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the science on this is pretty clear. i don't think it requires hysteria, but it does require intelligent response.
That's the problem Jillian, the science does NOT back them up one iota. Everytime they try to blame AGW for a particular event I can go back into the historical record and quite easily find an analog. There currently is no empirical data to support their theory. Instead of using actual records they use computer models that are so poor they can't recreate the weather of 5 days ago with perfect data recording. That is a huge problem. And as stated previously the records they do use have been corrupted. Hansen has been caught repeatedly going back into the historical record and altering the temperature data from over 50 years ago to try and get the US's temp record to conform to the false record he is building.
I agree that there are terrible environmental issues out there, but AGW is not one of them.
Ummm.... No. The science is solid and has been around for decades. They didn't wait for the symptom then assign the cause. They predicted this decades ago. Pretty much everything they've predicted would happen, is happening.
The sad thing is that deniers have even been elevated to the point of being considered worthy of addressing, when they should be acknowledged as the intellectual equivalent of a moon-landing denier.
Provide us with empirical data to support your POV. Not a computer model study, but hard empirical data. How else do you explain the extreme weather that has occured in the past? According to your paradigm that is a product of only AGW. If it happened in the past devoid of mans influence then you must first eliminate all natural causes. That is science and that is the scientific method. Science is based on observation, not coming up wih a theory and then only paying attention to those facts that support your theory.
Also science is not based on computer models. I can generate a computer model that will say anything I want it to. Hard data on the other hand is far more compelling, which is why Hansen and his ilk have been going back and altering the historical data record to try and make the American temp record (one of the most accurate and widespread in the world) conform to the worldwide temp record they are manufacturing.