FACT:Before capitalism life expectancy was 24 years,after capitalism 66 years

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    Before capitalism from the year 1000 to 1820 the world economy grew 600%
    After introduction of capitalism from 1820 to 1998 the world economy grew 5,000%.
    In regions like Europe,USA,Canada,Australia and New Zealand 19,000%.

    Per capita income growth is not the only indicator of welfare.
    Over the long run, there has been a dramatic increase in life expectation.
    In the year 1000, the average infant could expect to live about 24 years.
    A third would die in the first year of life, hunger and epidemic disease would ravage the survivors.
    There was an almost imperceptible rise up to 1820, mainly in Western Europe. Most of the improvement has occurred since then.
    Now the average infant can expect to survive 66 years.
    The World Economy

    So in the interest of honest discussion those of you who hate us "greedy" capitalists that KNOW factually that a rising tide raises all the boats, that know that the fact people are living nearly 3 times longer then before capitalism.. show me your stellar examples where economic freedom and capitalism has been bested!

    Prove to me that there is a better way of increasing standards of living and thereby life spans!
     
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    Well, Germany, Japan, and France, among many other industrial nations have mixed their health care system so that they are hybrid capitalist-socialist system. And they all have much better health stats than we do. Including life span.
     
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    FACTS are in 1890 there was 4,000 millionaires in the USA.
    in 2010 there were 5,220,000 millionaires.
    15 nations with highest number of millionaires - Rediff.com Business

    Over 130,400% increase in millionaires in 120 years..

    For those of you who say.. "a $1 million in 1890 was worth more then a $1 million today.."

    Inflation over 120 years $1 million in would buy in 1890 what $28 million buys in 2010 or 28 times.

    So which is bigger.. 130,400% the growth in millionaires or 2,700% inflation in the dollar???

    REALITY folks because the pie is BIGGER!
     
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    Lets all have a halleluah moment for all the millionaires.

    I will then take a bow.
     
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    But there are still over 750,000 American families going bankrupt every year because of medical bills. And we still have an infant mortality rate like a third world nation.

    Hoorah for the millionaires hardly addresses the issues with the health care in this nation.
     
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    Ohh come on now Old Rocks, we must worship the millionaires becuase they have all the money and we want to be just like them.
     
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    Louis Pasteur's germ theory of disease is responsible for the dramatic increase in our lifespans and the socialist idiot just gave it away to the world.
     
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    Imagine what the life span would be if:

    • Our population did not have such a high obesity/heart disease rate
    • Our culture put more emphasis on personal health than on the Kardashians
    • All Americans had easy access to regular preventive medicine
    • All Americans had easy access to regular diagnostic medicine and early detection

    Asking too much, I know.

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    Your comment has NO bearing first of all on the thread that life spans increased 3 fold due to a higher economic standard after 1820... thats a fact.

    As far as your worn out OLD cliche of "better health stats"???
    A) for the most part those countries are made up of homogeneous population i.e. their
    stats are more reliable therefore. In the USA though with illegal immigration the birth
    rates of legal citizens is co-mingled with demographics THAT have a higher infant mortality
    and this is FACT borne out by the experts when they hear that cliched statement.

    B) Where would you want to go if you had a life threatening event?
    This web site ranks hospital care world wide: World Hospitals' ranking on the Web: World Ranking
    In the top 20 world wide hospitals..
    1) 17 are in the USA
    2) 13 USA hospitals are the top 13 hospitals in the world.
    3) France has ONE (1).. Germany /Japan NONE in the top 20 hospitals.
    4) Japan first entry is # 37 !
    5) Germany's first is #45!
    In the top 50 of world hospitals
    1) 30 are in the USA!


    So where in the world would the chances of being in the top 50 hospitals be best?

    But again rely on those OLD cliches about health care being the finest in nationalized health care countries... Just another false narrative continued as an effort to detract from the FACTS the USA has the BEST health system in the world!
    READ the above web site and get enlightened!
     
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    Cities and nations finally realizing that poor sanitation and food safety led to the multitude of diseases instituted sanitation projects and eventually vaccination campaigns to halt and in many cases eliminate communicable disease from their lands. Socialism is responsible for our increased lifespans, if it was up to capitalists your kids would still be in danger of polio every summer and you would have smallpox scars all over your face.
     

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