Federal entire catastrophic, and subsidized medical preventative and screening insurance.

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    Federal entire catastrophic, and subsidized medical preventative and screening insurance.

    I consider myself to be a populist, but I don't object to those considering me to be a liberal proponent. I am not an advocate of socialized medicine, but there are some functions that government regulation and government or quasi-government entities perform in a superior manner.

    I'm a proponent of federal subsidy for explicitly listed and describe medical screening and preventative procedures, and entire funding of individuals' entitlements to catastrophic medical insurance. Otherwise, how can medical insurers and service providers be held financially and criminally responsible for failing to proactively offer such procedures to their clients and patients?
    Too often catastrophic medical and financial consequences were due to the patient not receiving medical screening and preventative procedures when their medical conditions clearly indicated that they were reasonable candidates for such procedures.

    Respectfully, Supposn

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    I'm a conservative who moved to a liberal city, and I was surprised to see my views change on several issues

    “I vehemently opposed Obamacare, but now I want socialized medicine.

    There is perhaps no other single issue I have had such a hard 180-degree turn on than healthcare. As a conservative, I vehemently opposed Obamacare and saw it as a slippery slope to a single-payer healthcare system - in other words, socialized medicine. But now I live in California and, self-employed. … the cheapest possible plan is about $500 per month - plus another $40 for dental coverage. That's $6,480 per year just for health insurance, which doesn't include copays ($75 per visit because the premium is so cheap) and medication. I know California isn't the most expensive in the country, … I have a new opinion about universal healthcare: Bring it on - the sooner the better. Thirty-year-old Dave would not even recognize me”.
     
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    Does that include the 22 million illegals here?
     
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    Every time someone brings up universal healthcare I always get a bit of a giggle from it.
    They always claim they want it but never talk about the cost in money and lost quality of care.
    First let's look at cost. 3.2 Trillion a year is a low estimate. That is the amount of federal tax returns in 2016. We run a deficit each and every year. So are you ok to increase your federal taxes to double what you now pay? Actually I myself believe that even that will probably be too low. That does not include state and local taxes.

    Medical examiners can tell if someone had dental or medical work done in the U.S. or another country just by the type of hardware used.
    A large number of countries are experiencing a need to ration healthcare now because so many of their population is retiring. England for instance has only certain hospitals that will accept seniors.
    There would be no more private or semi-private rooms.
    We could be like most countries which have universal healthcare, a six month or longer wait to see a specialist a year or longer wait for non life threatening surgery.

    Given all that are you still that exited with universal healthcare?
     
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    I used to buy one size fits all clothing. Now, nothing fits. Same with universal health care.
     
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    Maxdeath, federal entire catastrophic, subsidized medical preventative and screening insurance is not comprehensive medical insurance but rather something that would be of value to our current and whatever will be our future policies regarding medical insurance and practices. Respectfully, Supposn
     
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    I am pro enforcing the ACA with Bidens Plan.
     
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    What makes it better than the others? Cheaper, more coverage, better coverage?
     
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    If it's really a good plan, why would it need to be "enforced"?
     
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    My question still remains. Are you willing to accept higher federal taxes or are you advoctating higher federal debt? How do you or others believe that hospitals will be affected?

    Under universal healthcare numbers of hospitals and doctors will be forced to close.
     
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    You do realize that as insurance costs rise more people become uninsured? The number of uninsured has recently risen.
     

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