Exposing Homicidal Political Instincts

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.

The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.

I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.

On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.

If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.

The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.

In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?

Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?

What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?

On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?


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[alang1216]

1.Why would society care if dishonesty, lying, and corruption were the ‘coin of the realm’? Would you care if folks cheated in that poker game, or if the business lied about the car they were selling you, or pharmaceutical companies fibbed on what was in the product, or whether they knew it was dangerous?

Would you care?

Well, demonstrably, you don’t care, not if you vote for Democrats.

This is hilarious. Trump can't open his mouth without a lie coming out and his team has racked up 137 illegal actions and 7 guilty pleas (not sure of the exact numbers). Trump was elected by people who knew he was a liar (ask Ted Cruz' grandfather, the man who killed JFK). If you're looking for people who don't care about the truth, check the nearest mirror.

'Lie'????

Did you, a noted liar claim the other side lies???


Be advised.....there has never been a more prodigious liar in the presidency than the Muslim President who just left office. You cannot find anything near what Obama did.....
.....let's prove it together.






1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

“Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices” Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices - American Energy Alliance



Could his lies about drilling have anything to do with this???

“Obama's OMB ignores document subpoena; Upton/Stearns House panel says Monday morning or else…The subpoena is for thousands of documents requested months ago by the committee's Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations concerning OMB's evaluation of a Department of Energy economic stimulus program loan guarantee worth $535 million for Solyndra, Inc.,…” http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/bel...ocument-subpoena-uptonstearns-house-panel-say






2. Obama…a supporter of infanticide…which is why he lies to support Planned Parenthood.

“....on abortion, Obama is an extremist. He has opposed the Supreme Court decision that finally upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act against that form of infanticide. Most startlingly, for a professed humanist, Obama – in the Illinois Senate – also voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

I have reported on several of those cases when, before the abortion was completed, an alive infant was suddenly in the room. It was disposed of as a horrified nurse who was not necessarily pro-life followed the doctors’ orders to put the baby in a pail or otherwise get rid of the child.” Infanticide candidate for president




…who has stated that he didn’t want his daughters ‘punished’ with a baby…..told this lie:


You’ve got issues like Planned Parenthood, where that organization provides millions of women cervical-cancer screenings, mammograms, all kinds of basic health care.”— President Obama during an interview on “The Tonight Show,” Oct. 24, 2012

“The president has suggested time and again that Planned Parenthood directly provides mammograms, but the organization only offers referrals and helps women find financial resources for the exams. This suggests an intentional attempt to mislead voters…”
Obama’s ‘Tonight Show’ remark: Planned Parenthood provides mammograms


3. Get this lie:
“’more black men languish in prison in America than attend college.” Obama

"the most frequently quoted statistic about black men in the United States."


4. Lies, damn lies….and Obama lies:

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians




….and….

5. Obama’s claim that Keystone XL oil ‘bypasses the U.S.’ earns Four Pinocchioshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/02/obamas-claim-that-keystone-xl-oil-bypasses-the-u-s-earns-four-pinocchios/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8c2ed3f65ed8




….and….

6. After accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama bombed more countries than any President since WWII

“U.S. Bombed Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia in 2016” The U.S. dropped an average of 3 bombs per hour last year



His whole presidency was a lie by the Left.....and suckers bought it like it was on sale.




7. Is this a lie, of just the sort of thing Liberals do?

The Peace Prize for a man who had a kill list in the Oval Office:

“The Disposition Matrix, informally known as a kill list, is a database of information for tracking, capturing, rendering, or killing suspected enemies of the United States.[1] Developed by the Obama administration beginning in 2010, the "Disposition Matrix" goes beyond existing kill lists and is intended to become a permanent fixture of U.S. policy.[1] The process determining criteria for killing is not public and was heavily shaped by National Counterterrorism Director and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director John O. Brennan.[2]


8. “Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay

The good times may be over for good. In a speech to the Economic Club of New York yesterday, US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the US GDP growth rate, adjusted for inflation, is now projected to run a little above 2% a year.”
Team Obama: Sorry, America, the 'new normal' may be here to stay - AEI


Then, along came Trump….

“U.S. households are back to their free spending ways, with the strength of May’s retail sales figures implying that second-quarter real consumption growth (and GDP growth for that matter) will now be more than 4% annualized.



9. “Obama’s whopper of a claim on tax cuts

“We said working folks deserved a break, so within one month of me taking office, we signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history, putting more money into your pockets.”
— President Obama, Sept. 5, 2011


10. 10. “Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies

…he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.

It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”
Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies



"It is astonishing to see the[Democrat Obama] repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”
And they're still lying!!!



11. Obama called ISIS the JV and then said he didn’t call them the JV…

“Obama said he “wasn’t specifically referring” to ISIS when he made the junior varsity reference during an interview with The New Yorker in January. But the magazine article and a transcript of the interview — which Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler obtained and wrote about earlier this month — shows that Obama was referring to ISIS when he said “if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.”
Obama Fumbles 'JV Team' Question - FactCheck.org

WaPo calls him a liar……again.





12. Here he goes again:
“Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’”

Really???

Then explain this:

“The April 4 attack in Khan Sheikhun, which cost the lives of more than 80 people ….

Defense Secretary James Mattis said Monday the firing of 59 cruise missiles from two U.S. Navy destroyers in the Mediterranean was intended to “show the United States will not passively stand by while [President Bashar] Assad murders innocent people with chemical weapons, which are prohibited by international law and which were declared destroyed.” Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’

13. President Obama: “So let’s start with this fact: For more than a thousand years, people have been drawn to Islam’s message of peace. And the very word itself, ‘Islam,’ comes from ‘salam’ — peace.”

Why did Obama say this? Even Muslim websites acknowledge that “Islam” means “submission” [to Allah], that it comes from the Arabic root “aslama” meaning submission, and that “Islam” is in the command form of that verb.


14. Obama Saying 'Islam has been Woven into the Fabric of our Country Since its Founding'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZIXlIU9vEQ

15. The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression." http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/08/usa-politics-debate-economy-idUSN0749084220081008





16. The Kick-Back to Donors Plan….I mean the Stimulus…

In Barack Obama’s speech to the joint session of Congress, the President emphasized that his new jobs plan had four specific qualities that made it easy to pass this bill immediately, as Obama chanted repeatedly during his speech. His plan would be fully funded, it would not add to the deficit, it would create jobs immediately, and it was chock-full of bipartisan ideas. The Associated Press fact-checked these claims, and found them all false.

17. Obama lied and misled the American people in his description of his relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers as casual and arm's-length:” just a guy in my neighborhood.” His spokesman even claimed he ony knew him because his kids went to school with Ayers’ kids. Now it is clear that the relationship was close, and the evidence is that Ayers actually wrote Obama’s ‘autobiography.’



18. Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress
Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress | Breitbart



19. Do you recall this Obama response at one of the debates: “I think America's greatest moral failure in my lifetime has been that we still don't abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”



Perhaps this is the biggest hypocrisy and the greatest look into his character: “The average American household gives about two percent of adjusted gross income,” …Obama…less than 1%









And he wouldn’t help the ‘least of his own brothers’ out of poverty:

"Barack Obama's half brother, George Onyango Obama, was found living in a 6 by 10 foot slum hut in Huruma estate just outside of Nairobi. According to reports George Obama survives on $12 a year in the slums of Kenya."

Barack's Half Brother: George Obama's Hut Is In The Slums Of Kenya







20. “Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These?
Former president Barack Obama might not have experienced the fallout from a scandal, but that's very different from never having been involved in one.” Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These? | RealClearPolitics

21. Not only do the Leftists like Obama lie to their base with no compunctions….but they laugh at how gullible their voters are:

Charlie Rose and President’s Speechwriters Laugh About ObamaCare Lie ‘If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.’



22. The lies often serve the purpose of appealing to particular constituencies…..here, to Jewish voters:

"The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate
MAY 27, 2008 | 4:21 PM
Barack Obama, at a Memorial Day event in Las Cruces, N.M., credited his great-uncle, Charlie Payne, as being among the U.S. troops who liberated the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz.



The trouble with that bit of history -- as the Republican National Committee pointed out today -- is that the Soviet Red Army was the military force that liberated the World War II death camp."
The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate



23. The lies are often revealed in the actions of the Democrats. While thumping their collective chests about how they feel for black Americans….their actions reveal something altogether different:

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

24. Here is Democrat apparatchik George Stephanopoulos ‘correcting’ Obama’s mention of his Muslim faith…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

His actions throughout his presidency make this an admission more than a gaffe.

The big question about Hussein Obama was always was he Sunni or Shia…and with the Iran deal, we got answer.



25. "My expectation is that if you want to be president, you have to work for everyone, not just for some," Obama said in a taping of the "Late Show" with David Letterman... …the job of the President is to “represent all people.” “If you want to be President, You have to work for everybody, not just for some." https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/09/obama-as-president-you-represent-everyone-most-people-dont-think-theyre-victims-135939



“According to the experts who contributed to the Brookings Institution report, Barack Obama numbers among the most polarizing presidents in American history.” https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/most-polarizing-presidents-including-donald-trump.html/?a=viewall





“A Gallup poll released Wednesday shows that former President Obama's approval ratings are easily the most polarized in modern American history, with Democrats rating him highly and Republicans rating him poorly.

"Throughout his presidency, Barack Obama averaged 83% job approval among Democrats and 13% among Republicans," reports Gallup. "That 70-percentage-point party gap in job approval ratings easily eclipses the prior high — 61 points for George W. Bush.

"All other presidents had party gaps of 55 points or less." http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316024-gallup-obama-approval-ratings-most-polarized-in-us-history



The Democrats wanted to put Hussein Obama on Mt. Rushmore....but they don't have enough room for two more faces.

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26. Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming: “There is no spying on Americans.”

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds

27. “OBAMA SAYS MANUFACTURING JOBS AREN’T COMING BACK – THEN TRUMP SETS RECORD OF JOBS IN ONE MONTH”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EWG6gYlhQ
28. “Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries…. The only problem with his answer was that he was standing in Paris, where a mass shooting conducted by Islamic State terrorists had just taken place, killing over 100 people.”

Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries | Breitbart

“'Children's bodies are everywhere': NINETEEN people are killed in Crimean school massacre after student walks into canteen and opens fire –“ Crimea shooting: NINETEEN people are killed in school massacre | Daily Mail Online



29. “22 Times President Obama Said He Couldn’t Ignore or Create His Own Immigration Law” https://www.speaker.gov/general/22-...dn-t-ignore-or-create-his-own-immigration-law
“How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegal Aliens” How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegals



30. “OBAMA APPEARS WITH, ENDORSES NEVADA CANDIDATE JUST DAYS AFTER EX-WIFE LEVELS ABUSE ALLEGATIONS
· Former President Barack Obama and Nevada Democratic senatorial candidate Jacky Rosen — who tweeted “Believe women” in September — and other Nevada Democrats did not respond when asked to comment on the allegations after they endorsed Sisolak.”

Obama Appears With, Endorses Nevada Candidate Just Days After Ex-Wife Levels Abuse Allegations

31. “Obama, who campaigned on a promise to protect government whistle-blowers, made greater use of the Espionage Act to prosecute leakers and menace journalists than all other presidents combined.

Obama’s Justice Department accessed the personal email of a Fox News reporter and surveilled the reporter’s parents and colleagues. They seized the home, work and mobile phone records of journalists at the Associated Press.

White House officials subverted the press in a number of ways while touting themselves as the most transparent in history.” Trump Wages War on the Press, but Was Obama Much Better to Reporters? (Guest Column)



32. “In 2017, in Obama’s last days, The San Diego Union-Tribune Editorial Board echoed the criticism from Downie and Risen and called Obama’s administration “the least transparent and the most antagonistic toward the media since the Nixon administration.” In a nuanced analysis of his eight years, we wrote, “So much for Obama’s promise to lead ‘the most transparent administration in history.’” Before Trump, Obama was an 'enemy of press freedom'


33."Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/uh-oh-new-texts-suggest-obama-wh-cia-fbi-and-harry-reid-colluded-at-outset-of-n2465737



34. Posted on 3/27/2008, 1:36:25 PM

A year ago, Barack Obama addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him--Barack Obama, Child of Destiny. The only problem is he was born in 1961.

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched." http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php

Obama credits Selma march for his existence

Except that Hussein was born in 1961.



35.

1. Referring to illegal aliens, she begins :"I call them citizens because they contribute to the country."

Of course, that is not what makes one a citizen...is it.
2. The young lady continues as if with the voice of the illegal...'If I vote, will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family..."

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'

Do you deny anything above?

Are claiming that 'immigration' would 'come for ' legal citizens who voted???
3. Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'

4.He goes on to make this bald faced lie: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"


Henceforth, the terms 'lie' and 'liar' must be permanently reserved for, and applied to, Hussein Obama.




I win again, huh?

Your 'what about'-isms don't excuse Trump. I never accepted 'but he hit me first' as an excuse from my kids for doing the hitting a sibling. Would you?

Since you are such a fan of the old cut and paste:

Trump’s Lies vs. Obama’s


By DAVID LEONHARDT, IAN PRASAD PHILBRICK and STUART A. THOMPSON DEC. 14, 2017

Trump: 103

100 LIES/

FALSEHOODS

In his first 10 months, Trump told nearly

six times as many falsehoods as Obama

did during his entire presidency

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After we published a list of President Trump’s lies this summer, we heard a common response from his supporters. They said, in effect: Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.

We’ve set out to make that list. Here, you will find our attempt at a comprehensive catalog of the falsehoods that Barack Obama told while he was president. (We also discuss George W. Bush below, although the lack of real-time fact-checking during his presidency made a comprehensive list impossible.)

We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements. The result: Trump is unlike any other modern president. He seems virtually indifferent to reality, often saying whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make.

In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure. That’s an average of about two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump.

Each dot represents one blatant falsehood (repeats are excluded)



InaugurationDec. 14
Separately, we have updated our earlier list of Trump's lies, which also includes repeated falsehoods. This article counts only distinct falsehoods for both Trump and Obama.

If we had used a less strict standard, Trump would look even worse by comparison. He makes misleading statements and mild exaggerations – about economic statistics, his political opponents and many other subjects – far more often than Obama. We left out any statement that could be plausibly defended even if many people would disagree with the president's interpretation. We also left out modest quantitative errors, such as Trump's frequent imprecision with numbers.

We have used the word “lies” again here, as we did in our original piece. If anything, though, the word is unfair to Obama and Bush. When they became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it. Obama didn’t continue to claim that all Americans would be able to keep their existing health insurance under Obamacare, for example, and Bush changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capability.

Trump is different. When he is caught lying, he will often try to discredit people telling the truth, be they judges, scientists, F.B.I. or C.I.A. officials, journalists or members of Congress. Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy.

As for Obama: His falsehoods tended to be attempts to make his own policies look better or to overstate a problem he was trying to solve. In a few cases, they seemed to be careless exaggerations he avoided repeating.

Over all, Obama rarely told demonstrable untruths as president. And he appears to have become more careful over time. We counted six straight-up falsehoods in his first year in office. Across his entire second four-year term, we counted the same number, six, only one of which came in his final year in office.

In all, we found 18 different bald untruths from Obama during his presidency. Trump told his 18th separate untruth in his third full week in office, and his list keeps growing.

In fact, Trump tells falsehoods about Obama and his administration more often than Obama told falsehoods about all subjects. Since his inauguration, Trump has told 10 separate untruths about Obama, including false allegations of wiretapping and false descriptions of Obamacare. We counted only two falsehoods Obama told about Bush.

(Article continues below the list.)

President Trump
First 10 months
Jan. 21, 2017.“I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)
Jan. 21, 2017.“A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)
Jan. 23, 2017.“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)
Jan. 26, 2017.“We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.)
Jan. 26, 2017.“I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.)
Jan. 28, 2017.“The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.)
Jan. 29, 2017.“The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.)
Jan. 30, 2017.“Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)
Feb. 3, 2017.“Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.)
Feb. 6, 2017.“It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.” (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)
Feb. 6, 2017.“And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.)
Feb. 7, 2017.“And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)
Feb. 9, 2017.“Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.)
Feb. 9, 2017.“Sen. Richard Blumenthal...now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?” (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)
Feb. 10, 2017.“I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)
Feb. 12, 2017.“Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.)
Feb. 18, 2017.“You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?” (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)
Feb. 27, 2017.“Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.” (Many fewer pulled out.)
Feb. 28, 2017.“The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.” (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)
Feb. 28, 2017.“We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials.” (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)
March 3, 2017.“It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.” (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)
March 4, 2017.“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)
March 7, 2017.“122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)
March 17, 2017.“I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.” (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)
March 22, 2017.“I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems.” (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)
March 22, 2017.“NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.” (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)
March 31, 2017.“We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone.” (These investments were already planned.)
April 11, 2017.“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.” (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)
April 12, 2017.“You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.” (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)
April 12, 2017.“The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.” (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)
April 12, 2017.“Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.” (The campaign was expected to take months.)
April 16, 2017.“Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!” (There's no evidence of paid protesters.)
April 18, 2017.“The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’ I haven’t changed my stance.” (He did.)
April 21, 2017.“When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.” (He criticized it as early as 2010.)
April 27, 2017.“I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.” (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)
April 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)
April 28, 2017.“She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.” (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.)
April 29, 2017.“As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.)
April 29, 2017.“We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.” (The deal was struck in 2014.)
May 1, 2017.“Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.” (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)
May 4, 2017.“Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.” (Polls show most Americans do care.)
May 5, 2017.“We pay the highest taxes anywhere in the world.” (We're not.)
May 8, 2017.“But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.” (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.)
May 8, 2017.“Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.” (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)
May 12, 2017.“Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.” (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)
May 26, 2017.“Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.” (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.)
June 1, 2017.“China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.” (The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)
June 4, 2017.“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)
June 5, 2017.“The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.” (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)
June 21, 2017.“They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.” (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.)
June 21, 2017.“You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands.” (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.)
June 21, 2017.“Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa.” (They haven't)
June 21, 2017.“If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?” (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country’s waters explicitly excludes puddles.)
June 21, 2017.“Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way.” Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.)
June 21, 2017.“We’re 5 and 0.” (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.)
June 21, 2017.“Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades.” (Another coal mine opened in 2014.)
June 22, 2017.“Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia” (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.)
June 23, 2017.“Ratings way down!” (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.)
June 28, 2017.“Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up.” (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.)
July 17, 2017.“We’ve signed more bills — and I’m talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever.” (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.)
July 19, 2017.“But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting.” (He reports directly to the attorney general.)
July 19, 2017.“She did the uranium deal, which is a horrible thing, while she was secretary of state, and got a lot of money.” (There's no evidence Hillary Clinton was actively involved or benefited from the deal.)
July 24, 2017.“It looks like about 45,000 people. You set a record today.” (Many fewer than 45,000 were there, and the attendance was not a record.)
July 25, 2017.“We have nearly doubled the number of veterans given approvals to see the doctor of their choice.” (The increase was 26 percent.)
July 25, 2017.“Since I took office we have cut illegal immigration on our southern border by record numbers. 78 percent.” (The decline began before Trump's inauguration.)
July 28, 2017.“The previous administration enacted an open-door policy to illegal migrants from Central America. 'Welcome in. Come in, please, please.'” (Obama deported millions.)
July 28, 2017.“We have trade deficits with almost every country because we had a lot of really bad negotiators making deals with other countries.” (The U.S. has a trade surplus with more than 100 countries.)
July 31, 2017.“2.6 is a number that nobody thought they’d see for a long period of time.” (Many experts predicted economic growth at least this high.)
July 31, 2017.“And even the President of Mexico called me – they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.” (Mexico's president says he didn't call Trump.)
Aug. 3, 2017.“The Russia story is a total fabrication.” (It's not.)
Aug. 15, 2017.“We want products made in the country. Now, I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside.” (People resigned from Trump's business councils over his Charlottesville comments.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“As everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right?” (Trump's first rally was in New Hampshire.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently.” (The U.S. isn't projected to become a net energy exporter until 2026.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“Look back there, the live red lights. They're turning those suckers off fast out there. They're turning those lights off fast. Like CNN.” (CNN didn't turn off its cameras.)
Sept. 14, 2017.“Also with the fact that I know in the case of FEMA and the case of Coast Guard, the job you've done in saving people, saving lives. As an example, in Harvey in Texas, we talked – over 16,000 lives.” (The real number is smaller.)
Sept. 14, 2017.“And in Florida you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded.” (They weren't the strongest ever recorded.)
Sept. 22, 2017.“So he started off here, he was in third or fourth, he went to third, second, and now it's like almost pretty even.” (Strange consistently polled first or second in the Alabama Republican primary.)
Sept. 27, 2017.“I’m doing the right thing, and it’s not good for me.” (All available evidence suggests he would benefit.)
Sept. 27, 2017.“To protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer, we are finally ending the crushing, the horrible, the unfair estate tax.” (The real number of small businesses and farmers is vastly smaller.)
Oct. 6, 2017.“They also just said that there has been absolutely no collusion. They just said that. Yesterday. Two days ago. Senate. There has been no collusion.” (The Senate didn't say that.)
Oct. 10, 2017.“The Failing @nytimes set Liddle' Bob Corker up by recording his conversation. Was made to sound a fool, and that's what I am dealing with!” (Corker asked the Times reporter to record the call; his aides recorded it too.)
Oct. 11, 2017.“We have missiles that can knock out a missile in the air. Ninety seven per cent of the time. If you send two of them, it's going to get knocked out.” (The effectiveness rate is about 60 percent.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“I hear that Ireland is going to be reducing their corporate rates down to 8 percent from 12.” (Ireland has no plans to cut its tax rate.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls.” (They did call families of soldiers killed in action.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.” (Trump himself has bragged about groping women.)
Oct. 18, 2017.“Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).” (The wife confirmed Representative Frederica Wilson's account.)
Oct. 18, 2017.“Nobody has ever heard of a five hitting land.” (Category 5 storms have hit land before.)
Oct. 24, 2017.“Under our plan, more than 30 million Americans who own small businesses will get a 40 per cent cut to their top marginal tax rate.” (The real number is estimated to be less than 1 million.)
Oct. 27, 2017.“Wacky & totally unhinged Tom Steyer, who has been fighting me and my Make America Great Again agenda from beginning, never wins elections!” (Steyer has financially supported many winning candidates.)
Nov. 7, 2017.“When you look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, it's Chicago.” (Several other cities, including New York and Los Angeles, have stronger gun laws.)
Nov. 11, 2017.“I'd rather have him – you know, work with him on the Ukraine than standing and arguing about whether or not – because that whole thing was set up by the Democrats.” (There is no evidence that Democrats "set up" Russian interference in the election.)







President Obama
First Year
Feb. 24, 2009.“We import more oil today than ever before.” (Oil imports peaked in 2005.)
Mar. 10, 2009.“Our high school dropout rate has tripled in the past thirty years.” (It had actually declined by a third.)
June 1, 2009.“If you actually took the number of Muslims [sic] Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” (Almost 60 other countries were home to more Muslims.)
June 11, 2009.“No matter how we reform health care, I intend to keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.” (Some people had to switch plans as a result of the Affordable Care Act)
Sept. 9, 2009.“One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn't reported gallstones that he didn't even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.” (Delayed treatment didn't cause his death.)
Dec. 3, 2009.“I mentioned that I was in Asia on this trip, thinking about the economy. When I sat down for a round of interviews, not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.” (Several journalists did ask.)
Second Year
April 21, 2010.“The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.” (It wasn't.)
Sept. 20, 2010.“Keep in mind the previous administration had been helping them, giving billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.” (The Bush administration imposed multiple conditions on auto companies.)
Third Year
May 10, 2011.“Doubled our exports.” (Exports increased by less than half.)
Jun. 29, 2011.“What I have done – and this is unprecedented, by the way, no administration has done this before – is I’ve said to each agency, 'Don't just look at current regulations – or don't just look at future regulations, regulations that we’re proposing. Let’s go backwards and look at regulations that are already on the books, and if they don't make sense, let’s get rid of them.'” (Several previous administrations did.)
Fourth Year
Feb. 17, 2012.“American manufacturers are hiring for the first time since 1990.” (Manufacturing employment grew at times during the 1990s.)
Sept. 20, 2012.“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration.” (The program began under Obama.)
Fifth Year
March 1, 2013.“The janitor, the security guards, they just got a pay cut and they've got to figure out how to manage that.” (Their pay wasn't cut.)
Sept. 4, 2013.“First of all, I didn’t set a red line; the world set a red line.” (He did set a red line.)
Sixth Year
Mar. 11, 2014.“Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered.” (Most were.)
May 7, 2014.“Since 2007, [Republicans] have filibustered about 500 pieces of legislation that would help the middle class.” (The real number was closer to 50.)
Sept. 7, 2014.“I wasn’t specifically referring to ISIL” (He was.)

Eighth Year
June 29, 2016.“I mean, the steel industry is producing as much steel in the United States as it ever was.” (Steel production peaked in 1973.)

Postscript: George W. Bush
As we mentioned above, it was not possible to create a similar list for George W. Bush, because the various fact-checking groups – whose work we used heavily here – were not operating continuously when he became president, in 2001.

But several sources did try to evaluate some of his claims at the time. Their work suggests that Bush sometimes told falsehoods but was fundamentally different from Trump. Bush instead seems to be somewhere on the pre-Trump presidential spectrum.

In 2001, for example, Bush said significantly more stem-cell lines existed than actually did. Most infamously, Bush and his advisers justified the Iraq War by talking about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, which did not exist. But as costly as these claims were, Bush evidently believed them at the time. And for the most part, once his statements became demonstrably false, he stopped making them.

 

[alang1216]

Try again???
there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

If a doctor says that a pregnancy would be detrimental to a women's health?
If the child were diagnosed with a condition that would make it suffer and die young?
If the woman was the victim of rape or incest?
If the woman was a drug addict, unable to get clean, and the fetus was already affected?
If the woman was destitute and the financial impact of a pregnancy would affect both her and her family?

Is there any one or combination that you would say, an abortion was the least bad solution?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.

The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.

I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.

On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.

If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.

The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.

In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?

Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?

What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?

On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?


.

"The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term."


False.


1. “The formation, maturation and meeting of a male and female sex cell are all preliminary to their actual union into a combined cell, or zygote, which definitely marks the beginning of a new individual. The penetration of the ovum by the spermatozoon, and the coming together and pooling of their respective nuclei, constitutes the process of fertilization.”
Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.



2. “Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”

“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being...[this] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, it is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence...." - Dr Jerome LeJeune, Professor of Genetics at the University of Descartes, Paris, discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down's Syndrome, and Nobel Prize Winner

"An individual human life begins at conception when a sperm cell from the father fuses with an egg cell from the mother, to form a new cell, the zygote, the first embryonic stage. The zygote grows and divides into two daughter cells, each of which grows and divides into two grand-daughter cells, and this cell growth/division process continues on, over and over again. The zygote is the start of a biological continuum that automatically grows and develops, passing gradually and sequentially through the stages we call foetus, baby, child, adult, old person and ending eventually in death. The full genetic instructions to guide the development of the continuum, in interaction with its environment, are present in the zygote. Every stage along the continuum is biologically human and each point along the continuum has the full human properties appropriate to that point." - Dr. William Reville, University College Cork, Ireland

1.Why would society care if dishonesty, lying, and corruption were the ‘coin of the realm’? Would you care if folks cheated in that poker game, or if the business lied about the car they were selling you, or pharmaceutical companies fibbed on what was in the product, or whether they knew it was dangerous?

Would you care?

Well, demonstrably, you don’t care, not if you vote for Democrats.

This is hilarious. Trump can't open his mouth without a lie coming out and his team has racked up 137 illegal actions and 7 guilty pleas (not sure of the exact numbers). Trump was elected by people who knew he was a liar (ask Ted Cruz' grandfather, the man who killed JFK). If you're looking for people who don't care about the truth, check the nearest mirror.

'Lie'????

Did you, a noted liar claim the other side lies???


Be advised.....there has never been a more prodigious liar in the presidency than the Muslim President who just left office. You cannot find anything near what Obama did.....
.....let's prove it together.






1.” "We can't drill our way out of this problem." Any time he talks about energy, he trots out that phrase. Whatever the problem, increasing domestic oil supply is never the solution. In 2012, when running for re-election, the president declared: "Even if we drilled every square inch of this country right now, we're going to be relying on other countries for oil."
The Daily Bulletin - December 8, 2014 | RealClearEnergy

“Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices” Sorry, Mr. President: Turns Out We Can Drill Our Way to Lower Gas Prices - American Energy Alliance



Could his lies about drilling have anything to do with this???

“Obama's OMB ignores document subpoena; Upton/Stearns House panel says Monday morning or else…The subpoena is for thousands of documents requested months ago by the committee's Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations concerning OMB's evaluation of a Department of Energy economic stimulus program loan guarantee worth $535 million for Solyndra, Inc.,…” http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/bel...ocument-subpoena-uptonstearns-house-panel-say






2. Obama…a supporter of infanticide…which is why he lies to support Planned Parenthood.

“....on abortion, Obama is an extremist. He has opposed the Supreme Court decision that finally upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act against that form of infanticide. Most startlingly, for a professed humanist, Obama – in the Illinois Senate – also voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

I have reported on several of those cases when, before the abortion was completed, an alive infant was suddenly in the room. It was disposed of as a horrified nurse who was not necessarily pro-life followed the doctors’ orders to put the baby in a pail or otherwise get rid of the child.” Infanticide candidate for president




…who has stated that he didn’t want his daughters ‘punished’ with a baby…..told this lie:


You’ve got issues like Planned Parenthood, where that organization provides millions of women cervical-cancer screenings, mammograms, all kinds of basic health care.”— President Obama during an interview on “The Tonight Show,” Oct. 24, 2012

“The president has suggested time and again that Planned Parenthood directly provides mammograms, but the organization only offers referrals and helps women find financial resources for the exams. This suggests an intentional attempt to mislead voters…”
Obama’s ‘Tonight Show’ remark: Planned Parenthood provides mammograms


3. Get this lie:
“’more black men languish in prison in America than attend college.” Obama

"the most frequently quoted statistic about black men in the United States."


4. Lies, damn lies….and Obama lies:

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians




….and….

5. Obama’s claim that Keystone XL oil ‘bypasses the U.S.’ earns Four Pinocchioshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/02/obamas-claim-that-keystone-xl-oil-bypasses-the-u-s-earns-four-pinocchios/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8c2ed3f65ed8




….and….

6. After accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama bombed more countries than any President since WWII

“U.S. Bombed Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia in 2016” The U.S. dropped an average of 3 bombs per hour last year



His whole presidency was a lie by the Left.....and suckers bought it like it was on sale.




7. Is this a lie, of just the sort of thing Liberals do?

The Peace Prize for a man who had a kill list in the Oval Office:

“The Disposition Matrix, informally known as a kill list, is a database of information for tracking, capturing, rendering, or killing suspected enemies of the United States.[1] Developed by the Obama administration beginning in 2010, the "Disposition Matrix" goes beyond existing kill lists and is intended to become a permanent fixture of U.S. policy.[1] The process determining criteria for killing is not public and was heavily shaped by National Counterterrorism Director and former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director John O. Brennan.[2]


8. “Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay

The good times may be over for good. In a speech to the Economic Club of New York yesterday, US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the US GDP growth rate, adjusted for inflation, is now projected to run a little above 2% a year.”
Team Obama: Sorry, America, the 'new normal' may be here to stay - AEI


Then, along came Trump….

“U.S. households are back to their free spending ways, with the strength of May’s retail sales figures implying that second-quarter real consumption growth (and GDP growth for that matter) will now be more than 4% annualized.



9. “Obama’s whopper of a claim on tax cuts

“We said working folks deserved a break, so within one month of me taking office, we signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history, putting more money into your pockets.”
— President Obama, Sept. 5, 2011


10. 10. “Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies

…he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.

It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”
Obama’s claim that ‘90 percent’ of the current deficit is due to Bush policies



"It is astonishing to see the[Democrat Obama] repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.”
And they're still lying!!!



11. Obama called ISIS the JV and then said he didn’t call them the JV…

“Obama said he “wasn’t specifically referring” to ISIS when he made the junior varsity reference during an interview with The New Yorker in January. But the magazine article and a transcript of the interview — which Washington Post Fact Checker Glenn Kessler obtained and wrote about earlier this month — shows that Obama was referring to ISIS when he said “if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.”
Obama Fumbles 'JV Team' Question - FactCheck.org

WaPo calls him a liar……again.





12. Here he goes again:
“Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’”

Really???

Then explain this:

“The April 4 attack in Khan Sheikhun, which cost the lives of more than 80 people ….

Defense Secretary James Mattis said Monday the firing of 59 cruise missiles from two U.S. Navy destroyers in the Mediterranean was intended to “show the United States will not passively stand by while [President Bashar] Assad murders innocent people with chemical weapons, which are prohibited by international law and which were declared destroyed.” Obama in 2015: ‘Assad Gave Up His Chemical Weapons…Those Have Been Eliminated’

13. President Obama: “So let’s start with this fact: For more than a thousand years, people have been drawn to Islam’s message of peace. And the very word itself, ‘Islam,’ comes from ‘salam’ — peace.”

Why did Obama say this? Even Muslim websites acknowledge that “Islam” means “submission” [to Allah], that it comes from the Arabic root “aslama” meaning submission, and that “Islam” is in the command form of that verb.


14. Obama Saying 'Islam has been Woven into the Fabric of our Country Since its Founding'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZIXlIU9vEQ

15. The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression." http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/08/usa-politics-debate-economy-idUSN0749084220081008





16. The Kick-Back to Donors Plan….I mean the Stimulus…

In Barack Obama’s speech to the joint session of Congress, the President emphasized that his new jobs plan had four specific qualities that made it easy to pass this bill immediately, as Obama chanted repeatedly during his speech. His plan would be fully funded, it would not add to the deficit, it would create jobs immediately, and it was chock-full of bipartisan ideas. The Associated Press fact-checked these claims, and found them all false.

17. Obama lied and misled the American people in his description of his relationship with terrorist Bill Ayers as casual and arm's-length:” just a guy in my neighborhood.” His spokesman even claimed he ony knew him because his kids went to school with Ayers’ kids. Now it is clear that the relationship was close, and the evidence is that Ayers actually wrote Obama’s ‘autobiography.’



18. Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress
Report: Released Criminal Aliens Committed Nearly 10 Times More Crimes Than Obama Admin. Told Congress | Breitbart



19. Do you recall this Obama response at one of the debates: “I think America's greatest moral failure in my lifetime has been that we still don't abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”



Perhaps this is the biggest hypocrisy and the greatest look into his character: “The average American household gives about two percent of adjusted gross income,” …Obama…less than 1%









And he wouldn’t help the ‘least of his own brothers’ out of poverty:

"Barack Obama's half brother, George Onyango Obama, was found living in a 6 by 10 foot slum hut in Huruma estate just outside of Nairobi. According to reports George Obama survives on $12 a year in the slums of Kenya."

Barack's Half Brother: George Obama's Hut Is In The Slums Of Kenya







20. “Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These?
Former president Barack Obama might not have experienced the fallout from a scandal, but that's very different from never having been involved in one.” Obama: 'I Didn't Have Scandals.' So What Are All These? | RealClearPolitics

21. Not only do the Leftists like Obama lie to their base with no compunctions….but they laugh at how gullible their voters are:

Charlie Rose and President’s Speechwriters Laugh About ObamaCare Lie ‘If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.’



22. The lies often serve the purpose of appealing to particular constituencies…..here, to Jewish voters:

"The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate
MAY 27, 2008 | 4:21 PM
Barack Obama, at a Memorial Day event in Las Cruces, N.M., credited his great-uncle, Charlie Payne, as being among the U.S. troops who liberated the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz.



The trouble with that bit of history -- as the Republican National Committee pointed out today -- is that the Soviet Red Army was the military force that liberated the World War II death camp."
The Nazi death camp that Barack Obama's great-uncle helped liberate



23. The lies are often revealed in the actions of the Democrats. While thumping their collective chests about how they feel for black Americans….their actions reveal something altogether different:

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

24. Here is Democrat apparatchik George Stephanopoulos ‘correcting’ Obama’s mention of his Muslim faith…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

His actions throughout his presidency make this an admission more than a gaffe.

The big question about Hussein Obama was always was he Sunni or Shia…and with the Iran deal, we got answer.



25. "My expectation is that if you want to be president, you have to work for everyone, not just for some," Obama said in a taping of the "Late Show" with David Letterman... …the job of the President is to “represent all people.” “If you want to be President, You have to work for everybody, not just for some." https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/09/obama-as-president-you-represent-everyone-most-people-dont-think-theyre-victims-135939



“According to the experts who contributed to the Brookings Institution report, Barack Obama numbers among the most polarizing presidents in American history.” https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/most-polarizing-presidents-including-donald-trump.html/?a=viewall





“A Gallup poll released Wednesday shows that former President Obama's approval ratings are easily the most polarized in modern American history, with Democrats rating him highly and Republicans rating him poorly.

"Throughout his presidency, Barack Obama averaged 83% job approval among Democrats and 13% among Republicans," reports Gallup. "That 70-percentage-point party gap in job approval ratings easily eclipses the prior high — 61 points for George W. Bush.

"All other presidents had party gaps of 55 points or less." http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316024-gallup-obama-approval-ratings-most-polarized-in-us-history



The Democrats wanted to put Hussein Obama on Mt. Rushmore....but they don't have enough room for two more faces.

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26. Remember Edward Snowden? Obama responded to Snowden’s stunning revelations of the National Security Agency’s vacuuming up millions of Americans’ personal data by going on the Jay Leno Show and proclaiming: “There is no spying on Americans.”

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds

27. “OBAMA SAYS MANUFACTURING JOBS AREN’T COMING BACK – THEN TRUMP SETS RECORD OF JOBS IN ONE MONTH”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EWG6gYlhQ
28. “Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries…. The only problem with his answer was that he was standing in Paris, where a mass shooting conducted by Islamic State terrorists had just taken place, killing over 100 people.”

Obama In Paris: Mass Shootings Don’t Happen In Other Countries | Breitbart

“'Children's bodies are everywhere': NINETEEN people are killed in Crimean school massacre after student walks into canteen and opens fire –“ Crimea shooting: NINETEEN people are killed in school massacre | Daily Mail Online



29. “22 Times President Obama Said He Couldn’t Ignore or Create His Own Immigration Law” https://www.speaker.gov/general/22-...dn-t-ignore-or-create-his-own-immigration-law
“How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegal Aliens” How the Obama Administration Bypassed Congress to Grant De Facto Amnesty to Young Illegals



30. “OBAMA APPEARS WITH, ENDORSES NEVADA CANDIDATE JUST DAYS AFTER EX-WIFE LEVELS ABUSE ALLEGATIONS
· Former President Barack Obama and Nevada Democratic senatorial candidate Jacky Rosen — who tweeted “Believe women” in September — and other Nevada Democrats did not respond when asked to comment on the allegations after they endorsed Sisolak.”

Obama Appears With, Endorses Nevada Candidate Just Days After Ex-Wife Levels Abuse Allegations

31. “Obama, who campaigned on a promise to protect government whistle-blowers, made greater use of the Espionage Act to prosecute leakers and menace journalists than all other presidents combined.

Obama’s Justice Department accessed the personal email of a Fox News reporter and surveilled the reporter’s parents and colleagues. They seized the home, work and mobile phone records of journalists at the Associated Press.

White House officials subverted the press in a number of ways while touting themselves as the most transparent in history.” Trump Wages War on the Press, but Was Obama Much Better to Reporters? (Guest Column)



32. “In 2017, in Obama’s last days, The San Diego Union-Tribune Editorial Board echoed the criticism from Downie and Risen and called Obama’s administration “the least transparent and the most antagonistic toward the media since the Nixon administration.” In a nuanced analysis of his eight years, we wrote, “So much for Obama’s promise to lead ‘the most transparent administration in history.’” Before Trump, Obama was an 'enemy of press freedom'


33."Uh Oh: New Texts Suggest Obama WH, CIA, FBI, And Harry Reid Colluded At Outset Of Russia Probe
There are new texts allegedly showing that the Obama White House, the CIA, the FBI, and top Democrats colluded at the outset of the Russia probe.

...coordination between former President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, and CIA Director John Brennan —which they say would “contradict” the Obama administration’s public stance about its hand in the process."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/28/uh-oh-new-texts-suggest-obama-wh-cia-fbi-and-harry-reid-colluded-at-outset-of-n2465737



34. Posted on 3/27/2008, 1:36:25 PM

A year ago, Barack Obama addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him--Barack Obama, Child of Destiny. The only problem is he was born in 1961.

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched." http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php

Obama credits Selma march for his existence

Except that Hussein was born in 1961.



35.

1. Referring to illegal aliens, she begins :"I call them citizens because they contribute to the country."

Of course, that is not what makes one a citizen...is it.
2. The young lady continues as if with the voice of the illegal...'If I vote, will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family..."

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'

Do you deny anything above?

Are claiming that 'immigration' would 'come for ' legal citizens who voted???
3. Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'

'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'

4.He goes on to make this bald faced lie: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"


Henceforth, the terms 'lie' and 'liar' must be permanently reserved for, and applied to, Hussein Obama.




I win again, huh?

Your 'what about'-isms don't excuse Trump. I never accepted 'but he hit me first' as an excuse from my kids for doing the hitting a sibling. Would you?

Since you are such a fan of the old cut and paste:

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After we published a list of President Trump’s lies this summer, we heard a common response from his supporters. They said, in effect: Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.

We’ve set out to make that list. Here, you will find our attempt at a comprehensive catalog of the falsehoods that Barack Obama told while he was president. (We also discuss George W. Bush below, although the lack of real-time fact-checking during his presidency made a comprehensive list impossible.)

We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements. The result: Trump is unlike any other modern president. He seems virtually indifferent to reality, often saying whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make.

In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure. That’s an average of about two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump.

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InaugurationDec. 14
Separately, we have updated our earlier list of Trump's lies, which also includes repeated falsehoods. This article counts only distinct falsehoods for both Trump and Obama.

If we had used a less strict standard, Trump would look even worse by comparison. He makes misleading statements and mild exaggerations – about economic statistics, his political opponents and many other subjects – far more often than Obama. We left out any statement that could be plausibly defended even if many people would disagree with the president's interpretation. We also left out modest quantitative errors, such as Trump's frequent imprecision with numbers.

We have used the word “lies” again here, as we did in our original piece. If anything, though, the word is unfair to Obama and Bush. When they became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it. Obama didn’t continue to claim that all Americans would be able to keep their existing health insurance under Obamacare, for example, and Bush changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capability.

Trump is different. When he is caught lying, he will often try to discredit people telling the truth, be they judges, scientists, F.B.I. or C.I.A. officials, journalists or members of Congress. Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy.

As for Obama: His falsehoods tended to be attempts to make his own policies look better or to overstate a problem he was trying to solve. In a few cases, they seemed to be careless exaggerations he avoided repeating.

Over all, Obama rarely told demonstrable untruths as president. And he appears to have become more careful over time. We counted six straight-up falsehoods in his first year in office. Across his entire second four-year term, we counted the same number, six, only one of which came in his final year in office.

In all, we found 18 different bald untruths from Obama during his presidency. Trump told his 18th separate untruth in his third full week in office, and his list keeps growing.

In fact, Trump tells falsehoods about Obama and his administration more often than Obama told falsehoods about all subjects. Since his inauguration, Trump has told 10 separate untruths about Obama, including false allegations of wiretapping and false descriptions of Obamacare. We counted only two falsehoods Obama told about Bush.

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President Trump
First 10 months
Jan. 21, 2017.“I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)
Jan. 21, 2017.“A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)
Jan. 23, 2017.“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)
Jan. 25, 2017.“So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)
Jan. 26, 2017.“We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.)
Jan. 26, 2017.“I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.)
Jan. 28, 2017.“The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.)
Jan. 29, 2017.“The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.)
Jan. 30, 2017.“Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)
Feb. 3, 2017.“Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.)
Feb. 6, 2017.“It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.” (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)
Feb. 6, 2017.“And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.)
Feb. 7, 2017.“And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)
Feb. 9, 2017.“Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.)
Feb. 9, 2017.“Sen. Richard Blumenthal...now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?” (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)
Feb. 10, 2017.“I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)
Feb. 12, 2017.“Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.)
Feb. 16, 2017.“They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.)
Feb. 18, 2017.“You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?” (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.)
Feb. 24, 2017.“Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)
Feb. 27, 2017.“Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.” (Many fewer pulled out.)
Feb. 28, 2017.“The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.” (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)
Feb. 28, 2017.“We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials.” (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)
March 3, 2017.“It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.” (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)
March 4, 2017.“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)
March 7, 2017.“122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)
March 17, 2017.“I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.” (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)
March 22, 2017.“I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems.” (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)
March 22, 2017.“NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.” (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)
March 31, 2017.“We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone.” (These investments were already planned.)
April 11, 2017.“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.” (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)
April 12, 2017.“You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.” (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)
April 12, 2017.“The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.” (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)
April 12, 2017.“Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.” (The campaign was expected to take months.)
April 16, 2017.“Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!” (There's no evidence of paid protesters.)
April 18, 2017.“The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’ I haven’t changed my stance.” (He did.)
April 21, 2017.“When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.” (He criticized it as early as 2010.)
April 27, 2017.“I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.” (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)
April 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)
April 28, 2017.“She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.” (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.)
April 29, 2017.“As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.)
April 29, 2017.“We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.” (The deal was struck in 2014.)
May 1, 2017.“Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.” (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)
May 4, 2017.“Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.” (Polls show most Americans do care.)
May 5, 2017.“We pay the highest taxes anywhere in the world.” (We're not.)
May 8, 2017.“But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.” (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.)
May 8, 2017.“Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.” (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)
May 12, 2017.“Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.” (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)
May 26, 2017.“Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.” (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.)
June 1, 2017.“China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.” (The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)
June 4, 2017.“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)
June 5, 2017.“The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.” (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)
June 21, 2017.“They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.” (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.)
June 21, 2017.“You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands.” (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.)
June 21, 2017.“Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa.” (They haven't)
June 21, 2017.“If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?” (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country’s waters explicitly excludes puddles.)
June 21, 2017.“Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way.” Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.)
June 21, 2017.“We’re 5 and 0.” (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.)
June 21, 2017.“Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades.” (Another coal mine opened in 2014.)
June 22, 2017.“Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia” (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.)
June 23, 2017.“Ratings way down!” (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.)
June 28, 2017.“Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up.” (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.)
July 17, 2017.“We’ve signed more bills — and I’m talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever.” (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.)
July 19, 2017.“But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting.” (He reports directly to the attorney general.)
July 19, 2017.“She did the uranium deal, which is a horrible thing, while she was secretary of state, and got a lot of money.” (There's no evidence Hillary Clinton was actively involved or benefited from the deal.)
July 24, 2017.“It looks like about 45,000 people. You set a record today.” (Many fewer than 45,000 were there, and the attendance was not a record.)
July 25, 2017.“We have nearly doubled the number of veterans given approvals to see the doctor of their choice.” (The increase was 26 percent.)
July 25, 2017.“Since I took office we have cut illegal immigration on our southern border by record numbers. 78 percent.” (The decline began before Trump's inauguration.)
July 28, 2017.“The previous administration enacted an open-door policy to illegal migrants from Central America. 'Welcome in. Come in, please, please.'” (Obama deported millions.)
July 28, 2017.“We have trade deficits with almost every country because we had a lot of really bad negotiators making deals with other countries.” (The U.S. has a trade surplus with more than 100 countries.)
July 31, 2017.“2.6 is a number that nobody thought they’d see for a long period of time.” (Many experts predicted economic growth at least this high.)
July 31, 2017.“And even the President of Mexico called me – they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.” (Mexico's president says he didn't call Trump.)
Aug. 3, 2017.“The Russia story is a total fabrication.” (It's not.)
Aug. 15, 2017.“We want products made in the country. Now, I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside.” (People resigned from Trump's business councils over his Charlottesville comments.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“As everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right?” (Trump's first rally was in New Hampshire.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently.” (The U.S. isn't projected to become a net energy exporter until 2026.)
Aug. 22, 2017.“Look back there, the live red lights. They're turning those suckers off fast out there. They're turning those lights off fast. Like CNN.” (CNN didn't turn off its cameras.)
Sept. 14, 2017.“Also with the fact that I know in the case of FEMA and the case of Coast Guard, the job you've done in saving people, saving lives. As an example, in Harvey in Texas, we talked – over 16,000 lives.” (The real number is smaller.)
Sept. 14, 2017.“And in Florida you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded.” (They weren't the strongest ever recorded.)
Sept. 22, 2017.“So he started off here, he was in third or fourth, he went to third, second, and now it's like almost pretty even.” (Strange consistently polled first or second in the Alabama Republican primary.)
Sept. 27, 2017.“I’m doing the right thing, and it’s not good for me.” (All available evidence suggests he would benefit.)
Sept. 27, 2017.“To protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer, we are finally ending the crushing, the horrible, the unfair estate tax.” (The real number of small businesses and farmers is vastly smaller.)
Oct. 6, 2017.“They also just said that there has been absolutely no collusion. They just said that. Yesterday. Two days ago. Senate. There has been no collusion.” (The Senate didn't say that.)
Oct. 10, 2017.“The Failing @nytimes set Liddle' Bob Corker up by recording his conversation. Was made to sound a fool, and that's what I am dealing with!” (Corker asked the Times reporter to record the call; his aides recorded it too.)
Oct. 11, 2017.“We have missiles that can knock out a missile in the air. Ninety seven per cent of the time. If you send two of them, it's going to get knocked out.” (The effectiveness rate is about 60 percent.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“I hear that Ireland is going to be reducing their corporate rates down to 8 percent from 12.” (Ireland has no plans to cut its tax rate.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls.” (They did call families of soldiers killed in action.)
Oct. 16, 2017.“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.” (Trump himself has bragged about groping women.)
Oct. 18, 2017.“Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).” (The wife confirmed Representative Frederica Wilson's account.)
Oct. 18, 2017.“Nobody has ever heard of a five hitting land.” (Category 5 storms have hit land before.)
Oct. 24, 2017.“Under our plan, more than 30 million Americans who own small businesses will get a 40 per cent cut to their top marginal tax rate.” (The real number is estimated to be less than 1 million.)
Oct. 27, 2017.“Wacky & totally unhinged Tom Steyer, who has been fighting me and my Make America Great Again agenda from beginning, never wins elections!” (Steyer has financially supported many winning candidates.)
Nov. 7, 2017.“When you look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, it's Chicago.” (Several other cities, including New York and Los Angeles, have stronger gun laws.)
Nov. 11, 2017.“I'd rather have him – you know, work with him on the Ukraine than standing and arguing about whether or not – because that whole thing was set up by the Democrats.” (There is no evidence that Democrats "set up" Russian interference in the election.)







President Obama
First Year
Feb. 24, 2009.“We import more oil today than ever before.” (Oil imports peaked in 2005.)
Mar. 10, 2009.“Our high school dropout rate has tripled in the past thirty years.” (It had actually declined by a third.)
June 1, 2009.“If you actually took the number of Muslims [sic] Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” (Almost 60 other countries were home to more Muslims.)
June 11, 2009.“No matter how we reform health care, I intend to keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep your doctor; if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.” (Some people had to switch plans as a result of the Affordable Care Act)
Sept. 9, 2009.“One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn't reported gallstones that he didn't even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.” (Delayed treatment didn't cause his death.)
Dec. 3, 2009.“I mentioned that I was in Asia on this trip, thinking about the economy. When I sat down for a round of interviews, not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.” (Several journalists did ask.)
Second Year
April 21, 2010.“The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.” (It wasn't.)
Sept. 20, 2010.“Keep in mind the previous administration had been helping them, giving billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.” (The Bush administration imposed multiple conditions on auto companies.)
Third Year
May 10, 2011.“Doubled our exports.” (Exports increased by less than half.)
Jun. 29, 2011.“What I have done – and this is unprecedented, by the way, no administration has done this before – is I’ve said to each agency, 'Don't just look at current regulations – or don't just look at future regulations, regulations that we’re proposing. Let’s go backwards and look at regulations that are already on the books, and if they don't make sense, let’s get rid of them.'” (Several previous administrations did.)
Fourth Year
Feb. 17, 2012.“American manufacturers are hiring for the first time since 1990.” (Manufacturing employment grew at times during the 1990s.)
Sept. 20, 2012.“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration.” (The program began under Obama.)
Fifth Year
March 1, 2013.“The janitor, the security guards, they just got a pay cut and they've got to figure out how to manage that.” (Their pay wasn't cut.)
Sept. 4, 2013.“First of all, I didn’t set a red line; the world set a red line.” (He did set a red line.)
Sixth Year
Mar. 11, 2014.“Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered.” (Most were.)
May 7, 2014.“Since 2007, [Republicans] have filibustered about 500 pieces of legislation that would help the middle class.” (The real number was closer to 50.)
Sept. 7, 2014.“I wasn’t specifically referring to ISIL” (He was.)

Eighth Year
June 29, 2016.“I mean, the steel industry is producing as much steel in the United States as it ever was.” (Steel production peaked in 1973.)

Postscript: George W. Bush
As we mentioned above, it was not possible to create a similar list for George W. Bush, because the various fact-checking groups – whose work we used heavily here – were not operating continuously when he became president, in 2001.

But several sources did try to evaluate some of his claims at the time. Their work suggests that Bush sometimes told falsehoods but was fundamentally different from Trump. Bush instead seems to be somewhere on the pre-Trump presidential spectrum.

In 2001, for example, Bush said significantly more stem-cell lines existed than actually did. Most infamously, Bush and his advisers justified the Iraq War by talking about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, which did not exist. But as costly as these claims were, Bush evidently believed them at the time. And for the most part, once his statements became demonstrably false, he stopped making them.

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Try again???
there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

If a doctor says that a pregnancy would be detrimental to a women's health?
If the child were diagnosed with a condition that would make it suffer and die young?
If the woman was the victim of rape or incest?
If the woman was a drug addict, unable to get clean, and the fetus was already affected?
If the woman was destitute and the financial impact of a pregnancy would affect both her and her family?

Is there any one or combination that you would say, an abortion was the least bad solution?

"If the woman was the victim of rape or incest?"
"If a doctor says that a pregnancy would be detrimental to a women's health?"

3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."




The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.


The late Dr. James McMahon performed thousands of partial-birth abortions, and five women he had performed third-trimester abortions on appeared with President Clinton at his April 10, 1996, veto ceremony.

In June, 1995, Dr. McMahon submitted to Congress a detailed breakdown of a “series” of over 2,000 of these abortions that he had performed. He classified only 9% (175 cases) as involving “maternal [health] indications,” of which the most common was “depression.” Hillary Supports Restrictions on Abortion at 'the Very End of 3rd Trimester' (Video)




In nearly every case, the excuse for abortion is convenience.

If that is a valid excuse....how long do you imagine you'd be around?


there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.

The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.

I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.

On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.

If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.

The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.

In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?

Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?

What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?

On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?


.

"The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate."

That is not the truth.

This is:

. The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.” In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:

a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries

b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.” http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

c. We reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.


On-demand abortion is antithetical to the ideas and ideals upon which America was built.
Based on “Voices of the Damned,” found in “Reinventing the Right,” by Robert Wheeler, pp. 89-99.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.

The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.

I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.

On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.

If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.

The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.

In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?

Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?

What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?

On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?


.

"I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude."


It appears you are clueless as to how she got in that condition.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The problem with laws prohibiting abortion is that they do not properly balance the rights of two individuals and the individual-ness of one is seriously in question until much later in the term.

The truth is that there are good-faith arguments on both sides of the debate. One can be morally opposed to abortion and still oppose laws restricting the practice.

I am legally pro-choice because the flip side is government forcing a woman to carry a baby she does not want to carry. That is involuntary servitude. I don't give a shit about the choice to fuck. That is irrelevant, unless the ultimate goal is to regulate sex practices of consenting adults. If that be the case, let's just go to war now and get it over with.

On top of forcing a woman to carry a child, that mother (and the father) is then forced to support that child for the next 2 decades.

If you call one murder, you must also call the other assault, battery, invasion of privacy, endangerment of serious bodily injury or death, and theft.

The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. Government-forced carry, labor, and delivery is, quite literally, government sanctioned involuntary servitude. On that principle, if government can force a woman to deliver life-support to another individual in pregnancy, government can force it any other time. That is the epitome of statism and authoritarianism.

In prehistoric times, when food is scarce or in other times of survival stress, would anyone have had the audacity to forcibly stop a pregnant woman from take some herbs to cause a miscarriage or jamming a sharp stick into her own womb? Would they have the right back then?

Why do they have the right to do it NOW? What changed?

What duty did she owe to other humans that would justify their intervention?

On the same principle, what duty do I owe to others in society to provide for their support? What duty do I owe to any other person to be forced to support some unknown third party? No human owed another human such a duty in prehistoric times. What changed?


.

"The right of an individual (if such a status can be established as distinct from another individual) should generally give way to the individual who is providing life-giving support to the other. "


Is there any argument for the "right" of a woman to authorize the killing of her unborn baby that would not apply to her authorizing the similar slaughter of a year old that she was breastfeeding?


'cause....if there isn't, and one is murder, so, then, is the other.

That's called logic.

 

[Marion Morrison]

2. Let's begin here: there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

What you mean to say is there is none YOU would accept. Thankfully you are not the moral compass for the rest of us.

Where is your moral compass grounded? Upon what standards is it based?

 

[alang1216]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

 

[alang1216]

The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.

In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….

Whatever the actual numbers, I think we can agree they are NOT ZERO. In those rare cases of rape, incest, or a (valid) health concern, is abortion a moral choice?

 

[alang1216]

2. Let's begin here: there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

What you mean to say is there is none YOU would accept. Thankfully you are not the moral compass for the rest of us.

Where is your moral compass grounded? Upon what standards is it based?

Like everyone else's compass, mine is based on my values which come from my upbringing, my family, my friends, my experiences, my culture, etc.

 

[Marion Morrison]

2. Let's begin here: there is no moral or biological defense of abortion….and certainly not of partial birth abortion

What you mean to say is there is none YOU would accept. Thankfully you are not the moral compass for the rest of us.

Where is your moral compass grounded? Upon what standards is it based?

Like everyone else's compass, mine is based on my values which come from my upbringing, my family, my friends, my experiences, my culture, etc.

So you were a crackbaby orphan raised by the state? The state is all-powerful?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

Both are 100% true, accurate and factual.

No wonder you favor liars.....birds of a feather and all.

 

[alang1216]

So you were a crackbaby orphan raised by the state? The state is all-powerful?

I was raised in a city where I went to public school and rode city buses and trains to get around. I walked on public sidewalks, drove on public roads, and was protected by police and firemen. I depended on the gov't services working well. Do you live on top of a mountain somewhere off the grid?

 

[PoliticalChic]

10.In order to give Democrat Bill ‘the rapist’ Clinton cover to veto the Republican ban on partial birth assassination, Democrat Elena Kagan altered the statement by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.


Democrat Kagan falsified the statement.


Democrat Kagan....presumptive Supreme Court Justice and Democrat luminary.......lied and committed fraud. Her reward was to be put on the Supreme Court.




Wanna digest that????

A Democrat who would be a Supreme Court Justice altered a document so as to make it look like the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists claimed that partial birth abortion was useful to save the lives and/or protect the health of pregnant women…..


….when they had said exactly the opposite:

"A select panel convened by ACOG could identify no circumstances under which this procedure ... would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman."

Kagan deserved a place in Dante’s Inferno 8th circle….Panderers and seducers, flatterers, sorcerers and false prophets, liars, thieves…..
….instead, was catapulted into the Supreme Court.

This is only possible because Democrat voters have been trained to ignore honesty, truth or justice.





“The only places one finds justice is the dictionary and the cemetery.”

 

[alang1216]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

Both are 100% true, accurate and factual.

No wonder you favor liars.....birds of a feather and all.

No, one is taken out of context the other is an interpretation not shared by Obama or most everyone else. They are dishonest spin.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

Both are 100% true, accurate and factual.

No wonder you favor liars.....birds of a feather and all.

No, one is taken out of context the other is an interpretation not shared by Obama or most everyone else. They are dishonest spin.

I never mind proving you a low-life liar.

Let's do it again.

In both cases I provided exactly what the Muslim President said.

1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




"Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us
President Obama's deal with Iran was supposed to keep that nation's mullahs from creating a nuclear weapon with which it could intimidate and dominate the Mideast and much of Europe. Instead, it actually makes it more possible -- and in shorter time.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of a secret side deal that, in the words of the normally circumspect AP, advances "Tehran's ability to build a bomb even before the end of the pact." The accord as agreed to by the U.S. and five other nations was supposed to last 15 years. Or so we were told. Turns out, that's not the case.


...the deal as signed all but guarantees that Iran will someday get a nuclear weapon with which to terrorize its neighbors. What the AP document does is move up the time under which Iran can make a nuclear weapon. So we'll all be at risk sooner than we think.

The so-called "add-on" agreement lets Iran expand its uranium enrichment program after 10 years -- not 15 years, as the public parts of the deal suggested."
Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD



Don't wipe the egg off your face.....it's an improvement.

 

[alang1216]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

Both are 100% true, accurate and factual.

No wonder you favor liars.....birds of a feather and all.

No, one is taken out of context the other is an interpretation not shared by Obama or most everyone else. They are dishonest spin.

I never mind proving you a low-life liar.

Let's do it again.

In both cases I provided exactly what the Muslim President said.

1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




"Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us
President Obama's deal with Iran was supposed to keep that nation's mullahs from creating a nuclear weapon with which it could intimidate and dominate the Mideast and much of Europe. Instead, it actually makes it more possible -- and in shorter time.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of a secret side deal that, in the words of the normally circumspect AP, advances "Tehran's ability to build a bomb even before the end of the pact." The accord as agreed to by the U.S. and five other nations was supposed to last 15 years. Or so we were told. Turns out, that's not the case.


...the deal as signed all but guarantees that Iran will someday get a nuclear weapon with which to terrorize its neighbors. What the AP document does is move up the time under which Iran can make a nuclear weapon. So we'll all be at risk sooner than we think.

The so-called "add-on" agreement lets Iran expand its uranium enrichment program after 10 years -- not 15 years, as the public parts of the deal suggested."
Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD



Don't wipe the egg off your face.....it's an improvement.

The first quote is taken out of context so it is not a lie, it is merely deceitful.

I don't see any guarantees that Iran will get a bomb only that their efforts will be delayed. Obama is not giving them a bomb.

I appreciate you doubling down providing an outright lie, calling Obama a Muslim. Thanks for showing your true feathers.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Feed your bloated swill through this prism, and provide any that meet this level:

Nothing Trump has prevaricated about amounts to a hill of beans compared to these examples:


1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

Firstly, I thought you'd like my bloated swill, it was just as bloated and swillish as yours was.

Secondly, I see why you like Trump so much since neither of your statements are truthful.

Both are 100% true, accurate and factual.

No wonder you favor liars.....birds of a feather and all.

No, one is taken out of context the other is an interpretation not shared by Obama or most everyone else. They are dishonest spin.

I never mind proving you a low-life liar.

Let's do it again.

In both cases I provided exactly what the Muslim President said.

1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




"Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us
President Obama's deal with Iran was supposed to keep that nation's mullahs from creating a nuclear weapon with which it could intimidate and dominate the Mideast and much of Europe. Instead, it actually makes it more possible -- and in shorter time.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of a secret side deal that, in the words of the normally circumspect AP, advances "Tehran's ability to build a bomb even before the end of the pact." The accord as agreed to by the U.S. and five other nations was supposed to last 15 years. Or so we were told. Turns out, that's not the case.


...the deal as signed all but guarantees that Iran will someday get a nuclear weapon with which to terrorize its neighbors. What the AP document does is move up the time under which Iran can make a nuclear weapon. So we'll all be at risk sooner than we think.

The so-called "add-on" agreement lets Iran expand its uranium enrichment program after 10 years -- not 15 years, as the public parts of the deal suggested."
Obama Gave Iran A Faster Route To A Nuke -- And Didn't Tell Us | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD



Don't wipe the egg off your face.....it's an improvement.

The first quote is taken out of context so it is not a lie, it is merely deceitful.

I don't see any guarantees that Iran will get a bomb only that their efforts will be delayed. Obama is not giving them a bomb.

I appreciate you doubling down providing an outright lie, calling Obama a Muslim. Thanks for showing your true feathers.

"...not a lie, it is merely deceitful."


Astounding from a normal person....not from a Democrat.




"I appreciate you doubling down providing an outright lie, calling Obama a Muslim."

I was soooooo hoping to get you to say that, so I could prove it.


1. You will neither be able to deny any of the following, nor will you be able to come up with a plausible explanation for same other than as proof that Obama is a Muslim.

I provide these indicia as proof that Hussein Obama was at the very least, a crypto-Islamist, out to promote that Eastern culture and religion over the one that make America great.


There is no way to explain away this body of evidence herein, other than the conclusion above.


Any mistakes herein??????


2.Know the quote attributed to Aristotle….“Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”

In no case it that more revealing than the life of Hussein Obama.

“…Obama's father was from Africa, and Obama has said his father was born a Muslim.

Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather from 1967 to 1971, approximately from the ages of 6 to 10.

…Indonesia is a Muslim country, and Obama attended a public school there, ….substantiated evidence indicates Obama attended a public school that taught a small amount of mainstream Islam. The news reports say that Obama's registration form indicates his religion was Muslim,…” Obama attended an Indonesian public school



3. A key difference between Islam and western religion is the doctrine that lying in defense of the faith is required.

“Taqiya is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution. This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecutionor compulsion. However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.” Taqiyya - Wikiquote


Sometimes, an adherent may slip up….
“ The words "my Muslim faith" were uttered by Barack Obama in an ABC News interview with George Stephanopoulos, excerpted on YouTube.[1]
· Obama: Let's not play games. What I was suggesting - you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith, and you're absolutely right that that has not come at my ...

· Stephanopoulos: [breaking in] Christian faith

• Obama: [stuttering] ma - my Christian faith ... “

Did you ever make that mistake….say you were Muslim? Never??? Not even once?????





4. Just for argument’s sake, let’s suppose that Obama was an undercover Muslim….who might want to help him to…..advance?



“…Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.

The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.

In the interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist who was a “mentor” to the founders of the Black Panther party at the time the party was founded in the early 1960s.

Sutton described al-Mansour as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.” Daily Thought Pad: Obama's Harvard Years: Questions Swirl




“But when you’re watching this in the campaign, and you’re onto this story, you’re saying, “Why isn’t anyone in the major media asking how it is that this radical anti-Semite, Khalid al Mansour, was pushing Obama into Harvard twenty years before the election?” Isn’t this worth investigating, this connection? No it wasn’t—it was worth burying…But they just buried that whole story, and when I saw that—I mean, you know this, and you and Accuracy Media have been confronting this for years, how they bury stories that they simply don’t want to share with the rest of the world.”
Obama Deconstructed: An Interview with Jack Cashill





Or…put it this way: why would a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist, and the Saudis….want to see Obama as President?




5. Jump to 2009….Obama as President…time to re-pay for all the help: President Barack Obama delivers a speech at American University in Cairo, Egypt, that “promised a new beginning with Muslim and Arab countries.”



“Obama gave front-row seats to Muslim Brotherhood in 2009 Cairo Speech” Obama gave front-row seats to Muslim Brotherhood in 2009 Cairo Speech





Know anything about this group favored by Hussein Obama?

The Nazis were largely responsible for the creation of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, the first modern mass movement of political Islam (1928): they hoped to use the Brotherhood against the British in the Middle East.
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 60,
and John Loftus, ‘The Muslim Brotherhood,
The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and al-Qaeda


Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, was a devout admirer of Adolf Hitler.http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28588







"The Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians". Poole, Patrick, (26 March 2007). "Mainstreaming the Muslim Brotherhood". FrontPage Magazine. p. 39.

6."Obama White House Declares Muslim Brotherhood Is Not a Terrorist OrganizationLatest Blog Posts | CBN.com
"The Muslim Brotherhood called for “a long, uncompromising jihad” in Egypt just days after a delegation of the Islamist group’s key leaders and allies met with the State Department, according to an official statement released this week.

Just days after a delegation that included two top Brotherhood leaders was hosted at the State Department, the organization released an official statement calling on its supporters to “prepare” for jihad, according to an independent translation of the statement first posted on Tuesday."
Open Jihad Declared in Egypt Following State Dept. Meeting with Muslim Brotherhood-Aligned Leaders


7. What is the reason behind these lies that Obama released on an unsuspecting public:

And for the next item in this fully documented and linked, thesis:


Obama “told you that radical Islamist terrorism does not stem from ideology.” Pompeo, at site of Obama's address to Muslim world, rebukes his legacy: 'Age of self-inflicted American shame is over'



“Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre” https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/obama-says-we-are-to-blame-not-islamic-terrorism-for-orlando-massacre/




“Isis is not about Islam, says Obama”
Subscribe to read | Financial Times




“Obama on ISIS: ‘They’re not an existential threat to us’”
Obama on ISIS: 'They're not an existential threat to us'




If Obama weren't exactly what I have revealed him to be.....why would he posit those lies??????




8. As President, Obama actually worked to establish the Muslim Brotherhood in control of Egypt, known as the ‘army of the Arabs.’

When the people of Egypt refused the fundamentalism that Obama represented, he actually cut off aid to Egypt.


When the Egyptian people declined to be governed by the 7th century savages, the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama had a fit:

"The U.S. government has decided privately to act as if the military takeover of Egypt was a coup, temporarily suspending most forms of military aid, despite deciding not to announce publicly a coup determination one way or the other, according to a leading U.S. senator.
In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend the disbursement of most direct military aid, the delivery of weapons to the Egyptian military, and some forms of economic aid to the Egyptian government while it conducts a broad review of the relationship."
Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt - The Daily Beast



"…Obama administration used the language of “moderate Islamists” to describe the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and he called Iran’s President Rouhani, a “moderate” reformist, despite the rise of human rights violations in Iran on Rouhani’s watch.

The Muslim Brotherhood, on the other hand was better known for sponsoring terrorist proxies and ideological movements that reflected its Islamist ideology. "
Why did the Obama administration support Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood?



Why would some Muslims not want President al-Sisi in place of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, who Obama favored?

“In the small village of al-Ur, in the south of Egypt, a cathedral dedicated to the 21 Copts beheaded in 2015 by the Islamic State in Libya was inaugurated in February.

Financed by the government, the new church is part of the strategy of President ‘Abd al Fattah al-Sisi, who will run for a second term in office in an election in March, to strengthen the alliance with the Coptic Church.

… the current President, ‘Abd al Fattah al-Sisi, who wanted to publicly renew the pact with a majestic ceremony. On January 6, 2018, on the occasion of the Coptic Christmas, the current Egyptian rais inaugurated with Patriarch Tawadros II the new cathedral that, according to the President’s intentions, should become the largest Christian church in the Middle East.” From Nasser to Sisi, the Difficult Balance of the Copts




Sisi......embracing Christians......no Islamist President could abide that!!!!!!!


9. In his battle to abet the creation of a Muslim Caliphate, Obama clearing the field for the creation of ISIS by refusing to leave any troops as a counterweight in Iraq

"With regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should be a status of forces agreement,” Romney told Obama as the two convened on the Lynn University campus in Boca Raton, Fla., that October evening.

“That’s not true,” Obama interjected. “Oh, you didn’t want a status of forces agreement?” Romney asked as an argument ensued.“No,” Obama said. “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.”
Obama Suddenly No Longer Interested in Taking Credit for Ending Iraq War | FrontPage Magazinehttp://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dg...erested-in-taking-credit-for-ending-iraq-war/




"The toll wreaked by his disengagement from the world and retreat from the use of American influence is severe. While ISIS expands its reach with summary executions possibly running into the thousands, Obama is left to offload onto Maliki all responsibility for the chaos that’s happened and all that’s to come.

That's the easy way for Obama to escape admitting that he blew it."
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/obama-wrought-article-1.1832083#ixzz35TDXzhJC




[Obama] “… underestimated the tenacity and viciousness of radical Islamism, a debauched strain of the faith that seeks to upend every other form of worship or governance. ISIS drove to the outskirts of Baghdad as America hesitated. They raped and pillaged and murdered tens of thousands of innocents. They birthed a caliphate across Syria and Iraq and launched terror attacks that killed all across continents.”
WATCH: Pompeo Delivers Rip-Snorting Speech In Cairo, Eviscerates Obama





….did you know Hussein installed ISIS-supporting Islamist as senior adviser in Homeland Security???


Would an American do this?????
Not hardly.

10. Then, there’s this: Obama’s support for the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism, the maniacs waiting for 12th Imam to immolate the entire world? An accident? Or based on his faith?
Obama made certain that America showed no support for the ‘Green Revolution’ when the people of Iran protested the savage mullah’s…


“[Obama’s] “reluctance, to wield our influence kept us silent as the people of Iran rose up against the mullahs in Tehran in the Green Revolution. The ayatollahs and their henchmen murdered, jailed, and intimidated freedom-loving Iranians, and they wrongly blamed America for this unrest when it was their own tyranny that had fueled it. Emboldened, the regime spread its cancerous influence to Yemen, to Iraq, to Syria, and still further into Lebanon.”

"... new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support."
Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail



Barack Obama, the #1 funder of radical Islamic fundamentalism and of the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism, in the history of the world.

“US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran” https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html



And, in a textbook example of obstruction of justice, Obama squashed a Justice Department case against Iran and Hezbollah for selling $1 billion of cocaine in the United States.




And contrary to all of his promises not to do so, and in contravention of the non-proliferation agreement that is our policy, Hussein Obama guaranteed nuclear weapons to Iran....

NPR wrote that they were restricted for 10 years:
"Perhaps the biggest unknown is what happens to that breakout time once some of the terms of this deal start to expire 10 and 15 years from now.
In an interview with NPR after the framework of this agreement was reached, President Obama conceded that "at that point the breakout times would have shrunk almost down to zero."

But this deal, Obama argued at the time, buys the United States at least a decade."
6 Things You Should Know About The Iran Nuclear Deal


And that was written four years ago.




There was never....NEVER....any reason to allow the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism to have nuclear weapons.

Unless one was infatuated with the idea of ‘a Muslim Bomb!’


And who would favor that?? A Muslim, perhaps.
Hussein Obama.

11. In so very many ways, Islamofascists and Democrats share a nexus, thus putting Obama in the proverbial ‘catbird seat.’
Here is one of those ways: anti-Semitism.




Who are the eternal targets of Islamists.

Jews.

What is the only country that Obama sent paid apparatchiks to target and destabilize?


“Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu” Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu


“During Israel’s 2015 elections, the Obama administration — led by Secretary of State John Kerry — illegally intervened when they attempted to defeat the reelection of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by covertly funneling State Department grants to opposition groups. The Obama administration detested Netanyahu due to his refusal to cave into Palestinian demands, a group that even refused to recognize the existence of Israel.”
Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples

And who are Obama’s pals?????

Obama-Farrakhan photo cover-up
Obama-Farrakhan photo cover-up | Tulsa Today



12. Anyone recall the hidden tape of Obama with noted anti-Semite Rashid Khalidi?

"The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape
At the time Khalidi, a PLO adviser turned University of Chicago professor, was headed east to Columbia. There he would take over the University’s Middle East-studies program (which he has since maintained as a bubbling cauldron of anti-Semitism) and assume the professorship endowed in honor of Edward Sayyid, another notorious terror apologist."
The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape | National Review

13. Remember this, by Obama, in service to his faith:
Obama Saying 'Islam has been Woven into the Fabric of our Country Since its Founding'





Not hardly.



They were enemies of the United States from before the Barbary War.

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they inquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

"American Peace Commissioners to John Jay," March 28, 1786, "Thomas Jefferson Papers," Series 1. General Correspondence. 1651–1827, Library of Congress. LoC: March 28, 1786




But a Muslim is allowed to lie if it benefits the faith.

Even if he is the President of the United States.

14. All of the indicia that I have provided in this thread are true. Proof of same is that the Democrat serfs who evinced their ire at it, have been unable to show otherwise.


And, taken collectively, they provide undeniable truth wabout Hussein Obama: he is either Muslim, or wishes Islam to take over Western Civilization.


There is no other possible conclusion possible.



But wait! There’s more!



All of the things Obama has done to advance Islam pales in comparison to his gargantuan efforts to strengthen the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism: Iran.


As important as Obama’s guaranteeing nuclear weapons to Iran is who rule Iran: these are maniacs who believe that worldwide conflagration will lead to the return of the Muslim Messiah.



Their foreign policy of Iran is aimed at world domination under the leadership of the 12th Imam.

The Hidden Imam, as he is also known by his followers, will only return after a period of cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed – what Christians call the Apocalypse –


“ The hidden Imam who is expected to return....
....beware of doubting, for to doubt the order of God, the Mighty, the Sublime, is apostasy (Kufr). Ibn Khaldun also states that “ When imprisoned with his mother in the house, he entered a sort of well or pit in the house that his family occupies at Samarrah, Iraq, and there he disappeared, but he is to come forth at the end of the age to fill the earth with justice”.
The Twelfth Imam, Muhammad ibn al-Hasan (Al-Mahdi-Sahibuz Zaman) (The hidden Imam who is expected to return)




From the NYTimes:


“We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” Cult of Death



If Obama were not a secret Muslim, why would he be supporting this????


15. What a generous fellow, Obama, when it comes to rewarding his co-religionists.


When it comes to Iran, the 7th century homicidal maniacs…

a. He sends them pallets loaded with cash

b. He guarantees them nuclear weapons

c. He removes the sanctions that were killing them

d. He obstructs justice, the DoJ case against Iran’s proxy, Hezbollah, for selling $1 billion of cocaine in the US

e. And….he provides them with the fruits of America’s technological achievements, to make them more formidable as enemies to America….our drone technology.



Obama as President turned over, directly to the 7th century savages, our latest and most technologically advanced, surveillance drone, the RQ-170 Sentinel.....
...of course, by extension, turned it over to Russia and China, as well.
When the drone crash landed in Iran...that's 'Death To America Iran'.....Obama let them keep it.

Answer: it is just one more of the copious and generous gifts from the man Democrats/Liberals called the Messiah, and God and Jesus.
Methinks the reference was to the wrong religion.




"President Obama said on Monday that the United States had asked Iran to return an American surveillance drone that the Iranians say they captured on Dec. 4. It was Mr. Obama’s first public comment about the drone, a remote-controlled spying aircraft,...
...Obama was answering this question: “And speaking of Iran, are you concerned that it will be able to weaken America’s national security by discovering intelligence from the fallen drone that it captured?”
Obama Says America Asked Iran to Return Its Drone





16. But...but......what could he have done?????

This:
"... otherwise I would not explain why the RQ-170 was not remotely destroyed with a kill-switch reportedly used on such systems to prevent them from going in the wrong hands. Such self-destruction systems are designed to bring down the drone should its pilot lose satellite link from the mobile ground control station.

The stealthy UAS (Unmanned Aerial System) is one of the most precious of the U.S. arsenal..."
Iran seizes a U.S. Stealth Drone by taking over controls. Maybe… And what about that Predator virus?


"....It was “standard procedure” for US forces to recover or destroy any drones that are lost, ..."
Iran shows off captured US drone

Unless you were a deep cover mole with the ability to reward your....'allies’ in the ummah (Ummah (Arabic: أمة‎ [ˈʊm.mæ]) is an Arabic word meaning "community").





Any doubt where Hussein Obama’s affections lie?

Soooo……wadda’ ya’ think……Obama, a crypto-Islamist?????

Definitely.
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17. From the start, Obama was Muslim. Here, Politifact verifies this:

Know the quote attributed to Aristotle….“Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”

In no case it that more revealing than the life of Hussein Obama.
“…Obama's father was from Africa, and Obama has said his father was born a Muslim.
Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather from 1967 to 1971, approximately from the ages of 6 to 10.

…Indonesia is a Muslim country, and Obama attended a public school there, ….substantiated evidence indicates Obama attended a public school that taught a small amount of mainstream Islam. The news reports say that Obama's registration form indicates his religion was Muslim,…”
Obama attended an Indonesian public school



Then, Obama chooses as his spiritual guide, the anti-American pastor-nee-Muslim, Jeremiah Wright.

“Long before Reverend Wright entered the national stage, Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, in the March 19, 2007 issue, dropped this little gem:

Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”

The racist paranoia of AIDS being developed by white America to kill blacks and other inexcusable statements are from the same framework of the NOI and Farrakhan. In fact:

In 1984, Wright was one of the inner circle that traveled with Farrakhan to visit Libyan strongman Col. Muammar Khadafy.

…why did Wright’s church put the racist and anti-Semitic Farrakhan on the cover of its magazine Trumpet? Why did Trinity Church post:
a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group’s official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America’s Declaration of Independence[?]


The three points above show a consistent pattern of Wright parroting not only the language and but also the attitude of the Nation of Islam.

The Reverend Wright may no longer be a Muslim, but he clearly embraces Hamas, Minister Farrakhan and others because they dovetail with his established world view, as with other syncretic religions.

Reverend Wright’s hate speeches are a glimpse of someone who has blended Nation of Islam and Black Nationalist Liberation Theology into a subversive Christianity,…”
Jeremiah Wright Was a Muslim: Why That Matters


A comfortable arena for our Muslim former President.

Of course, the Left's coterie have been unable to confront the reason for this thread: proof that Hussein Obama is a closet Muslim and/or a crypto-Islamist.





Soooo.....let's get back on course, as it appears painful for those who were snookered by Obama.







18. Obama, a crypto-Islamist, was attracted to another who claimed to be Christian, but honored and supported Muslims like Louis Farrakhan….Jeremiah Wright.



In fact, Hussein chose the title of his book from a Wright sermon:



“… the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s “The Audacity to Hope” sermon, originally delivered in 1988, as published in “What Makes You So Strong? Sermons of Joy and Strength from Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.” Wright’s ‘Audacity to Hope’ Sermon









Now….if Wright is a Christian….as Obama claims to be, too….how to explain this:



“Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah



Jeremiah Wright declares that the God he worships is the same as Allah, the God of the Muslims.” Muslim Brotherhood – Jeremiah Wright Declares that Yahweh is Allah









You've just admitted you couldn't refute a single one of my examples of the behavior of a Muslim....]


Another chance?


Fire up both of your cerebral neurons and see if you can dream up a scenario that would fit those examples by a non-Muslim.