in practice the US government (likely state and federal, though I haven't taken the time to do a meticulous case of their accounting) actually spends taxpayer money, and the fact that people already using service funded in whole or part by taxpayer money (false "public/private" dichotomies be damned), at this point I would have no problem with publicly funded heathcare plans.

Most negative reactions, as per above are just purely emotional reactions, or general resistances to change, and not worthy of serious or rational consideration, by individuals not comfortable with going full "anarchist" and disbanding the services they are already depending on, or even outright advocating government spending in certain areas (Constitutional or philosophical arguments be damned) but not in others, solely for childish or emotional reasons which are laughable at best).

(As far as serious constitutional arguments, in theory it would probably be first in the domain of the individual states, rather than the Federal government, unless the Constitution is amended, however in practice, in regards to how money is actually and currently being spent, the above still applies).