Eye Of The ZOMBIE.....XP STILL ROCKING ON!

[iamwhatiseem]

MS screwed Windows to create a cross platform system but it is unsuccessful in the mobile sector and all the efforts are in vain. If I had a say there I would make a new Windows without harassment and unnecessary stuff, leaving advanced stuff to third party developers.

Windows wants data-mining revenue and they are going in that direction (obviously)
The amount of data that Cortana send to Microsoft is for some reason, and that reason has most certainly to do with $$. Before Ringel05 turned me on to the fix he found - my Cortana was sending 10MB or more on each start up. It is still eating 20-50MB of RAM...but the network data has been 0MB ever since. Undoubtedly something Microsoft will "fix" in an upcoming update.
They turned their OS into a datamining machine of users everywhere. Nothing could convince me this is not for monetary reasons.

 

[Bleipriester]

MS screwed Windows to create a cross platform system but it is unsuccessful in the mobile sector and all the efforts are in vain. If I had a say there I would make a new Windows without harassment and unnecessary stuff, leaving advanced stuff to third party developers.

Windows wants data-mining revenue and they are going in that direction (obviously)
The amount of data that Cortana send to Microsoft is for some reason, and that reason has most certainly to do with $$. Before Ringel05 turned me on to the fix he found - my Cortana was sending 10MB or more on each start up. It is still eating 20-50MB of RAM...but the network data has been 0MB ever since. Undoubtedly something Microsoft will "fix" in an upcoming update.
They turned their OS into a datamining machine of users everywhere. Nothing could convince me this is not for monetary reasons.

True. Big trend nowadays. On the other hand, it is useless to complain while holding a smartphone in hands.

Let me remember you of this thread:
Privacy: Stay away from Windows 10

 

[Tom Horn]

MS hasn't totally abandoned us XP users. I have been getting their malicious software removal tool updates right along including 3 yesterday which was an odd number....if I wanted to use IE to see what updates they did I could but I won't use it again. I have a feeling they sneaked another patch or two in including an Adobe Flash fix. I have a Dell Latitude D630 laptop with W7 on it I picked up on Amazon for $130 6 months ago and am learning my way around 7. Nice little unit...looks brand new from Tampa Laptops. I may have to use it to see my games on MLB TV since they've changed their streams to accommodate phone apps. Who'd want to watch a ballgame on a smart phone I don't know but I guess many do.

 

[Tom Horn]

Hey, whatever floats your boat, was simply trying to help, obviously you think trojans are the only threat out there...... Good luck, hopefully your computer isn't already a bot right now.

The only time I know of being used as a bot was back in 2002 when my home page was mysteriously changed to a kiddie-porn address. I was new to W98 and discovered what had happened by accident. Thank God some law enforcement agency didn't nail me to the barn wall for being a pervert. Another time I really got hit and couldn't even get online....MS dial-up wouldn't allow me back until I cleaned it up....the bug locked Norton out, defeated Malwarebytes after a lengthy struggle that killed parts of it, and wouldn't allow me to get into Safe-Mode to do a system restore. That one resulted in a hard drive wipe that woke me up to the reality of internet dirtbags.

 

[Ringel05]

Hey, whatever floats your boat, was simply trying to help, obviously you think trojans are the only threat out there...... Good luck, hopefully your computer isn't already a bot right now.

The only time I know of being used as a bot was back in 2002 when my home page was mysteriously changed to a kiddie-porn address. I was new to W98 and discovered what had happened by accident. Thank God some law enforcement agency didn't nail me to the barn wall for being a pervert. Another time I really got hit and couldn't even get online....MS dial-up wouldn't allow me back until I cleaned it up....the bug locked Norton out, defeated Malwarebytes after a lengthy struggle that killed parts of it, and wouldn't allow me to get into Safe-Mode to do a system restore. That one resulted in a hard drive wipe that woke me up to the reality of internet dirtbags.

Once a year at minimum I wipe my hard drives and reinstall whatever OS I'm using. Of course I'm fairly good at putting my personal stuff on an external drive, DVD or thumb drive so that's not a concern if the HDD goes bad of it gets infected/hijacked.
With this laptop I'm on now I've been playing with it over the last month, had originally downgraded it from 8.1 to 7 a year ago when I bought it, not long ago allowed it to upgrade to 10 because the Win 7 wifi drivers didn't work properly on the Win 8 machine. Win 10 seemed to work okay at first then starting having problems so I reloaded Win 7, musta use the wrong disc cause it wouldn't authenticate. Got pissed at that (one of M$'s biggest fuck-ups) and loaded Linux Ubuntu on it. Tried a couple of different Linux distros till settling on Ubuntu.
To make a long story short, I went back and forth between Ubuntu and Windows, even let it upgrade to 10 again till one day I turned it on and could not get online after one of their mandatory updates. Now I'm running Ubuntu and unless something changes drastically with Windows this is where I'll stay.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

 

[Bleipriester]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

Really? Isn´t Google supporting XP anymore? I tried Firefox 42 x64 on XP x64 but it says it requires Windows 7. Cyberfox requires Vista. I also have Waterfox 15, the last 64 Bit Firefox working on XP x64.
Normally, XP doesn´t require any form of support and programs just run.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

Really? Isn´t Google supporting XP anymore? I tried Firefox 42 x64 on XP x64 but it says it requires Windows 7. Cyberfox requires Vista. I also have Waterfox 15, the last 64 Bit Firefox working on XP x64.
Normally, XP doesn´t require any form of support and programs just run.

Chrome stopped supporting it's browser on XP at least a month ago.

 

[Tom Horn]

Firefox has upgraded for me recently with XP32....the adblocker is an important feature on a site called "couchtuner". I'm more concerned about Norton because if I don't have a proper AVS I won't get or send mail. I tried Chrome when I first gave up on IE but it seemed awkward and overbearing. Maybe it's because they've tried to be my browser when I updated Adobe Flash; you have to make sure to uncheck that little box before the download begins.

 

[Bleipriester]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

Really? Isn´t Google supporting XP anymore? I tried Firefox 42 x64 on XP x64 but it says it requires Windows 7. Cyberfox requires Vista. I also have Waterfox 15, the last 64 Bit Firefox working on XP x64.
Normally, XP doesn´t require any form of support and programs just run.

Chrome stopped supporting it's browser on XP at least a month ago.

OK. Chrome 49 still supports XP & Vista. 50 doesn´t.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

Really? Isn´t Google supporting XP anymore? I tried Firefox 42 x64 on XP x64 but it says it requires Windows 7. Cyberfox requires Vista. I also have Waterfox 15, the last 64 Bit Firefox working on XP x64.
Normally, XP doesn´t require any form of support and programs just run.

Chrome stopped supporting it's browser on XP at least a month ago.

OK. Chrome 49 still supports XP & Vista. 50 doesn´t.

All I know is the Chrome I have everytime I launch it it says "Chrome no longer supports this browser running on XP..."

 

[Tom Horn]

A XP quirk I just discovered after all these years is that if a stream is taking a long time to (DSL) download, I can speed it up by opening the task manager on the "performance" tab. I don't do anything, just let it sit there. It seems when I do the CPU usage dives and the program completes. Anybody know what's happening, if anything, with that?

 

[Bleipriester]

The end of XP will happen when Firefox stops updating it. It is the only browser left that still updates.
When that happens...websites stop working fast.

Really? Isn´t Google supporting XP anymore? I tried Firefox 42 x64 on XP x64 but it says it requires Windows 7. Cyberfox requires Vista. I also have Waterfox 15, the last 64 Bit Firefox working on XP x64.
Normally, XP doesn´t require any form of support and programs just run.

Chrome stopped supporting it's browser on XP at least a month ago.

OK. Chrome 49 still supports XP & Vista. 50 doesn´t.

All I know is the Chrome I have everytime I launch it it says "Chrome no longer supports this browser running on XP..."

I just downloaded Chrome 49 and it is 50!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I give XP another year at most before it is completely abandoned like Win 98 / 2000.
At that point it will only be useful for non-internet uses like playing old games.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Windows XP Is Still a Favorite Among Hackers

Psst..... Using Firefox or Chrome won't help, that's not where the XP vulnerabilities are........

Bah.....it's exactly where the vulnerabilities are. I don't know if you've used FireFox but when it finds a counterfeit page it red flags you....proceed at your peril. I used IE for years and was hit numerous times on sites you wouldn't suspect. Since Mozilla entered the picture, I don't even get the POP's anymore. Most of the "vulnerabilities" claims are MS propaganda.

Nonsense.

The issue is zero ring. XP is built on the OS/2 (NT) kernal. One of the goals of the system was to create a polymorphic OS that could be deployed across a wide variety of devices. I don't mean computers, I mean everything from copying machines to sprinkler systems, to lathes and mills. The power of the OS was the ability to rewrite the core functions as needed. This wasn't a flaw, it was the point. But anyone with the skill could rewrite the core functions, which means virus writers and other bad guys. XP and any NT core machine will always be vulnerable to that sort of attack.

Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft moved to the Longhorn kernal. It has a locked zero ring. It cannot be highjacked, nor can it be customized the way OS/2 could be.

The web browser had nothing to do with the vulnerability of XP, it was the kernal.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Windows XP Is Still a Favorite Among Hackers

Psst..... Using Firefox or Chrome won't help, that's not where the XP vulnerabilities are........

Bah.....it's exactly where the vulnerabilities are. I don't know if you've used FireFox but when it finds a counterfeit page it red flags you....proceed at your peril. I used IE for years and was hit numerous times on sites you wouldn't suspect. Since Mozilla entered the picture, I don't even get the POP's anymore. Most of the "vulnerabilities" claims are MS propaganda.

Nonsense.

The issue is zero ring. XP is built on the OS/2 (NT) kernal. One of the goals of the system was to create a polymorphic OS that could be deployed across a wide variety of devices. I don't mean computers, I mean everything from copying machines to sprinkler systems, to lathes and mills. The power of the OS was the ability to rewrite the core functions as needed. This wasn't a flaw, it was the point. But anyone with the skill could rewrite the core functions, which means virus writers and other bad guys. XP and any NT core machine will always be vulnerable to that sort of attack.

Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft moved to the Longhorn kernal. It has a locked zero ring. It cannot be highjacked, nor can it be customized the way OS/2 could be.

The web browser had nothing to do with the vulnerability of XP, it was the kernal.

Pheh...Linux does that better because the kernel itself can be morphed to fit a particular purpose..which also means the OS can be as tiny and therefore specific as you want it to be.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I give XP another year at most before it is completely abandoned like Win 98 / 2000.
At that point it will only be useful for non-internet uses like playing old games.

There are a million non-desktop devices running XP. The controller for curing ovens in my shop will be XP until it needs to be replaced. The Xerox copiers throughout the plant will run XP until they are replaced. People have no idea how many embedded controllers run Windows XP.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Pheh...Linux does that better because the kernel itself can be morphed to fit a particular purpose..which also means the OS can be as tiny and therefore specific as you want it to be.

Linux is definitely what is replacing XP in embedded controllers.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Pheh...Linux does that better because the kernel itself can be morphed to fit a particular purpose..which also means the OS can be as tiny and therefore specific as you want it to be.

Linux is definitely what is replacing XP in embedded controllers.

Ans should be, and I don't mean that in a "anti-Microsoft" way.
The Linux kernel is superior to MS's in this sense...simply because it is open, and therefore can be reduced/morphed in whatever way you need it.
This is also why the best boot loaders and boot repair tools are Linux...they are tiny Linux OS's that exist only for that purpose.

 

[Tom Horn]

Nonsense.

The issue is zero ring. XP is built on the OS/2 (NT) kernal. One of the goals of the system was to create a polymorphic OS that could be deployed across a wide variety of devices. I don't mean computers, I mean everything from copying machines to sprinkler systems, to lathes and mills. The power of the OS was the ability to rewrite the core functions as needed. This wasn't a flaw, it was the point. But anyone with the skill could rewrite the core functions, which means virus writers and other bad guys. XP and any NT core machine will always be vulnerable to that sort of attack.

Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft moved to the Longhorn kernal. It has a locked zero ring. It cannot be highjacked, nor can it be customized the way OS/2 could be.

The web browser had nothing to do with the vulnerability of XP, it was the kernal.

"nonsense"? If an XP user stopped going online how would they be hacked? The browser is the whole enchalada, not some zero-ring NONSENSE.