Explosion in Oslo

[alexa]

pretty good running synopsis here;

note;

Update at 10:14 a.m. ET: Although the source of the blast is unclear, Al-Jazeera TV notes that Norwegian prosecutors on Tuesday filed a terrorism charge against Mullah Krekar, founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam. Mullah Krekar is accused of threatening a former minister, Erna Solberg, with death, Al-Jazeera says.

17 dead in Oslo bombing, shootings; Norwegian held - On Deadline - USATODAY.com

The Al-Jazeera article that that came from also says

Independent Norwegian television TV2 reported, without disclosing its sources, that the detained man has links to right-wing extremism.

Deadly twin attacks shock Norway - Europe - Al Jazeera English

They have a man or the man. That's the important thing. Norway say we may get more information tomorrow.

 

[WillowTree]

This report says the site of the explosion was a tabloid newspaper.
Explosion at tabloid newspaper VG near Norwegian PM's office | Herald Sun

Did they print cartoons?

Could be....I know that some Norwegian papers printed the Danish cartoons.

What do old white Christisans care about cartoons?

 

[Ravi]

Did they print cartoons?

Could be....I know that some Norwegian papers printed the Danish cartoons.

What do old white Christisans care about cartoons?

Nothing. But apparently this man is a home grown terrorist with no ties to anyone in the terrorist world.

In other words, he's nothing but a disgruntled fucktard.

At this point, no one is reporting what his problem was.

 

[martybegan]

Could be....I know that some Norwegian papers printed the Danish cartoons.

What do old white Christisans care about cartoons?

Nothing. But apparently this man is a home grown terrorist with no ties to anyone in the terrorist world.

In other words, he's nothing but a disgruntled fucktard.

At this point, no one is reporting what his problem was.

As the reports come in the chance he's a righty/facist type appear to be increasing. I thought Norway got rid of those guys when they hung Vidkun Quisling.

Although with the problems they been having with being unable to integrate thier immigrant middle eastern population I guess a backlash would be inevitable, if this turns out to be the case.

Could still be a jihaddi, or even a good old fashioned wacko, but if a wacko a pretty well coordinated one.

 

[Ravi]

What do old white Christisans care about cartoons?

Nothing. But apparently this man is a home grown terrorist with no ties to anyone in the terrorist world.

In other words, he's nothing but a disgruntled fucktard.

At this point, no one is reporting what his problem was.

As the reports come in the chance he's a righty/facist type appear to be increasing. I thought Norway got rid of those guys when they hung Vidkun Quisling.

Although with the problems they been having with being unable to integrate thier immigrant middle eastern population I guess a backlash would be inevitable, if this turns out to be the case.

Could still be a jihaddi, or even a good old fashioned wacko, but if a wacko a pretty well coordinated one.

I would be happier if it was a jihadist. At least we can all agree to hate them. I think if he turns out to be something else we will just use it to bash each other over the head.

 

[martybegan]

Nothing. But apparently this man is a home grown terrorist with no ties to anyone in the terrorist world.

In other words, he's nothing but a disgruntled fucktard.

At this point, no one is reporting what his problem was.

As the reports come in the chance he's a righty/facist type appear to be increasing. I thought Norway got rid of those guys when they hung Vidkun Quisling.

Although with the problems they been having with being unable to integrate thier immigrant middle eastern population I guess a backlash would be inevitable, if this turns out to be the case.

Could still be a jihaddi, or even a good old fashioned wacko, but if a wacko a pretty well coordinated one.

I would be happier if it was a jihadist. At least we can all agree to hate them. I think if he turns out to be something else we will just use it to bash each other over the head.

Not everyone. A righty will split the board down the middle, a jihaddi will still have his usual supporters, who I probably don't have to name.

 

[DiAnna]

A horrible pair of tragedies for the Norweigians. My heart goes out to them.

 

[Ravi]

This is ironic, considering the first several responses to this thread.

Suspect in deadly Norway attacks named - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

 

[KissMy]

Norway horror: 80 die in camp shooting + 7 in blast

It is like shooting fish in a barrel when people do not pack a gun to take out a terrorist.

 

[Chris]

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and stock analysis as interests.

Anders Behring Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting

 

[QUENTIN]

So it was a blond-haired, blue-eyed, Norwegian conservative Christian who perpetrated the terrorist attack.

Do those who mocked the idea this could have been anyone but Muslim extremists have anything to say about that now?

 

[Jos]

Helpers of the Global Jihad have since issued a retraction of their earlier statement claiming that they caused the bombing in central Oslo.

An Islamic extremist alleging to be Abu Suleiman Al-Nasser originally claimed responsibility for the attacks. However, Iraqi security forces claimed to have shot dead a man named Al-Nasser Lideen Allah Abu Suleiman, who had well-documented links to Al-Qaeda, in February this year. It is not unheard of for Al-Qaeda extremists to claim responsibility for acts of terrorism which are not their own.

The ‘Helpers of Global Jihad’ group, of which al-Nasser is a member, originally made the claims in an email circular issued to various sources. The group does not appear to have any past history.

Islamic extremist claims responsibility for Oslo bombing, group retracts / News / The Foreigner — Norwegian News in English.
I wonder where this rumor started?

 

[waltky]

Norway's 9/11...

At least 80 dead in shooting, suspect held
July 22,`11 (UPI) -- A suspect was being held in two explosions at a Norwegian government complex in Oslo and a shooting at a youth camp that left at least 80 dead, police said.

Police were questioning a 32-year-old suspect in both attacks, the BBC reported. A witness told Norwegian state broadcaster NRK a man wearing a police uniform fired on campers on Utoya island, The Daily Telegraph reported. Reports of the number of dead in the explosions ranged from seven to 16, with 15 injured. The explosions in Oslo appeared to be a bomb attack, The New York Times reported.

The Times said a terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (the Helpers of the Global Jihad), issued a statement claiming responsibility. The Wall Street Journal said al-Qaida offshoots are in Norway and neighboring Sweden. The groups' leaders considered Osama bin Laden a religious and philosophical guide, but have worked independently. However, police said a man suspected in the shooting at the camp -- a Norwegian described as tall and blond -- was also linked with the bomb attack, the BBC reported.

Ole Tarp, a reporter for NRK, told the BBC there were reports the suspect was armed with a handgun, an automatic weapon and a shotgun. "He travelled on the ferry boat from the mainland over to that little inland island posing as a police officer, saying he was there to do research in connection with the bomb blasts," Tarp said. "He asked people to gather round and then he started shooting, so these young people fled into the bushes and woods and some even swam off the island to get to safety."

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, whose Oslo offices were damaged by the explosion, called the attacks "bloody and cowardly." He told reporters at a news conference his nation has been "shaken by evil" but its democracy and ideals will survive, the BBC reported. "We are a small nation and a proud nation," he said. "No-one will bomb us to silence no-one will shoot us to silence." Calling Norwegian television, he said all government ministers were believed to be safe but police had advised him not to reveal his current location. Officials said some of the damaged buildings were on fire and people were still inside.

Read more: World News - UPI.com

See also:

Obama Expresses Condolences to Norway Over Attacks
July 22, 2011 - President Barack Obama has expressed his condolences to the Norwegian people over the bomb explosion that devastated a government building in the Norwegian capital, Oslo. Mr. Obama was briefed on the explosion in Oslo, and on reports of shootings at a youth camp outside the Norwegian capital, by his counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan.

The explosion in Oslo hit the headquarters building that houses the office of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg. The prime minister was not present at the location, and none of his staff were injured. It's not known if the two incidents were related. Mr. Obama spoke about the incidents in remarks to reporters after his meeting in the Oval Office Friday with New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"I wanted to personally extend my condolence to the people of Norway, and it's a reminder that the entire international community has a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring, and that we have to work cooperatively together both on intelligence and in terms of prevention of these kinds of horrible attacks," he said. Mr. Obama said the U.S. will provide any support to Norway as officials there investigate the incidents.

Prime Minister Key also spoke about the situation in Norway. "If it is an act of global terrorism I think it shows that no country, large or small, is immune from that risk, and that is why New Zealand plays its part in Afghanistan as we try and join others like the United States in making the world a safer place," he said. The separate incident occurred Friday on an island off Norway's west coast, north of Oslo, where a gathering of the prime minister's Labor Party youth section was taking place. Initial reports said a man dressed as a policeman opened fire. Norway has been a participant in the NATO military campaign in Libya against the forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, and has had a small contingent of troops in the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.

In his remarks, President Obama said he and Prime Minister Key discussed security cooperation and New Zealand's contributions in Afghanistan. The president also praised the resilience of New Zealand's people in the wake of earthquakes that hit the city of Christchurch. Mr. Obama said they also discussed a wide range of regional issues, including those being discussed by ministers at an Asian security meeting on the Indonesian island of Bali.

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[CitizenPained]

Has anyone blamed Mossad yet?

 

[Colin]

What did the Wegians ever do to anybody...

They tell mean jokes about the swedes.

Fucking funny ain't it! 87 dead and you think it appropriate to make jokes. You sick bastard!

 

[Jos]

The terrorist who bombed downtown Oslo and shot numerous children at summer camp was an Anti-Islam nationalist:

In online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.

Breivik has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

Anders Breivik Behring has also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.

Washington's Blog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjordman

Fjordman blogged on his own web log in 2005, giving it up at the end of the year. According to the site counter, by May 2007 the blog had more than a million hits.[1] Fjordman has since continued writing, "guesting" in other blogs such as Brussels Journal, Gates of Vienna and islam-watch.org. Fjordman published a compilation of his articles in print via lulu.com in November 2008.

Fjordman was widely regarded by other blogs critical of Islam as an expert in his field. Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch calls him the "great European essayist"[2] and "the superb European writer".[3] He is generally referred to as the "noted"[4][5][6] blogger.

His articles, which are often lengthy, are widely quoted in various blogs and right-wing sites critical of Islam, such as Global Politician,[7] FrontPageMag,[8] Jihad Watch,[9] Brussels Journal,[10] Faith Freedom International,[11] Little Green Footballs,[12] Free Republic and Daily Pundit[13] among others, and quite often printed verbatim. Earlier, he also wrote sporadically for the Norwegian site Document.no.[14]

He has also been cited in books and articles as a representative of anti-Muslim viewpoints.[15][16][17][18] He contributed with an appendix in the 2010 book by Ole Jørgen Anfindsen, Selvmordsparadigmet – hvordan politisk korrekthet ødelegger samfunnet (lit. "The Suicide Paradigm – how political correctness destroys society").[19]
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[alexa]

update from the Guardian.

A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems that this is not linked to any international terrorist organisations". The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center."

The motive was unknown, but both attacks were in areas connected to the ruling Labour party government. The youth camp, about 20 miles northwest of Oslo, is organised by the party's youth wing, and the prime minister had been scheduled to speak there on Saturday.

The blast in Oslo left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings. Most of the windows in the block where the prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, and his administration work were shattered.

The police official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the Oslo bombing occurred at 3.26pm local time, and the camp shootings began one to two hours later. The official said the gunman used automatic weapons and handguns, and that there was at least one unexploded device at the youth camp that a police bomb disposal team and military experts were disarming.

Norway attack: at least 80 die in Utøya shooting, seven in Oslo bombing | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[alexa]

from Associated Press

National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told NRK that the suspected gunman's Internet postings "suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen."

Andersen said the suspect posted on websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies. He did not describe the websites in any more details.

A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

91 killed in Norway island massacre, capital blast | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[Chris]

The Norwegian Timothy McVey.

 

[strollingbones]

91 kids gone.....i cant imagine the horror.....

our area is small....91 kids would take about all our kids....