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expect Rams to be back in LA next year.
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meanwhile in st louis.
http://www.kmov.com/sports/Council-...-293994761.html
NFL Los Angeles Relocation Rams Are Front-runners After Hollywood Park Stadium Vote But Questions Remain
ESPN Inglewood approves stadium plans
I think it all goes down after the NFL meetings at the end of March. They vote and that will determine whether SK goes rogue or not. With the announcement being made after that meeting.
Lets see, inglewood stadium was fast tracked, Rams cancel fan events in STL for 2015, ESPN reports SK will move with or w/o NFL approval.....isnt everything pointing to Rams in LA for 2015? Why is Natl media still dismissing 2015, and only worrying about 2016?
I can see where SK waits for SD and Oak stadium situations to shake out in the next 30-90 days and then moves the rams in may/june.
Major national media survival depends on the NFL teet.
They dismiss everything Adam. They totally ignored the fact the Inglewood City Council was going to ratify the stadium and accept it. Amazing some of them have jobs.
Yep, then they make Carson a national headline.
I am very interested to see if some positive stadium info out of SD & OAK comes out in the next few months if SK doesnt just up and bolt for LA.
it's the Wild West these days...anything can happen!!
Mark Fabiani on Chargers stadium efforts
A federal judge rules against the NFL in the Peterson case, how do you think they would rule in an NFL anti-trust case?
look at #7
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...17?v=1&vc=1
The NFL Returning To Los Angeles Now Imminent - Forbes
Bill Koltes - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Even CBS knows what's up! They have the "Los Angeles Rams" ranked #7 in the 2017 power rankings, LOL... This was posted on the KRISTL page which made me LOL and then the comments they are making on it made me LMAO!!! smile emoticonhttp://mweb.cbssports.com/…/future-...rankings-packe…
Leigh Steinberg what the heck? expansion? fight for your team.
Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
I go to Disneyland once a week wearing my LA Rams gear! Going tomorrow! The Rams' fanbase is alive and well there! Always get positive comments!
Industry NFL stadium proposal overshadowed by Inglewood Carson
If the Rams are FORCED to stay in St. Louis for the 2015 season KNOWING that the team is moving, that will be ecomomically damaging to the franchise and that could also be grounds for an antitrust lawsuit.
Purposely hurting tickets sales through force by the league in staying in a location that the owner no longer want to be at or a fan base that will no longer buy tickets or merchandise can be used as a reason for the suit!
Thus, no lame duck should be ENFORCED, especially now that the Inglewood stadium has the green light! Just make a lease arrangement with the Coliseum or better yet the Rose Bowl and move the team back for the 2015 season!
Let's get this thing rolling Stan!!
Report Rams L.A. plans met with quiet applause by NFL ProFootballTalk
PFT Live Eric Grubman Realistic timetable for NFL in LA is 2016 ProFootballTalk
interesting,the bitches brother wants the rams to move back.
http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...tiere/24078293/
hypocrisy of Gov. Nixon
''The NFL teams are separate, independent businesses that compete with one another on and off the field,'' Mr. Nixon says. ''If the other NFL teams and the Rams' competitors act as a cartel to stop them from doing business in the city of their choice, it would be a classic restraint of trade. We're not going to stand by on the sidelines and let the smoke-filled-room cartel of the NFL take away what we've earned.''
Attorney General Nixon in 1995!!
must Listen..
new ram stuff
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/…/po...speaking-previ…
He also expects there to be some public vote in the city to extend bonds going toward the Edward Jones Dome as a way to pay for a new football stadium.
This is the ****ing death knell for stl
Inglewood s NFL stadium plan approval biggest step yet in 20-year bid for return to L.A.
San Antonio may be in better field position as Raiders run out of option plays - San Antonio Business Journal
NFL eyes return to Los Angeles - The Lamron
according to this idiot,its all leverage,butts said it was going toget ugly,he called it.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hil...umn.html#page=2
Dear AEG
ALL STADIUMS ARE AT RISK, EVEN THE BS YOU WANT TO BUILD IN DOWNTOWN LA,WHICH BY THE WAY IS AN EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR TERTORIST THAN INGLEWOOD. NOW PLEASE STFU AND DEAL WITHOLD IT!
Local business man to help keep Raiders in Oakland - KUSI News - San Diego CA
The Missouri Torch Sen. Ryan Silvey Gets It Right Nixon Doesn t Have Authority to Issue New Bonds
How NFL stadium promoters are snowing the city of Inglewood - LA Times
The people of LA deserve to know more. More specifically the t - Los Angeles News FOX 11 LA KTTV
Inglewood Council Rams Through NFL Stadium Proposal NBC Southern California
Inglewood Mayor James Butts It s a great day The Beast 980
Is the old Q the new Q UTSanDiego.com Mobile
Inglewood mayor blasts terrorist risk report of NFL stadium
Hey Ramily just started a new business was wondering if I could get some help getting the word out to help expand my business. we want to help as many people as we can with their skin issues so everyone can be happy and proud of their skin. Expanding my business and the Rams coming back to LA are my two wishes for 2015!!! Crystalhayes.nerium.com
#Ramsnation #Ramsfan4life #BringBackMyRams
At an event near Inglewood today and watching the planes approaching LAX WELL NORTH of the proposed stadium site!!!
These airplanes using runway North are NOWHERE near the proposed stadium site and coming in WELL NORTH of the Forum!
Additionally, the South runway approach is just South of the old Hollywood Park property and not anywhere near where the stadium will be situated on the property!
NO FAA issues here that I can see!
AEG Invokes Terrorism In Bid To Halt Rival Inglewood Stadium Project via Popist
Terry Crews -- RAIDERS FANS THREATENED MY WIFE ... When I Played for the Rams - YouTube
Allysia Finley Turning Fantasy Football Into Reality in Los Angeles - WSJ
Raiders thinking small when it comes to Oakland stadium - Inside Bay Area
new rams stuff
john clayton 710 ESPN seattle at the 20:40 mark says the Rams are coming back to LA.
http://icestream.bonnint.net/seattl...22815_2_356.mp3
I like #7 here.
Future NFL Power Rankings Packers Colts will rule NFL in 2017 - CBSSports.com
new ram stuff
stan dont give a **** about st louis.
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/da...development.php
Dave Boling Los Angeles raises stakes in NFL relocation roulette Dave Boling The News Tribune
Joe Gandolfo - Something interesting I found when I was... Facebook
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Something interesting I found when I was going through some boxes. I found some back issues of Lindy’s Football Annuals and I found the 1995 edition. Included is an article about the Rams move to St. Louis and a re-cap of how it came about. I thought considering that history looks to repeat and that our St. Louis counterparts keep making some outrageous claims, I thought it would be good to refresh ourselves with some pertinent facts.
“When Carolina and Jacksonville were awarded National Football league franchises in the fall of 1993, St. Louis was left out in the cold.
It appeared that the city, which had been without NFL football since the Cardinals left for Phoenix in 1988, would have a long wait before the sport would return.
A fractured ownership situation that included murky questions concerning the lease for a new stadium being built in downtown St. Louis, made it seem unlikely that the city was capable of attracting another team.
However, several months later, when the Los Angeles Rams let it be known they were interested in leaving the West Coast, St. Louis swung into action. A settlement was negotiated over the lease problem. And a group that dubbed itself FANS, Inc., with former U.S. Senator Thomas Eagleton at the helm, began wooing the Rams.
What followed were months of negotiations. At several points, impasses were reached. But Eagleton persisted. In St. Louis” favor was the new stadium, which would be ready midway through the ’95 season.
Finally on Jan 17, the Rams announced their intention to move to St. Louis. All St. Louis had to do was sell 46,000 personal seat licenses (PSL’s) which gives the buyer the right to then buy tickets. That would raise more than $74 million that would be used to facilitate the move, including paying off about $27 million on bonds the Rams would owe on Anaheim Stadium if they moved.
The fans of St. Louis responded in remarkable fashion. Orders were received for 72,000 licenses – within two weeks. The only bad news was that many fans would be shut out.
All that was then needed was approval by NFL owners. That seemed to be a slam dunk, That wasn’t the case. Many owners wanted a piece of the PSL pie. The league wanted the Rams to contribute to a stadium trust fund that would help replace them in Los Angeles. There was concern over Fox television, which would be losing its NFC team in the L.A. market.
When no agreement was reached at league meetings in Phoenix in March, owners voted against the move. Commissioner Paul Tagliabue insisted “money is the least of the issues.” Yet, negotiations continued.
One month later, at a special meeting in Dallas, the move was approved after the Rams agreed to pay $46 million (up from an offer of $26 million). Still, Tagliabue continued to insist the decision wasn’t about money.
“It did not come down to a money deal with the Rams,” Tagliabue said, after the owners voted 23-6-1 to approve the move. “That is a completely erroneous implication and had very little to do with it. There will be no money paid to the other member clubs of the league. There is a payment called for to the league which may go to NFL charities, or may go to a stadium trust fund. But (money) was the least of our concerns.
However, the Rams had threatened to move anyway and file suit against the league. A successful antitrust suit against the league could have cost the owners more than $1 billion.
Even Tagliabue acknowledged, “The desire to have peace and not be at war was a big factor.”
Said Jonathan Kraft, son of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, “About five or six owners didn’t want to get the other owners into litigation, so they switched their votes.”
Which means, quite clearly, this was all about money. It doesn’t matter whose pocket the bucks go into. Money was the issue and money was at the core of every negotiation that took place in the entire process.
Aside from the $46 million, $29 million of which was considered a relocation fee (almost four times what Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell paid when he moved), the Rams agreed to pay 50 percent of any losses claimed by Fox TV up to $12.5 million. The Rams also agreed that if the NFL expands in the next 10 years and a team is not put the Los Angeles area, they will forego a $13 million expansion cut.
As it was, Rams club president John Shaw thought the cost prohibitive. He seemed to be looking forward to a fight.
“I advised Georgia (Frontiere) and Stan (Kroenke) not to accept the NFL’s offer,” Shaw said. “I thought it had become too pricey. But it’s their team and it was their decision to make.”
Kroenke, from Columbia, Mo., became a part-owner of the Rams when the move was approved, having bought 30 percent of the club for $60 million.
In the end, the owners, including Frontiere, wisely realized it was better to take/pay the money and run rather than risk a disruptive lawsuit. After all, we also know lawsuits cost a lot of…money. It was also clear the owners wanted to exact a pound of flesh from the Rams, whom they consider opportunists.
We all know no other NFL owner would have done the same if they had the chance. Right?
- Howard Balzer”
New NFL stadium in St. Louis Los Angeles for Rams Raiders Chargers The MMQB with Peter King
L.A. Flips The Script On The NFL Holds The Bargaining Power - Forbes
http://www.kmov.com/sports/headlines/New-St-Louis-NFL-Stadium-Renderings-Released-294677151.html
San Diego consults its civic playbook on stadium situation - LA Times
IM sure other have thought of this too but isnt it a bit backwards that The Sponos say the if the Rams move to Los Angeles it will take buisness way frolm them but Shareing a stadium with the Raiders in the same city wont ..
LA is a leverage play.andrew breit.
http://kfwbam.com/2015/03/02/andrew...-leverage-play/
Hello, Rams Fans. Diehard Sports Radio (Diehard Sports Radio Facebook> will be interviewing Andy Hogan at 7pm pacific, 10pm eastern sharp tonight for the latest happenings surrounding the Rams expected return to Los Angeles. You can listen in live through the link below or on the podcast beginning tomorrow. Enjoy the segment.
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Missouri takes a step toward right-to-work but proposal still faces uphill climb News1130
Stadium pep rally was nice wasn t enough UTSanDiego.com
Some people on this page need to relax and let the process play itself out. Waiting sucks but there is NO indication that Kroeneke is going to suddenly change his mind and stay in STL. The league knows it could lose this market permanently if we get played again. And they want back in here. As Roggin said, the next phase is the political posturing until the vote to relocate is made. And the posturing will get worse as the vote nears. Just enjoy the drama and relax. Either way. We'll get our team back.
new ram stuff
sucker tattoed on forehead.
http://www.101sports.com/2015/03/03...adium-meetings/
NFL gets updates on L.A. stadium plans The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
asshole.
NFL gets updates on L.A. stadium plans The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
agreeing with peters prediction
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/02/st-lo...os-angeles-nfl/
Fred Roggin keeps emphasizing that this is not a case of Carson vs Inglewood, and that the Carson project is just posturing by the Chargers/Raiders. Based on events i tend to believe this. I believe the Chargers want to be in SD, and the Raiders want to in Oakland. We need to just stay the course. SK will bring the Rams home. Pls dont let recent stories sway you of this.
New developments in Riverfront Stadium proposal FOX2now.com
Look Who is Hating on Inglewood s Stadium Deal The Beast 980
Sun peeking through stadium clouds UTSanDiego.com Mobile
Inglewood Mayor James T. Butts in Studio with Fred Roggin The Beast 980
Petco Park Builder Proposes Multi-Use Stadium Downtown - Times of San Diego
A quick estimation on what Stan Kronke would lose by keeping the Rams in Stl. A minimum of $1 billion in franchise value. $14 million in annual ticket sales (based on 18,000 potential ticket sales differential between the two plans). Nearly $3 million in concessions annually and around $1 million in parking($20 per person for concessions; grossly under valued. $25 per vehicle for parking). This does not include the fact that he would be on a lease and under control of the city of Stl or that he'll never host a Superbowl(s) or NCAA title game!
Senator Ryan Silvey
Backers of Carson NFL stadium file ballot initiative as first step - LA Times
Rams fans who didn t get stadium survey can request one Sports
Silvey seeks to restrict Nixon s authority to bond Rams stadium - The Missouri Times
Land for Carson stadium will be purchased this month ProFootballTalk
NFL teams and fan bases are classified by CITY, not STATE. The so-called California solution is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If Carson happens and Rams stay, the so-called California solution results in the following: Oakland pissed off and heartbroken, Oakland Raider history ended; SD pissed off and heartbroken 60+ yrs of SD Chargers bye bye- L.A. Pissed off that we're force fed 2 teams we don't want and not our 49 year legacy team we deserve. Hasn't the NFL seen any of the polls. Doesn't Fabiani and Spanos realize that the majority of the L.A. Area doesn't give two shits about the Chargers and worse may even hate them for screwing up a Rams homecoming??? WTF?
http://www.101sports.com/2015/03/05...randy-karraker/
sen silver OWNED randy karraker.
http://www.latimes.com/…/la-spw-car...itive-20150305…
This artcle by Nathan Fenno and Tim Logan of the L.A.Times intrigues me . They state that the city of Carson's signature gathering is expected to start next week for the ballot initiative that would change zoning to move forward with a 70,000-seat stadium in Carson . This signature gathering collusion could only rezone the area for a stadium , but it doesn't mean that the Stadium will begin construction by December . There's the question of a Environmental Impact Reports for the Carson stadium .
The ballot initiative that was passed by the Inglewood City Council for Stan Kroenke's 80,000 seat stadium was to add the 60 acre stadium to existing plans to develop the site by the Hollywood Park Land Company . Tuesday's Inglewood vote simply added the 60-acre stadium to Hollywood Park Land Company's 2009 plan to redevelop the former Hollywood Park racetrack site with homes, offices, stores, parks and open space, a hotel and a casino . So no new environmental impact reports , which are costly and often take months or even years , would be necessary.
The Carson stadium isn't a add on to anything . It is a brand new plan from square one , so a Environmental Impact Report would be necessary ? That being said , How can the Carson stadium start construction by December if it takes 18 to 24 months (from what i've researched) to complete a Environmental Impact Report ?
Now this BIG race that the media has fabricated to disrupt Stan Kroenke's Inglewood stadium from being built isn't looking much like a race at all . It's seems most likely that the Inglewood stadium could be finished and opened by the time the Carson stadium even clears a EIR , it if does at all . And whose to say by then if the Carson stadium would even be built ? This is exactly the same BS that Los Angeles fans have endured for over 20 years in getting a NFL franchise back to L.A.. In the end , the Chargers and Raiders will be running home with the Chargers extorting a new stadium from the City of San Diego and it's fans and , if St Louis is serious about building the Riverfront stadium , it might be the St Louis Raiders in 2018 .
Mar 3 Interviews with Adam Day and Scott Lewis about the Stadium Forum CHARGERS POWER HOUR on KLSD-AM
“When Carolina and Jacksonville were awarded National Football league franchises in the fall of 1993, St. Louis was left out in the cold.
It appeared that the city, which had been without NFL football since the Cardinals left for Phoenix in 1988, would have a long wait before the sport would return.
A fractured ownership situation that included murky questions concerning the lease for a new stadium being built in downtown St. Louis, made it seem unlikely that the city was capable of attracting another team.
However, several months later, when the Los Angeles Rams let it be known they were interested in leaving the West Coast, St. Louis swung into action. A settlement was negotiated over the lease problem. And a group that dubbed itself FANS, Inc., with former U.S. Senator Thomas Eagleton at the helm, began wooing the Rams.
What followed were months of negotiations. At several points, impasses were reached. But Eagleton persisted. In St. Louis” favor was the new stadium, which would be ready midway through the ’95 season.
Finally on Jan 17, the Rams announced their intention to move to St. Louis. All St. Louis had to do was sell 46,000 personal seat licenses (PSL’s) which gives the buyer the right to then buy tickets. That would raise more than $74 million that would be used to facilitate the move, including paying off about $27 million on bonds the Rams would owe on Anaheim Stadium if they moved.
The fans of St. Louis responded in remarkable fashion. Orders were received for 72,000 licenses – within two weeks. The only bad news was that many fans would be shut out.
All that was then needed was approval by NFL owners. That seemed to be a slam dunk, That wasn’t the case. Many owners wanted a piece of the PSL pie. The league wanted the Rams to contribute to a stadium trust fund that would help replace them in Los Angeles. There was concern over Fox television, which would be losing its NFC team in the L.A. market.
When no agreement was reached at league meetings in Phoenix in March, owners voted against the move. Commissioner Paul Tagliabue insisted “money is the least of the issues.” Yet, negotiations continued.
One month later, at a special meeting in Dallas, the move was approved after the Rams agreed to pay $46 million (up from an offer of $26 million). Still, Tagliabue continued to insist the decision wasn’t about money.
“It did not come down to a money deal with the Rams,” Tagliabue said, after the owners voted 23-6-1 to approve the move. “That is a completely erroneous implication and had very little to do with it. There will be no money paid to the other member clubs of the league. There is a payment called for to the league which may go to NFL charities, or may go to a stadium trust fund. But (money) was the least of our concerns.
However, the Rams had threatened to move anyway and file suit against the league. A successful antitrust suit against the league could have cost the owners more than $1 billion.
Even Tagliabue acknowledged, “The desire to have peace and not be at war was a big factor.”
Said Jonathan Kraft, son of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, “About five or six owners didn’t want to get the other owners into litigation, so they switched their votes.”
Which means, quite clearly, this was all about money. It doesn’t matter whose pocket the bucks go into. Money was the issue and money was at the core of every negotiation that took place in the entire process.
Aside from the $46 million, $29 million of which was considered a relocation fee (almost four times what Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell paid when he moved), the Rams agreed to pay 50 percent of any losses claimed by Fox TV up to $12.5 million. The Rams also agreed that if the NFL expands in the next 10 years and a team is not put the Los Angeles area, they will forego a $13 million expansion cut.
As it was, Rams club president John Shaw thought the cost prohibitive. He seemed to be looking forward to a fight.
“I advised Georgia (Frontiere) and Stan (Kroenke) not to accept the NFL’s offer,” Shaw said. “I thought it had become too pricey. But it’s their team and it was their decision to make.”
Kroenke, from Columbia, Mo., became a part-owner of the Rams when the move was approved, having bought 30 percent of the club for $60 million.
In the end, the owners, including Frontiere, wisely realized it was better to take/pay the money and run rather than risk a disruptive lawsuit. After all, we also know lawsuits cost a lot of…money. It was also clear the owners wanted to exact a pound of flesh from the Rams, whom they consider opportunists.
We all know no other NFL owner would have done the same if they had the chance. Right?
- Howard Balzer”
New NFL stadium in St. Louis Los Angeles for Rams Raiders Chargers The MMQB with Peter King
L.A. Flips The Script On The NFL Holds The Bargaining Power - Forbes
http://www.kmov.com/sports/headlines/New-St-Louis-NFL-Stadium-Renderings-Released-294677151.html
San Diego consults its civic playbook on stadium situation - LA Times
IM sure other have thought of this too but isnt it a bit backwards that The Sponos say the if the Rams move to Los Angeles it will take buisness way frolm them but Shareing a stadium with the Raiders in the same city wont ..
LA is a leverage play.andrew breit.
http://kfwbam.com/2015/03/02/andrew...-leverage-play/
Hello, Rams Fans. Diehard Sports Radio (Diehard Sports Radio Facebook> will be interviewing Andy Hogan at 7pm pacific, 10pm eastern sharp tonight for the latest happenings surrounding the Rams expected return to Los Angeles. You can listen in live through the link below or on the podcast beginning tomorrow. Enjoy the segment.
The Latest on the Rams Return to Los Angeles 03 03 by Diehard Sports Radio Sports Podcasts
Missouri takes a step toward right-to-work but proposal still faces uphill climb News1130
Stadium pep rally was nice wasn t enough UTSanDiego.com
Some people on this page need to relax and let the process play itself out. Waiting sucks but there is NO indication that Kroeneke is going to suddenly change his mind and stay in STL. The league knows it could lose this market permanently if we get played again. And they want back in here. As Roggin said, the next phase is the political posturing until the vote to relocate is made. And the posturing will get worse as the vote nears. Just enjoy the drama and relax. Either way. We'll get our team back.
new ram stuff
sucker tattoed on forehead.
http://www.101sports.com/2015/03/03...adium-meetings/
NFL gets updates on L.A. stadium plans The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
asshole.
NFL gets updates on L.A. stadium plans The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
agreeing with peters prediction
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/02/st-lo...os-angeles-nfl/
Fred Roggin keeps emphasizing that this is not a case of Carson vs Inglewood, and that the Carson project is just posturing by the Chargers/Raiders. Based on events i tend to believe this. I believe the Chargers want to be in SD, and the Raiders want to in Oakland. We need to just stay the course. SK will bring the Rams home. Pls dont let recent stories sway you of this.
New developments in Riverfront Stadium proposal FOX2now.com
Look Who is Hating on Inglewood s Stadium Deal The Beast 980
Sun peeking through stadium clouds UTSanDiego.com Mobile
Inglewood Mayor James T. Butts in Studio with Fred Roggin The Beast 980
Petco Park Builder Proposes Multi-Use Stadium Downtown - Times of San Diego
A quick estimation on what Stan Kronke would lose by keeping the Rams in Stl. A minimum of $1 billion in franchise value. $14 million in annual ticket sales (based on 18,000 potential ticket sales differential between the two plans). Nearly $3 million in concessions annually and around $1 million in parking($20 per person for concessions; grossly under valued. $25 per vehicle for parking). This does not include the fact that he would be on a lease and under control of the city of Stl or that he'll never host a Superbowl(s) or NCAA title game!
Senator Ryan Silvey
Backers of Carson NFL stadium file ballot initiative as first step - LA Times
Rams fans who didn t get stadium survey can request one Sports
Silvey seeks to restrict Nixon s authority to bond Rams stadium - The Missouri Times
Land for Carson stadium will be purchased this month ProFootballTalk
NFL teams and fan bases are classified by CITY, not STATE. The so-called California solution is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If Carson happens and Rams stay, the so-called California solution results in the following: Oakland pissed off and heartbroken, Oakland Raider history ended; SD pissed off and heartbroken 60+ yrs of SD Chargers bye bye- L.A. Pissed off that we're force fed 2 teams we don't want and not our 49 year legacy team we deserve. Hasn't the NFL seen any of the polls. Doesn't Fabiani and Spanos realize that the majority of the L.A. Area doesn't give two shits about the Chargers and worse may even hate them for screwing up a Rams homecoming??? WTF?
http://www.101sports.com/2015/03/05...randy-karraker/
sen silver OWNED randy karraker.
http://www.latimes.com/…/la-spw-car...itive-20150305…
This artcle by Nathan Fenno and Tim Logan of the L.A.Times intrigues me . They state that the city of Carson's signature gathering is expected to start next week for the ballot initiative that would change zoning to move forward with a 70,000-seat stadium in Carson . This signature gathering collusion could only rezone the area for a stadium , but it doesn't mean that the Stadium will begin construction by December . There's the question of a Environmental Impact Reports for the Carson stadium .
The ballot initiative that was passed by the Inglewood City Council for Stan Kroenke's 80,000 seat stadium was to add the 60 acre stadium to existing plans to develop the site by the Hollywood Park Land Company . Tuesday's Inglewood vote simply added the 60-acre stadium to Hollywood Park Land Company's 2009 plan to redevelop the former Hollywood Park racetrack site with homes, offices, stores, parks and open space, a hotel and a casino . So no new environmental impact reports , which are costly and often take months or even years , would be necessary.
The Carson stadium isn't a add on to anything . It is a brand new plan from square one , so a Environmental Impact Report would be necessary ? That being said , How can the Carson stadium start construction by December if it takes 18 to 24 months (from what i've researched) to complete a Environmental Impact Report ?
Now this BIG race that the media has fabricated to disrupt Stan Kroenke's Inglewood stadium from being built isn't looking much like a race at all . It's seems most likely that the Inglewood stadium could be finished and opened by the time the Carson stadium even clears a EIR , it if does at all . And whose to say by then if the Carson stadium would even be built ? This is exactly the same BS that Los Angeles fans have endured for over 20 years in getting a NFL franchise back to L.A.. In the end , the Chargers and Raiders will be running home with the Chargers extorting a new stadium from the City of San Diego and it's fans and , if St Louis is serious about building the Riverfront stadium , it might be the St Louis Raiders in 2018 .
Mar 3 Interviews with Adam Day and Scott Lewis about the Stadium Forum CHARGERS POWER HOUR on KLSD-AM
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Chargers Allowing Rams to return to L.A. would be unfair The Beast 980
St Louis Media Objective Reports or Cheerleaders United for MissouriI have lived in Los Angeles almost all of my life, and I have been a Rams fan for most of it. I have talked NFL football with thousands of people over the years, and I can honestly count on one hand how many people I have ever met who yearn for the "Los Angeles Chargers." The San Diego Chargers should take a combination of the Spanos Family money (billionaires, according to Forbes) and whatever funds Goldman Sachs wishes to loan them, and build their own stadium in the Qualcomm Stadium (formerly Jack Murphy Stadium) parking lot. That's what responsible and practical business people do. When completed, tear down the old stadium and create replacement parking. This ought to be Stadium Construction 101. Why this has taken well over a decade for this simple idea to be seriously considered can only be attributed to the stubbornness, sheer gall, audacity, and idiocy of the Spanos'. If anybody from the NFL monitors this page, know that any stadium built on that Carson landfill will not be well-attended. Not only that, but one day, people who do spend too much time there are apt to come down with cancer and other serious diseases and perhaps decide to join together to file a class action lawsuit against your league. I'm surprised that AEG hasn't already commissioned a report on the one site being talked about that is actually dangerous. Somebody in the NFL home office must still be there from the late 1990's. Ask him or her how the league really felt when Michael Ovitz and his partners planned to build "The Hacienda" on or near this site for the "Los Angeles Conquistadors," a team, like the "St. Louis Stallions," which was never to be. I'm betting that the NFL already realizes this, and this "Los Angeles, er, Carson Stadium" will never be built. This is just one last final desperate chance for the Chargers to use Los Angeles as "leverage." The Raiders are included because what does the Davis Family have to lose? Mark Davis cannot move the Raiders out of the San Francisco Bay Area without his mother Carol's permission, and there have been several published reports that she won't give in.. Any talk of the Raiders moving anywhere cannot be taken seriously unless Carol Davis says it's true.
NFL source NFL has mishandled Los Angeles. But can St. Louis save the day The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
Why Goldman Sachs Wants the Chargers in Los Angeles - Voice of San Diego
newballpark.org Raiders could stay at Alameda HQ through Feb 2019 even if they leave Oakland next year
Morning links San Diego Chargers mayor to talk with Roger Goodell - ESPN
Something doesn't ring true here. I do not understand how it is that, the San Diego Chargers can buy all this land in Carson and propose to build a 1.7 billion dollar stadium with Goldman Sachs fronting the money and, not be able to do the same thing in San Diego county. Are municipalities in San Diego not subject to the same laws as Inglewood or Carson? If they (Chargers) can afford to make this kind of commitment in Carson then, why do they need the City of San Diego to figure out the financing for a new stadium? Mark Fabiani the Chargers hired lawyer said on the Fred Roggin show that the Chargers do not need the Raiders to build this stadium in Carson. Okay, fine, then you don't need them or the city of San Diego to build a similar stadium in San Diego County. Why does it have to be in San Diego? Why not Oceanside, or Chula Vista, or Vista, or El Cajon? Why not just rent the land from San Diego at the Mission valley site and build the stadium there themselves? San Diego County, maybe the eastern part has plots of land large enough for a stadium. Hell if they can have San Diego Wild Animal park there then certainly there must be enough land for this?
Hate to say this but Fred really didn't nail Fabiani down on that point.
Chargers Stadium Intrigue Notes Analysis NBC 7 San Diego
If Kroenke Moves On Who Could Fill Rams Ownership Void insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
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Raiders staying in Oakland . . . for a year ProFootballTalk
Myths and Half-truths New Stadium Proposal United for Missouri
Repost from Jan. 24th...We can see from this story that Fabiani/Spanos lied through their teeth. Goldman-Sachs is prominently in the discussion. AEG also mentioned earlier. This all smells...
http://espn.go.com/…/chargers-call-...stadium-deal-i…
Goodell said himself during the NFL press conference the week of the Super Bowl that Stan has done his due diligence in working with the City of St. Louis. He went out of his way to say that the Rams had been working "for years" on their stadium problems, and that there hadn't been a satifactory solutionfor any of the parties. I believe that he was laying the groundwork there. I don't like Goodell much, but he seemed to be backing Stan in that moment.
If the league really wanted Kroenke to remain in St. Louis, they would have stepped in by now.
The media has it's own process with stadium proposals. They hype it up, then when it's official or "shovel ready", that's when the mud-slinging begins. Inglewood is already in the 2nd stage. Carson is all hype right now. Inglewood is going about things the right way...silently.
yep.
On the Fred Roggin show he report that St. Louis will cover any short falls in money to cover the Carson project. So in fact st louis may be helping build 2 stadiums.
I find it funny L.A tax payers won't pay a cent to build a stadium but st louis tax payers will also help fund a stadium out in L.A
Fundraising campaign underway in bid to keep Chargers in San Diego - LA Times
Voters to Decide L.A. s NFL Stadium - Breitbart
Coliseum developer sounds warning over Raiders future SFBay San Francisco Bay Area News and Sports
This is why they don't want a vote.
Q: There has been discussion of the NFL’s St. Louis Rams relocating to Los Angeles. In order to keep the team in St. Louis, a plan has been proposed to build a new stadium using approximately $500 million in taxpayer funds. Do you support or oppose a plan using $500 million in taxpayer funds to build a new stadium for the St. Louis Rams in order to keep them in St. Louis?
Support…………19%
Oppose………….70%
Don’t Know……12%
hee hee.
In listening to the Mark Davis interview again on Fred Roggin show I just get the impression this is all posturing by the Raiders. I dont know, just seems funny how he says he just started really talking to Spanos last month and all this Carson stuff came together for the raiders in a week?! And how its a 50/50 venture with the chargers, but yet the chargers would do this carson deal w/o the raiders if they had to. Those 2 dont add up. I now believe the chargers have the gaul to try and pull off a move to LA if they had to, but i get the sense the Raiders arent really all in on Carson.
St. Louis Plans to Welcome Raiders With New Stadium - Toast Dispatch
2003 Carson plan Stadium site has been a tough sell - LA Times
Nice drawings where s the NFL franchise - St. Louis American Claibs Call
Why downtown remains Chargers preferred stadium location in San Diego - San Diego Chargers Blog - ESPN
AEG falling behind in fight for NFL stadium takes the gloves off - LA Times
1990s 36 reasons why you would love the 90s to come back again FOX Sports
Lawmakers to review costs benefits of new Rams stadium at hearing kplr11.com
As Missouri considers building new stadium it remains unclear whether N.F.L. wants to stay PoliticMo
Study State would see payoff from building stadium for Rams News
Study State would see payoff from building stadium for Rams News
fresh from ABC
http://abc7.com/sports/aeg-no-longe...town-la/551430/
Will Carson plan jolt San Diego into action on NFL stadium
when Kroenke went from a standing start in the beginning of January to a fully entitled stadium site in less then two months, that really kinda put things in perspective."
Yeah it sure did. It told us one thing: The Rams are coming HOME!
Saw this cool tweet on ESPN:
Steve Mason retweeted
thezeiders Casey Zeiders
Nick Foles is excited to be coming back to the West Coast in two years... #LARams
http://parkwaynews.net/treaty/archives/1055
The level of rational thought seems to be lowering rapidly with StL fans. The arguments they bring forth are comical. Like, how LA fans are greedy cause we have so many other sports and things to do, we don't need the Rams. Or how the lack of fan support forced the Rams to run for greener pastures... In St Louis(???) They ignore facts and rationalize their misguided thoughts.
If the Rams wanted to stay in StL, why not say it? The Rams have already notified Peacock that the Rams will not endorse or help finance a stadium it does not approve of. All indications are that the only roadblock is getting voter approval for the riverfront stadium (assuming the Rams approve). If the Rams wanted to stay in StL why not say it and get more voter support? I am sure that simply acknowledging their desire to stay (if it exists) would help them get the support they need to get the funding/voter approval the stadium needs.
The reason is simple. The Rams do not like the new stadium being proposed (bad news cause that means no financing from the Rams) OR the Rams are set on moving back to LA.
Now, you can root for and hope and pray the Rams stay all you want. But by making ridiculous claims like "LA fans have enough" and "LA didn't support the Rams" shows only ignorance and desperation. Please stop ignoring common sense. If the Rams wanted to STAY in StL, all they would need to do is say so.
Stan has said all he needs to say by his actions. Can you say LA Rams?
Stadium task force picks Mission Valley UTSanDiego.com Mobile
Bradford dissed the st louis fanbase right off the bat.lol
STLtoday.com View topic - GROUP ATTEMPTING TO OVERTURN INGLEWOOD STADIUM
Bill would force Nixon to get approval for stadium bonds News
The March meeting will determine if they'll come this year or next. If Stan doesn't like what the out come is he goes rogue and moves this year. If all in agreement for the Rams to move they move next year.
Missouri Senate panel OKs limit to Rams stadium bonds FOX2now.com
St Louis Media Objective Reports or Cheerleaders United for MissouriI have lived in Los Angeles almost all of my life, and I have been a Rams fan for most of it. I have talked NFL football with thousands of people over the years, and I can honestly count on one hand how many people I have ever met who yearn for the "Los Angeles Chargers." The San Diego Chargers should take a combination of the Spanos Family money (billionaires, according to Forbes) and whatever funds Goldman Sachs wishes to loan them, and build their own stadium in the Qualcomm Stadium (formerly Jack Murphy Stadium) parking lot. That's what responsible and practical business people do. When completed, tear down the old stadium and create replacement parking. This ought to be Stadium Construction 101. Why this has taken well over a decade for this simple idea to be seriously considered can only be attributed to the stubbornness, sheer gall, audacity, and idiocy of the Spanos'. If anybody from the NFL monitors this page, know that any stadium built on that Carson landfill will not be well-attended. Not only that, but one day, people who do spend too much time there are apt to come down with cancer and other serious diseases and perhaps decide to join together to file a class action lawsuit against your league. I'm surprised that AEG hasn't already commissioned a report on the one site being talked about that is actually dangerous. Somebody in the NFL home office must still be there from the late 1990's. Ask him or her how the league really felt when Michael Ovitz and his partners planned to build "The Hacienda" on or near this site for the "Los Angeles Conquistadors," a team, like the "St. Louis Stallions," which was never to be. I'm betting that the NFL already realizes this, and this "Los Angeles, er, Carson Stadium" will never be built. This is just one last final desperate chance for the Chargers to use Los Angeles as "leverage." The Raiders are included because what does the Davis Family have to lose? Mark Davis cannot move the Raiders out of the San Francisco Bay Area without his mother Carol's permission, and there have been several published reports that she won't give in.. Any talk of the Raiders moving anywhere cannot be taken seriously unless Carol Davis says it's true.
NFL source NFL has mishandled Los Angeles. But can St. Louis save the day The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
Why Goldman Sachs Wants the Chargers in Los Angeles - Voice of San Diego
newballpark.org Raiders could stay at Alameda HQ through Feb 2019 even if they leave Oakland next year
Morning links San Diego Chargers mayor to talk with Roger Goodell - ESPN
Something doesn't ring true here. I do not understand how it is that, the San Diego Chargers can buy all this land in Carson and propose to build a 1.7 billion dollar stadium with Goldman Sachs fronting the money and, not be able to do the same thing in San Diego county. Are municipalities in San Diego not subject to the same laws as Inglewood or Carson? If they (Chargers) can afford to make this kind of commitment in Carson then, why do they need the City of San Diego to figure out the financing for a new stadium? Mark Fabiani the Chargers hired lawyer said on the Fred Roggin show that the Chargers do not need the Raiders to build this stadium in Carson. Okay, fine, then you don't need them or the city of San Diego to build a similar stadium in San Diego County. Why does it have to be in San Diego? Why not Oceanside, or Chula Vista, or Vista, or El Cajon? Why not just rent the land from San Diego at the Mission valley site and build the stadium there themselves? San Diego County, maybe the eastern part has plots of land large enough for a stadium. Hell if they can have San Diego Wild Animal park there then certainly there must be enough land for this?
Hate to say this but Fred really didn't nail Fabiani down on that point.
Chargers Stadium Intrigue Notes Analysis NBC 7 San Diego
If Kroenke Moves On Who Could Fill Rams Ownership Void insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
Everyone follow this link.NFL.com - Contact Us Newand choose other. Please fill it out and let them know our position.
Raiders staying in Oakland . . . for a year ProFootballTalk
Myths and Half-truths New Stadium Proposal United for Missouri
Repost from Jan. 24th...We can see from this story that Fabiani/Spanos lied through their teeth. Goldman-Sachs is prominently in the discussion. AEG also mentioned earlier. This all smells...
http://espn.go.com/…/chargers-call-...stadium-deal-i…
Goodell said himself during the NFL press conference the week of the Super Bowl that Stan has done his due diligence in working with the City of St. Louis. He went out of his way to say that the Rams had been working "for years" on their stadium problems, and that there hadn't been a satifactory solutionfor any of the parties. I believe that he was laying the groundwork there. I don't like Goodell much, but he seemed to be backing Stan in that moment.
If the league really wanted Kroenke to remain in St. Louis, they would have stepped in by now.
The media has it's own process with stadium proposals. They hype it up, then when it's official or "shovel ready", that's when the mud-slinging begins. Inglewood is already in the 2nd stage. Carson is all hype right now. Inglewood is going about things the right way...silently.
yep.
On the Fred Roggin show he report that St. Louis will cover any short falls in money to cover the Carson project. So in fact st louis may be helping build 2 stadiums.
I find it funny L.A tax payers won't pay a cent to build a stadium but st louis tax payers will also help fund a stadium out in L.A
Fundraising campaign underway in bid to keep Chargers in San Diego - LA Times
Voters to Decide L.A. s NFL Stadium - Breitbart
Coliseum developer sounds warning over Raiders future SFBay San Francisco Bay Area News and Sports
This is why they don't want a vote.
Q: There has been discussion of the NFL’s St. Louis Rams relocating to Los Angeles. In order to keep the team in St. Louis, a plan has been proposed to build a new stadium using approximately $500 million in taxpayer funds. Do you support or oppose a plan using $500 million in taxpayer funds to build a new stadium for the St. Louis Rams in order to keep them in St. Louis?
Support…………19%
Oppose………….70%
Don’t Know……12%
hee hee.
In listening to the Mark Davis interview again on Fred Roggin show I just get the impression this is all posturing by the Raiders. I dont know, just seems funny how he says he just started really talking to Spanos last month and all this Carson stuff came together for the raiders in a week?! And how its a 50/50 venture with the chargers, but yet the chargers would do this carson deal w/o the raiders if they had to. Those 2 dont add up. I now believe the chargers have the gaul to try and pull off a move to LA if they had to, but i get the sense the Raiders arent really all in on Carson.
St. Louis Plans to Welcome Raiders With New Stadium - Toast Dispatch
2003 Carson plan Stadium site has been a tough sell - LA Times
Nice drawings where s the NFL franchise - St. Louis American Claibs Call
Why downtown remains Chargers preferred stadium location in San Diego - San Diego Chargers Blog - ESPN
AEG falling behind in fight for NFL stadium takes the gloves off - LA Times
1990s 36 reasons why you would love the 90s to come back again FOX Sports
Lawmakers to review costs benefits of new Rams stadium at hearing kplr11.com
As Missouri considers building new stadium it remains unclear whether N.F.L. wants to stay PoliticMo
Study State would see payoff from building stadium for Rams News
Study State would see payoff from building stadium for Rams News
fresh from ABC
http://abc7.com/sports/aeg-no-longe...town-la/551430/
Will Carson plan jolt San Diego into action on NFL stadium
when Kroenke went from a standing start in the beginning of January to a fully entitled stadium site in less then two months, that really kinda put things in perspective."
Yeah it sure did. It told us one thing: The Rams are coming HOME!
Saw this cool tweet on ESPN:
Steve Mason retweeted
thezeiders Casey Zeiders
Nick Foles is excited to be coming back to the West Coast in two years... #LARams
http://parkwaynews.net/treaty/archives/1055
The level of rational thought seems to be lowering rapidly with StL fans. The arguments they bring forth are comical. Like, how LA fans are greedy cause we have so many other sports and things to do, we don't need the Rams. Or how the lack of fan support forced the Rams to run for greener pastures... In St Louis(???) They ignore facts and rationalize their misguided thoughts.
If the Rams wanted to stay in StL, why not say it? The Rams have already notified Peacock that the Rams will not endorse or help finance a stadium it does not approve of. All indications are that the only roadblock is getting voter approval for the riverfront stadium (assuming the Rams approve). If the Rams wanted to stay in StL why not say it and get more voter support? I am sure that simply acknowledging their desire to stay (if it exists) would help them get the support they need to get the funding/voter approval the stadium needs.
The reason is simple. The Rams do not like the new stadium being proposed (bad news cause that means no financing from the Rams) OR the Rams are set on moving back to LA.
Now, you can root for and hope and pray the Rams stay all you want. But by making ridiculous claims like "LA fans have enough" and "LA didn't support the Rams" shows only ignorance and desperation. Please stop ignoring common sense. If the Rams wanted to STAY in StL, all they would need to do is say so.
Stan has said all he needs to say by his actions. Can you say LA Rams?
Stadium task force picks Mission Valley UTSanDiego.com Mobile
Bradford dissed the st louis fanbase right off the bat.lol
STLtoday.com View topic - GROUP ATTEMPTING TO OVERTURN INGLEWOOD STADIUM
Bill would force Nixon to get approval for stadium bonds News
The March meeting will determine if they'll come this year or next. If Stan doesn't like what the out come is he goes rogue and moves this year. If all in agreement for the Rams to move they move next year.
Missouri Senate panel OKs limit to Rams stadium bonds FOX2now.com
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And then there is this crap, unions, smh. if you are part of a union, call up your brothers/sisters and end this joke. "The politically powerful unions have been quietly gathering petition signatures in Inglewood that could lead to a local vote on the plan, potentially delaying development of the project. That would seek to override the City Council, which previously endorsed the plan."
Raiders Stadium Solution In Oakland May Buck National Trend By Going Small ThePostGame
Don't pencil the Raiders into Carson! "In other words, the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles and its shiny new stadium have done little to tempt the Raiders. Despite the optimistic conversation coming out of southern California, the team seems hopeful it can secure a new stadium deal in Alameda County."
"I'm one of these guys that believes the owner is always making the best decision for his business," Kephart says. "I actually think Mark Davis is making the best business decision to stay in Oakland."
State says Carson site ready for construction of NFL stadium - LA Times
"Eventually, the parcel would be capped with high-density plastic to prevent garbage-spawned gases from leaking into the air. The cap would be topped with layers of new soil, Yemut said.
"It will be expensive," he said of the remaining work, estimating the monthly costs of operating just the gas extraction wells at $200,000 to $300,000." The NFL is in a rush to jump into THIS
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Michael Sanchez-stevens Facebook
Rams to L.A.? Can you say 'done deal?' Good job all associated with the Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams campaign!
Which NFL team would you like to see come to L.A. - LA Times
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St. Louis Stadium Proposal - Sen. Silvey Responds to Randy Karraker - 101Sports.com
Dave Boling Los Angeles raises stakes in NFL relocation roulette Dave Boling The News Tribune
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The Thundering Herd - ESPN
colin cowherds podcast.talks about Rams coming back to LA.must hear.starts at 56:45 mark.
The Thundering Herd - ESPN
nwagoner: "But let's be realistic here, despite the overall positive tone of any and all comments Grubman made on behalf of the league, he committed to absolutely nothing, nor would you expect him to. He's simply doing his job. But it doesn't take a direct answer to know that ultimately the league and its owners will do what they believe is best for business."
STL has been given every opportunity to fulfill its obligations to the Rams and provide them a "First Tier" stadium in accordance with the Amended and Restated St. Louis NFL Lease. The fact that they cannot do so was their choice, and this is a simple case of "Breach of Contract". The Rams have honored the terms of the lease, STL has not.
laughable comment from chargers Fabiani.lol
The Rams voluntarily left the Los Angeles and Orange County markets, and some owners may question whether they deserve to return...” Let the record show that it was the Chargers who were the first pro football team to voluntarily leave the Los Angeles and Orange County markets (in 1961).
I hope the nfl commish realiezes that if he forces the rams to stay in STL in 2015 ( but then allows them to move to LA in 2016) then no one 2ill go to stl rams games in 2015 . . . Remember when oilers spent a lame duck final year at Houston Astrodome (1995) before they moved to TN to become the now Titans (1996)? It you dont learn from history you will repeat it!!!!!!!!
From Ken Belson's column in NY Times Jan 13th.
Kroenke also announced plans to build an 80,000-seat stadium near downtown Los Angeles, stoking fears in St. Louis that he would move the team. The N.F.L. requires that at least 24 of the league’s 32 owners approve any relocation.
But Jones said in an interview that while he preferred that owners got league approval, it was possible for teams to move without it.
“As it would turn out now, apart from the league saying no, you can move there,” he said. “Keep in mind that teams have moved without the permission of the league. They just have.”
Dave Peacock, who is spearheading an effort to build a new stadium in St. Louis, was dismayed.
“We’re disappointed that anyone associated with the N.F.L. might dismiss the bylaws they wrote to govern themselves,” he said. “We’ve put a lot of faith in those bylaws.”
Peacock said he has been talking with league officials and Kevin Demoff, the chief operating officer of the Rams — although not with Kroenke —
And that pretty much sums up this whole story up to now. How many times did we say, "yes they can move and others have before"? How many times did Bernie and this guy Peacock and everyone else say 'but,the bylaws prevent them from moving if we present a viable plan"?
So it appears HKS Architects - Los Angeles will be designing the stadium in Inglewood. If so, then likely either Maria Martinico, Michael Kim, or Scott Hunter will be leading the project. On a job of this magnitude, I would guess it will be all hands on deck, possibly led by Maria Martinico. We shall see. On a side note, HKS also designed the Dallas Cowboys' At&T Stadium, a dream venue. So, if the Rams play in an HKS designed stadium, it should be beautiful.
I've seen it written or heard it said that no team has ever left an NFL city with an accepted stadium proposal on the table in its current place. But that doesn't mean much if Kroenke turns down the proposal here. The St. Louis plan asks him to pay about $450 million ($200 million of which would come in the form of a loan but have to be paid back via revenue from premium seating ). The NFL can't force Kroenke to pay that money here or anywhere. If he turns down the St. Louis offer, there is no accepted" stadium proposal."--ESPN
Look you guys, I get it. I have looked at the situation from both sides and it's become painfully clear that the Rams are leaving. Financially and economically speaking, Inglewood and LA as a whole will benefit more from their project than STL with theirs. The Chargers are gonna sue the Rams, only to get their asses handed to them in court for even doing so. STL leaders and Nixon know that they're losing the team and are going to have to court another one.
But...leverage."
Ameritrade stock news press releases: "Meanwhile, the obstacles of moving the Rams to L.A. just keep dwindling. Though the stadium plan will go to a public vote in Inglewood, the fact that Kroenke and his partners aren't using tax dollars or other public money to build their facilities has both developers and the city ready to start construction."
"As one resident tells us ... "They told us that with the Rams coming over to Hollywood Park, our property values will definitely go up."
Of course, the Rams-to-L.A. move is not a done deal yet (it will still need voter approval) ... "but owner Stan Kroenke has announced plans to build a new stadium in Inglewood -- and he seems dead set on moving the team over ASAP."
have it on good authority that the office staff in stl has been told not to order merchandise for resale with st louis on it......don't want to release how i know but I do..100% true...this person thinks they will move this yr..not next
yahoo!!1
Here's what is often overlooked with all this "good faith" bylaws nonsense. The Rams (St Louis native Georgia Forntiere at the time) agreed to come to St Louis in a stadium that St Louis city, county, and state built and pay $1 a year rent. It was agreed that St Louis (CVC) would keep that stadium among the elite in the league. St Louis broke the lease. Now they want the Rams & League to pay for 2/3 of a stadium the the city will own? Thats not why the Rams went to St Louis, and its not what they were promised (whether that deal was ridiculous or not). St Louis is trying to pull a bait and switch. Stan ain't having it though. He can tell the league he was promised an upper tier stadium and din't receive it. Period. He'll win.
They aren't goint to let the cat completely out of the bag until they're ready. Like Mayor Butts said when asked about the Rams last month..Shshsh!
"Meany and Butts were careful not to call the stadium an "NFL stadium" or claim that it was being built to house an NFL team but it was clear that was the underlying expectation as a handful of Rams fans cheered from a distance during both news conferences".
Here's 2 interesting tweets from 2 fellas we read:
"ArashMarkazi Arash Markazi
Hollywood Park Land Company says the 80,000-seat stadium will be built with or without NFL commitment. Taking the Field of Dreams approach." That is one hell of a left hook right there!!!!
how about this? when goodell announced that no team was moving in 2015 that was he said because they didn't want a team to move unless they had more firms plans for a stadium. well now things have changed, they do have firm plans now so what is to stop stan from probably already have been talking to the other owners to round up the votes to move this year and not wait? thus avoiding a lame duck season. the bylaws that say he has to negotiate first with st louis, well bylaws can be gotten around, they're not set in stone. the owners can do what they want when it comes down to it, right?
Oakland s Coliseum City Facebook
Looks like it may not happen in san diego.
Latest on the Chargers Stadium in San Diego - KUSI News - San Diego CA
A negotiation isn't just one-sided...waiting for one guy to say "yes." It's a dance back-and-forth, where each side gives up something in order to get something. Don't despair of the process so soon.
Nfl commish roger goddell is in a corner . . .rams have already said in writing that 2015 will be teams last year in STL (and will vacate dome on 3/31/16) . . . League has never been successful in preventing teams from moving (raiders > la in 82, browns > bal in 95, oilers > tn in 96) since mlb is only league with anti trust protection to stop moves (sf > tampa bay in 93) . . .. if goddell is smart and can keep his ego in check, he allows rams to move to la in 2016 after paying big relocation fee ($500m -$1billion) .. . I wouldnt be surprised if all this is being negotiated now . . .
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Debra E. Callahan Facebook
Morning links San Diego Chargers mayor to talk with Roger Goodell - ESPN
And then there is this crap, unions, smh. if you are part of a union, call up your brothers/sisters and end this joke. "The politically powerful unions have been quietly gathering petition signatures in Inglewood that could lead to a local vote on the plan, potentially delaying development of the project. That would seek to override the City Council, which previously endorsed the plan."
Raiders Stadium Solution In Oakland May Buck National Trend By Going Small ThePostGame
Don't pencil the Raiders into Carson! "In other words, the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles and its shiny new stadium have done little to tempt the Raiders. Despite the optimistic conversation coming out of southern California, the team seems hopeful it can secure a new stadium deal in Alameda County."
"I'm one of these guys that believes the owner is always making the best decision for his business," Kephart says. "I actually think Mark Davis is making the best business decision to stay in Oakland."
State says Carson site ready for construction of NFL stadium - LA Times
"Eventually, the parcel would be capped with high-density plastic to prevent garbage-spawned gases from leaking into the air. The cap would be topped with layers of new soil, Yemut said.
"It will be expensive," he said of the remaining work, estimating the monthly costs of operating just the gas extraction wells at $200,000 to $300,000." The NFL is in a rush to jump into THIS
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Michael Sanchez-stevens Facebook
Rams to L.A.? Can you say 'done deal?' Good job all associated with the Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams campaign!
Which NFL team would you like to see come to L.A. - LA Times
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St. Louis Stadium Proposal - Sen. Silvey Responds to Randy Karraker - 101Sports.com
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Raiders thinking small when it comes to Oakland stadium - Inside Bay Area
The Thundering Herd - ESPN
colin cowherds podcast.talks about Rams coming back to LA.must hear.starts at 56:45 mark.
The Thundering Herd - ESPN
nwagoner: "But let's be realistic here, despite the overall positive tone of any and all comments Grubman made on behalf of the league, he committed to absolutely nothing, nor would you expect him to. He's simply doing his job. But it doesn't take a direct answer to know that ultimately the league and its owners will do what they believe is best for business."
STL has been given every opportunity to fulfill its obligations to the Rams and provide them a "First Tier" stadium in accordance with the Amended and Restated St. Louis NFL Lease. The fact that they cannot do so was their choice, and this is a simple case of "Breach of Contract". The Rams have honored the terms of the lease, STL has not.
laughable comment from chargers Fabiani.lol
The Rams voluntarily left the Los Angeles and Orange County markets, and some owners may question whether they deserve to return...” Let the record show that it was the Chargers who were the first pro football team to voluntarily leave the Los Angeles and Orange County markets (in 1961).
I hope the nfl commish realiezes that if he forces the rams to stay in STL in 2015 ( but then allows them to move to LA in 2016) then no one 2ill go to stl rams games in 2015 . . . Remember when oilers spent a lame duck final year at Houston Astrodome (1995) before they moved to TN to become the now Titans (1996)? It you dont learn from history you will repeat it!!!!!!!!
From Ken Belson's column in NY Times Jan 13th.
Kroenke also announced plans to build an 80,000-seat stadium near downtown Los Angeles, stoking fears in St. Louis that he would move the team. The N.F.L. requires that at least 24 of the league’s 32 owners approve any relocation.
But Jones said in an interview that while he preferred that owners got league approval, it was possible for teams to move without it.
“As it would turn out now, apart from the league saying no, you can move there,” he said. “Keep in mind that teams have moved without the permission of the league. They just have.”
Dave Peacock, who is spearheading an effort to build a new stadium in St. Louis, was dismayed.
“We’re disappointed that anyone associated with the N.F.L. might dismiss the bylaws they wrote to govern themselves,” he said. “We’ve put a lot of faith in those bylaws.”
Peacock said he has been talking with league officials and Kevin Demoff, the chief operating officer of the Rams — although not with Kroenke —
And that pretty much sums up this whole story up to now. How many times did we say, "yes they can move and others have before"? How many times did Bernie and this guy Peacock and everyone else say 'but,the bylaws prevent them from moving if we present a viable plan"?
So it appears HKS Architects - Los Angeles will be designing the stadium in Inglewood. If so, then likely either Maria Martinico, Michael Kim, or Scott Hunter will be leading the project. On a job of this magnitude, I would guess it will be all hands on deck, possibly led by Maria Martinico. We shall see. On a side note, HKS also designed the Dallas Cowboys' At&T Stadium, a dream venue. So, if the Rams play in an HKS designed stadium, it should be beautiful.
I've seen it written or heard it said that no team has ever left an NFL city with an accepted stadium proposal on the table in its current place. But that doesn't mean much if Kroenke turns down the proposal here. The St. Louis plan asks him to pay about $450 million ($200 million of which would come in the form of a loan but have to be paid back via revenue from premium seating ). The NFL can't force Kroenke to pay that money here or anywhere. If he turns down the St. Louis offer, there is no accepted" stadium proposal."--ESPN
Look you guys, I get it. I have looked at the situation from both sides and it's become painfully clear that the Rams are leaving. Financially and economically speaking, Inglewood and LA as a whole will benefit more from their project than STL with theirs. The Chargers are gonna sue the Rams, only to get their asses handed to them in court for even doing so. STL leaders and Nixon know that they're losing the team and are going to have to court another one.
But...leverage."
Ameritrade stock news press releases: "Meanwhile, the obstacles of moving the Rams to L.A. just keep dwindling. Though the stadium plan will go to a public vote in Inglewood, the fact that Kroenke and his partners aren't using tax dollars or other public money to build their facilities has both developers and the city ready to start construction."
"As one resident tells us ... "They told us that with the Rams coming over to Hollywood Park, our property values will definitely go up."
Of course, the Rams-to-L.A. move is not a done deal yet (it will still need voter approval) ... "but owner Stan Kroenke has announced plans to build a new stadium in Inglewood -- and he seems dead set on moving the team over ASAP."
have it on good authority that the office staff in stl has been told not to order merchandise for resale with st louis on it......don't want to release how i know but I do..100% true...this person thinks they will move this yr..not next
yahoo!!1
Here's what is often overlooked with all this "good faith" bylaws nonsense. The Rams (St Louis native Georgia Forntiere at the time) agreed to come to St Louis in a stadium that St Louis city, county, and state built and pay $1 a year rent. It was agreed that St Louis (CVC) would keep that stadium among the elite in the league. St Louis broke the lease. Now they want the Rams & League to pay for 2/3 of a stadium the the city will own? Thats not why the Rams went to St Louis, and its not what they were promised (whether that deal was ridiculous or not). St Louis is trying to pull a bait and switch. Stan ain't having it though. He can tell the league he was promised an upper tier stadium and din't receive it. Period. He'll win.
They aren't goint to let the cat completely out of the bag until they're ready. Like Mayor Butts said when asked about the Rams last month..Shshsh!
"Meany and Butts were careful not to call the stadium an "NFL stadium" or claim that it was being built to house an NFL team but it was clear that was the underlying expectation as a handful of Rams fans cheered from a distance during both news conferences".
Here's 2 interesting tweets from 2 fellas we read:
"ArashMarkazi Arash Markazi
Hollywood Park Land Company says the 80,000-seat stadium will be built with or without NFL commitment. Taking the Field of Dreams approach." That is one hell of a left hook right there!!!!
how about this? when goodell announced that no team was moving in 2015 that was he said because they didn't want a team to move unless they had more firms plans for a stadium. well now things have changed, they do have firm plans now so what is to stop stan from probably already have been talking to the other owners to round up the votes to move this year and not wait? thus avoiding a lame duck season. the bylaws that say he has to negotiate first with st louis, well bylaws can be gotten around, they're not set in stone. the owners can do what they want when it comes down to it, right?
Oakland s Coliseum City Facebook
Looks like it may not happen in san diego.
Latest on the Chargers Stadium in San Diego - KUSI News - San Diego CA
A negotiation isn't just one-sided...waiting for one guy to say "yes." It's a dance back-and-forth, where each side gives up something in order to get something. Don't despair of the process so soon.
Nfl commish roger goddell is in a corner . . .rams have already said in writing that 2015 will be teams last year in STL (and will vacate dome on 3/31/16) . . . League has never been successful in preventing teams from moving (raiders > la in 82, browns > bal in 95, oilers > tn in 96) since mlb is only league with anti trust protection to stop moves (sf > tampa bay in 93) . . .. if goddell is smart and can keep his ego in check, he allows rams to move to la in 2016 after paying big relocation fee ($500m -$1billion) .. . I wouldnt be surprised if all this is being negotiated now . . .
- He is on a year to year lease. When did he say 2015 is his last year. You people live in a major fog.
- Hey Bill, the year to year lease does not become official until a specific day in April 2015. Don't be shocked if 2014 was the last year the Rams are in SL after these owner meetings. Who is in the fog now bitch!
- Deb wasnt Spanos stance to keep Rams away because they were cutting into his fanbase? Why is he willing to share with the Raiders who are from out of LA area? Wont they cut into his fan base too?
- The only team that Spanos fears about coming to LA is the Rams. He knows that the owner has the finances to do it and the fan base to support them. No other team scares him. Nobody in LA wants the Chargers here. Stop trying to use LA as leverage.This is the only reason for the Rams to not be here in 2015. So Goodell could keep using LA as a scare tactic to force San Diego to build Spanos a stadium.
Dean WilleI live in the Bay Area and I believe Raiders will get stadium built in Oakland! Its lookin good!
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ray hartman talking rams.segment four.
http://www.insidestlaudio.com/Pressbox/030215-4PB.mp3
San Diego Chargers fans favor Qualcomm site for new stadium - ESPN
save the chargers
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/585/...6&cid=fb_na
good job san diego.keep your bolts.
http://fox5sandiego.com/2015/03/02/...w-stadium-plan/
Over half the NFL owners represented on Forbes billionaire list ProFootballTalk
Legislation Filed to Prohibit Sale of Bonds for St. Louis Stadium CBS St. Louis
peacoack saying kroneke may not be the owner along with some other stuff
CBS Sports Radio 920 on insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife
Dave Peacock Talks St. Louis Stadium Project Future of Rams insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife CBS Sports 920 Feature Interviews
Agreed! I think he's willing to play the game and play by the rules, at least outwardly. Behind the scenes, I think all parties involved already know his intent. That includes the other owners the city of Inglewood and Stl. That is why Mayor Butts is so confident and Hypocrite Nixon wants to keep Stl a "NFL" city!
have been saying for awhile that the league wants to stay as clean as possible. The only way to do that, is to force Stans hand and make him look like the bad guy. I believe the league is behind the Rams coming home, but are never going to come out and say it. Stan will have to take the PR hit, not the league!
Grubman has stated himself that Inglewood is already entitled. As for the AEG report, it has already been de-bunked pretty much across the board, by nearly every news outlet. I say the Rams keep moving forward. This other background noise will fade away. #larams
new ram stuff
So, why is the owners holding a meeting with the Carson people, Raiders and Chargers? This according to Roggin is what happened yesterday and allegedly the owners are happy with Carson's progress. Okay, what progress? They still have no approval for the stadium to be built and I have not heard about what progress they have made on their petition for signatures. So, this dude was on with Jeannie and Marcus this morning said its not about who is in the lead (meaning Kroenke) its about which site is viable and he talked about this bullshit terrorist assessment report by Tom Ridge that was funded by AEG. Really? Anyone who has a bit of common sense knows that report isn't worth the paper it is written on because any significant place in LA and any Stadium in the country could be targeted by an airplane. And when has this every happened? So, that aside, how is it that the Inglewood site is not viable? How? Then we get Grubby Grubman say on some show on ESPN that Kroenke told him he's going to play by the rules. Huh? So, what rules are these? As Roggin said Kroenke couild be saying that now but if his move to LA is voted down many feel he'll go anyways. You have to wonder as to why the NFL is twitting around like this. Kroenke has blazed the trail to LA. There is no way that Inglewood is not viable.
comments from the locals are hilarious.
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2015/...thing-in-sight/
here's another.
http://m.stltoday.com/sports/footba...bile_touch=true
Hello, Rams Fans. Diehard Sports Radio (Diehard Sports Radio Facebook> will be interviewing Andy Hogan at 7pm pacific, 10pm eastern sharp tonight for the latest happenings surrounding the Rams expected return to Los Angeles. You can listen in live through the link below or on the podcast beginning tomorrow. Enjoy the segment.
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Nick Fairley Visiting Rams - NFL Rumors - ProFootballRumors.com
Morning links San Diego Chargers mayor to talk with Roger Goodell - ESPN
Friction between unions developers could snarl Inglewood NFL stadium project
Don't pencil the Raiders into Carson! "In other words, the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles and its shiny new stadium have done little to tempt the Raiders. Despite the optimistic conversation coming out of southern California, the team seems hopeful it can secure a new stadium deal in Alameda County."
"I'm one of these guys that believes the owner is always making the best decision for his business," Kephart says. "I actually think Mark Davis is making the best business decision to stay in Oakland."
http://www.thepostgame.com/…/raider...-solution-oakla
That the Chargers were scheduled to come to LA first, and not the Rams. That they were set to play in downtown LA. Then someone at the last minute stalled. Sam Kronke came in the midst of that confusion and disrupted everything.
He said that chargers had a deal with aeg a few yrs back that was scuttled at the last minute...said that sd had a press conf where they stated their preference for mission valley stadium site and that their counsel mark fabiani is in carson
Thank God it stalled and that Farmers Field is dead now. Inglewood is the much better option for several reasons.
In any case, that is really interesting. So the Chargers actually are interested in LA...too late,
Louis Espinoza Seems to me we dodged a bullet. Wow! Why is SD counsel bark fabiani in Carson?
Los Angeles County Federation of Labor Executive Secretary Rusty Hicks, the guy spearheading this union/signature thing will be on Fred Roggin, Beast 980 live at 2:30pm today.
The Beast 980 The Beast 980
L.A. labor group opposes Inglewood stadium plan ProFootballTalk
As I said, I live in St. Louis. A local college that I am attending has this coming up on Tuesday... Only problem is that I work overnights right now and making this talk could be troublesome for me. I still have half a mind to try to make it, though...
Lindenwood University - Rams Executives to Headline Panel Discussion
The Inglewood Stadium Plan Is Cause For Celebration
Mayor butts blasts Zelasko lol
http://kfwbam.com/…/inglewood-mayor...knows-the-cit…/
Senate Committee OKs Limit to Rams Stadium Bonds CBS St. Louis
The single most interesting point made in this interview by Mayor Butts was when he told Zelasco that he doesn't compare any other site to the Inglewood project, and where they are currently. Then he went on to say that Carson, specifically doesn't have a single thing done yet, for the most part, and MOST IMPORTANTLY he stressed that no team was committed to playing there yet because they were both still pursuing deals in their home cities. OH SNAP!! As he was comparing the two sites, he basically said, without saying it outright, that Inglewood DOES have a team that is no longer pursuing a stadium at home. Who would that team be, I wonder? #larams
http://kfwbam.com/…/inglewood-mayor...knows-the-cit…/
st louis fans have tunnel vision.
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Francis Paul Ganon Facebook
On the Fred Roggin show: Stan Kroenke is not the owner other NFL owners want to piss off. He has more $$ than all of you and you want him in LA. He will move the Rams to LA, and he is determined to do so!
A property dispute stalling FarmWorks, an urban agriculture project north of downtown, could complicate plans for an NFL stadium on the St. Louis riverfront."
http://www.stltoday.com/…/article_6...c3-595c-baa0-d…
There is absolutely no way, I believe, that Carson is a reality," Kephart told me. "It is, to me, the most absurd of all the proposals."
http://www.bizjournals.com/…/san-an...viable-option-…
Not all the property owners are on board in st louis.
http://fox2now.com/…/landmark-resta...led-in-footpr…/
Let's see; Carson council member Albert Robles (the infamous San Oakland Charaider fan), a ****ing BILLS fan in LA and that one Bring Back the LA Raiders leader who scoffed at the LA Times poll that we dominated and basically undermined the Rams fan base in So Cal. These people make me sick.
http://www.utsandiego.com/…/charger...fans-carson-s…/
Would L.A. fans pull for the Chargers UTSanDiego.com Mobile
interesting read in breakdown of demographics.
http://missourifreedom.com/sites/de...EEDOM%20127.pdf
NFL Stadium Update - Inglewood Plan vs. Carson
http://abc7.com/archive/8791842/
Jason Million - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Power to the People How You Can Help Keep the Chargers in San Diego - Bolts From The Blue
Fabiani Says Chargers Not Optimistic About Mission Valley KPBS
San Diego Galled by Idea of Losing NFL s Chargers to Glitzy L.A. - Bloomberg Business
Spanos speaks and doesn't sound like he's a 100% douche bag like Fabiani
http://m.utsandiego.com/…/spanos-sp...ers-stadium-a…/
not sounding too good for st lou.lol
http://www.komu.com/news/st-louis-r...ay-nixon-66971/
best article written on this.
http://m.axs.com/news/facts-regardi...y-in-st-l-44623
http://espn.go.com/video/clip…nothing new other than ESPN saying that the chances of the Rams staying in St. Louis is slim to none and that the NFL would like to keep LA open for both Chargers and Raiders to get something done in both San Diego and in Oakland and of course if Stan feels he has the right to go to LA over any other owner he'll take the NFL to court we end up with what happen with the Al Davis case. I'm sure the NFL won't want that to happen and they'll just let Stan take the Rams to LA in 2016.
Rams Kevin Demoff talks about the team and Riverfront Stadium FOX2now.com
ESPN NFL Kroenke sparks NFL chaos
St. Louis Rams owner sparks NFL chaos with plan to move team to Los Angeles - ESPN
Jorge HernandezAudio The Beast 980
wait for the evening and. It will be in the first or second hour of March 18.
The Fred Roggin Show
The Dean of L.A. Sports, Fred Roggin, gives his unique take on the Lakers, Dodgers, Clippers,...
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How To Deal With Stan Kroenke Thief - Turf Show Times
new ram stuff
Apart from the general whining that reeks from this article, I want to point out some major flaws:
The assumption that LA sports fans only care for winning teams is overused and inaccurate. Cities support winning teams and have bandwagon, fair-weather and loyal fans as a result. Cities can't support losing teams, who only have loyal fans supporting them while the bandwagon fans like whoever is winning and the fair-weather fans could care less. There are *certain* exceptions such as the Cleveland Browns, who are depressing as **** but still have a lot of diehard fans. Also...the Lakers are 10th in attendance this year ahead of playoff and title contending teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Wizards, Grizzlies and Hawks. But yeah...go ahead and falsely accuse the Lakers of having "poor" attendance. The Dodgers were first in attendance last season. FIRST. If they "suffered in attendance", then what would that say about the other teams?
We all know by now that TST lost credibility when they called us out during that rally outside the Coliseum when they posted a picture showing only a few Rams fans and mocked us for it. Interesting thing about that is that they didn't acknowledge how many people actually attended the rally. No worries, though. Once the Rams are officially back, we'll have our own pages and websites that are professionally ran while TST will probably be abandoned or shut down
Tipsheet Kroenke s actions speak loudly within NFL Sports
Inglewood apos s forceful mayor wants people to follow his NFL lead - LA Times
check out number one.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/photos...l-051414#img_10
new ram stuff
Finally had a chance to listen to Roggin talking to the Carson mayor. Ol' Fred ripped the mayor apart. (from yesterday's show).
http://kfwbam.com/…/carson-mayor-ji...sponds-to-aeg-…
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Michael Townsend Facebook
Infographic How James Butts made Inglewood LA s unlikely NFL frontrunner 89.3 KPCC
Morning links San Diego Chargers mayor to talk with Roger Goodell - ESPN
Friction between unions developers could snarl Inglewood NFL stadium project
Don't pencil the Raiders into Carson! "In other words, the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles and its shiny new stadium have done little to tempt the Raiders. Despite the optimistic conversation coming out of southern California, the team seems hopeful it can secure a new stadium deal in Alameda County."
"I'm one of these guys that believes the owner is always making the best decision for his business," Kephart says. "I actually think Mark Davis is making the best business decision to stay in Oakland."
http://www.thepostgame.com/…/raider...-solution-oakla
That the Chargers were scheduled to come to LA first, and not the Rams. That they were set to play in downtown LA. Then someone at the last minute stalled. Sam Kronke came in the midst of that confusion and disrupted everything.
He said that chargers had a deal with aeg a few yrs back that was scuttled at the last minute...said that sd had a press conf where they stated their preference for mission valley stadium site and that their counsel mark fabiani is in carson
Thank God it stalled and that Farmers Field is dead now. Inglewood is the much better option for several reasons.
In any case, that is really interesting. So the Chargers actually are interested in LA...too late,
Louis Espinoza Seems to me we dodged a bullet. Wow! Why is SD counsel bark fabiani in Carson?
Los Angeles County Federation of Labor Executive Secretary Rusty Hicks, the guy spearheading this union/signature thing will be on Fred Roggin, Beast 980 live at 2:30pm today.
The Beast 980 The Beast 980
L.A. labor group opposes Inglewood stadium plan ProFootballTalk
As I said, I live in St. Louis. A local college that I am attending has this coming up on Tuesday... Only problem is that I work overnights right now and making this talk could be troublesome for me. I still have half a mind to try to make it, though...
Lindenwood University - Rams Executives to Headline Panel Discussion
The Inglewood Stadium Plan Is Cause For Celebration
Mayor butts blasts Zelasko lol
http://kfwbam.com/…/inglewood-mayor...knows-the-cit…/
Senate Committee OKs Limit to Rams Stadium Bonds CBS St. Louis
The single most interesting point made in this interview by Mayor Butts was when he told Zelasco that he doesn't compare any other site to the Inglewood project, and where they are currently. Then he went on to say that Carson, specifically doesn't have a single thing done yet, for the most part, and MOST IMPORTANTLY he stressed that no team was committed to playing there yet because they were both still pursuing deals in their home cities. OH SNAP!! As he was comparing the two sites, he basically said, without saying it outright, that Inglewood DOES have a team that is no longer pursuing a stadium at home. Who would that team be, I wonder? #larams
http://kfwbam.com/…/inglewood-mayor...knows-the-cit…/
st louis fans have tunnel vision.
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Francis Paul Ganon Facebook
On the Fred Roggin show: Stan Kroenke is not the owner other NFL owners want to piss off. He has more $$ than all of you and you want him in LA. He will move the Rams to LA, and he is determined to do so!
A property dispute stalling FarmWorks, an urban agriculture project north of downtown, could complicate plans for an NFL stadium on the St. Louis riverfront."
http://www.stltoday.com/…/article_6...c3-595c-baa0-d…
There is absolutely no way, I believe, that Carson is a reality," Kephart told me. "It is, to me, the most absurd of all the proposals."
http://www.bizjournals.com/…/san-an...viable-option-…
Not all the property owners are on board in st louis.
http://fox2now.com/…/landmark-resta...led-in-footpr…/
Let's see; Carson council member Albert Robles (the infamous San Oakland Charaider fan), a ****ing BILLS fan in LA and that one Bring Back the LA Raiders leader who scoffed at the LA Times poll that we dominated and basically undermined the Rams fan base in So Cal. These people make me sick.
http://www.utsandiego.com/…/charger...fans-carson-s…/
Would L.A. fans pull for the Chargers UTSanDiego.com Mobile
interesting read in breakdown of demographics.
http://missourifreedom.com/sites/de...EEDOM%20127.pdf
NFL Stadium Update - Inglewood Plan vs. Carson
http://abc7.com/archive/8791842/
Jason Million - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Power to the People How You Can Help Keep the Chargers in San Diego - Bolts From The Blue
Fabiani Says Chargers Not Optimistic About Mission Valley KPBS
San Diego Galled by Idea of Losing NFL s Chargers to Glitzy L.A. - Bloomberg Business
Spanos speaks and doesn't sound like he's a 100% douche bag like Fabiani
http://m.utsandiego.com/…/spanos-sp...ers-stadium-a…/
not sounding too good for st lou.lol
http://www.komu.com/news/st-louis-r...ay-nixon-66971/
best article written on this.
http://m.axs.com/news/facts-regardi...y-in-st-l-44623
http://espn.go.com/video/clip…nothing new other than ESPN saying that the chances of the Rams staying in St. Louis is slim to none and that the NFL would like to keep LA open for both Chargers and Raiders to get something done in both San Diego and in Oakland and of course if Stan feels he has the right to go to LA over any other owner he'll take the NFL to court we end up with what happen with the Al Davis case. I'm sure the NFL won't want that to happen and they'll just let Stan take the Rams to LA in 2016.
Rams Kevin Demoff talks about the team and Riverfront Stadium FOX2now.com
ESPN NFL Kroenke sparks NFL chaos
St. Louis Rams owner sparks NFL chaos with plan to move team to Los Angeles - ESPN
Jorge HernandezAudio The Beast 980
wait for the evening and. It will be in the first or second hour of March 18.
The Fred Roggin Show
The Dean of L.A. Sports, Fred Roggin, gives his unique take on the Lakers, Dodgers, Clippers,...
KFWBAM.COM
How To Deal With Stan Kroenke Thief - Turf Show Times
new ram stuff
Apart from the general whining that reeks from this article, I want to point out some major flaws:
The assumption that LA sports fans only care for winning teams is overused and inaccurate. Cities support winning teams and have bandwagon, fair-weather and loyal fans as a result. Cities can't support losing teams, who only have loyal fans supporting them while the bandwagon fans like whoever is winning and the fair-weather fans could care less. There are *certain* exceptions such as the Cleveland Browns, who are depressing as **** but still have a lot of diehard fans. Also...the Lakers are 10th in attendance this year ahead of playoff and title contending teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Wizards, Grizzlies and Hawks. But yeah...go ahead and falsely accuse the Lakers of having "poor" attendance. The Dodgers were first in attendance last season. FIRST. If they "suffered in attendance", then what would that say about the other teams?
We all know by now that TST lost credibility when they called us out during that rally outside the Coliseum when they posted a picture showing only a few Rams fans and mocked us for it. Interesting thing about that is that they didn't acknowledge how many people actually attended the rally. No worries, though. Once the Rams are officially back, we'll have our own pages and websites that are professionally ran while TST will probably be abandoned or shut down
Tipsheet Kroenke s actions speak loudly within NFL Sports
Inglewood apos s forceful mayor wants people to follow his NFL lead - LA Times
check out number one.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/photos...l-051414#img_10
new ram stuff
Finally had a chance to listen to Roggin talking to the Carson mayor. Ol' Fred ripped the mayor apart. (from yesterday's show).
http://kfwbam.com/…/carson-mayor-ji...sponds-to-aeg-…
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Michael Townsend Facebook
Infographic How James Butts made Inglewood LA s unlikely NFL frontrunner 89.3 KPCC
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Rams Owner Proposes NFL Stadium in Inglewood Hews Media Group-Cerritos Community News
Stadium Group Chairman Financing Plan to Include Mix of Revenue Streams - Times of San Diego
Even the People of England know the truth
“And if any city has the right to claim the Rams as their own, it’s Los Angeles. They were one of the most culturally important teams in the history of the league. They were in LA for the better part of a half-century. So even as people are tearing their hair out in St Louis, a lot of people in Los Angeles feel that this should have happened much sooner.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/…/holl...z-set-to-lure-…
Obama is right to seek an end to taxpayer subsidies for stadiums Kyle Wingfield
some good news from the East Bay area.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...s%29&page=3
Vinne on the raiders,rams,and chargers stadiums.
St. Louis suffers setback potential progress for Raiders in stadium fights The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
Sports Stadiums Are Bad Public Investments. So Why Are Cities Still Paying for Them - Reason.com
Labor group optimistic on agreement with Hollywood Park stadium group - The Orange County Register
**BREAKING NEWS: Oakland City Council just voted unanimously(meaning a "YES" vote) to join the proposed ENA between the City of Oakland, the County of Alameda, and New City Development (Floyd Kephart's group). One remaining MAJOR hurdle to overcome. This coming Tuesday (March 24th between 9:30 am - 12 noon), the County of Alameda will also vote on whether to join the ENA. This NEEDS to take place in order for the stadium negotiations with the Raiders to move forward briskly. Please make plans NOW to attend the County of Alameda vote if you are available to do so. #StayInOakland
Author of In-Depth Stan Kroenke Profile Talks with The Big Show insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
Some Good News For Raiders. Hopefully the Chargers Will follow.
http://www.bizjournals.com/…/oaklan...coliseum-city-…
Anyone else find it amusing to see the city of STL go through all this drama to finance the stadium, yet the owner of their team doesn't care or hasn't agreed to pay his share. Meanwhile he's agreed to put money down in INGLEWOOD.
dont know what to say about these people in the Lou.they are in denial.lol
http://www.inquisitr.com/1943520/st...3jWQ8DxU4kXK.99
things looking good for the raiders.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...o-keep-raiders/
here it is,finally get to see what the stadium will look like.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/l...322-column.html
NFL Owners Meeting 2015 Tracking Latest News Rumors and More Bleacher Report
Stan Kroenke s stadium plan has room for two teams ProFootballTalk
Giants John Mara expects one or two teams in L.A. - NFL.com
Peter King MMQB - Roger Goodell Unplugged Rams ON DEMAND
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
Rams L.A. power play allows NFL to maintain its top leveraging weapon - Yahoo Sports
Stadium Group Chairman Financing Plan to Include Mix of Revenue Streams - Times of San Diego
Even the People of England know the truth
“And if any city has the right to claim the Rams as their own, it’s Los Angeles. They were one of the most culturally important teams in the history of the league. They were in LA for the better part of a half-century. So even as people are tearing their hair out in St Louis, a lot of people in Los Angeles feel that this should have happened much sooner.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/…/holl...z-set-to-lure-…
Obama is right to seek an end to taxpayer subsidies for stadiums Kyle Wingfield
some good news from the East Bay area.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...s%29&page=3
Vinne on the raiders,rams,and chargers stadiums.
St. Louis suffers setback potential progress for Raiders in stadium fights The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
Sports Stadiums Are Bad Public Investments. So Why Are Cities Still Paying for Them - Reason.com
Labor group optimistic on agreement with Hollywood Park stadium group - The Orange County Register
**BREAKING NEWS: Oakland City Council just voted unanimously(meaning a "YES" vote) to join the proposed ENA between the City of Oakland, the County of Alameda, and New City Development (Floyd Kephart's group). One remaining MAJOR hurdle to overcome. This coming Tuesday (March 24th between 9:30 am - 12 noon), the County of Alameda will also vote on whether to join the ENA. This NEEDS to take place in order for the stadium negotiations with the Raiders to move forward briskly. Please make plans NOW to attend the County of Alameda vote if you are available to do so. #StayInOakland
Author of In-Depth Stan Kroenke Profile Talks with The Big Show insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
Some Good News For Raiders. Hopefully the Chargers Will follow.
http://www.bizjournals.com/…/oaklan...coliseum-city-…
Anyone else find it amusing to see the city of STL go through all this drama to finance the stadium, yet the owner of their team doesn't care or hasn't agreed to pay his share. Meanwhile he's agreed to put money down in INGLEWOOD.
dont know what to say about these people in the Lou.they are in denial.lol
http://www.inquisitr.com/1943520/st...3jWQ8DxU4kXK.99
things looking good for the raiders.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...o-keep-raiders/
here it is,finally get to see what the stadium will look like.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/l...322-column.html
NFL Owners Meeting 2015 Tracking Latest News Rumors and More Bleacher Report
Stan Kroenke s stadium plan has room for two teams ProFootballTalk
Giants John Mara expects one or two teams in L.A. - NFL.com
Peter King MMQB - Roger Goodell Unplugged Rams ON DEMAND
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
Rams L.A. power play allows NFL to maintain its top leveraging weapon - Yahoo Sports
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Stan Kroenke is major anti-union. He is not going to get a new stadium built in Inglewood!
unions are pissed that developers have not reached agreements assuring that labor will be part of the project that would create thousands of jobs. Los Angeles County Federation of Labor Executive Secretary Rusty Hicks said in a statement Thursday the group wants “signed, written agreements” from the developer committing to good jobs for construction and operations at the stadium.
“The developer promises Inglewood good jobs. And, the developers have told us the same thing that they told the (Inglewood) City Council: ‘Everything will be OK,’” Hicks said. “But, if there’s one thing the NFL Players Association has taught the rest of us about NFL owners, it’s that you get it in writing before the game is played.”
“We’ve got enough poverty jobs. We don’t need any more,” Hicks added.
A developers’ spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.
The politically powerful unions have been quietly gathering petition signatures in Inglewood that could lead to a local vote on the plan, potentially delaying development of the project. That would seek to override the City Council, which previously endorsed the plan.
unions are pissed that developers have not reached agreements assuring that labor will be part of the project that would create thousands of jobs. Los Angeles County Federation of Labor Executive Secretary Rusty Hicks said in a statement Thursday the group wants “signed, written agreements” from the developer committing to good jobs for construction and operations at the stadium.
“The developer promises Inglewood good jobs. And, the developers have told us the same thing that they told the (Inglewood) City Council: ‘Everything will be OK,’” Hicks said. “But, if there’s one thing the NFL Players Association has taught the rest of us about NFL owners, it’s that you get it in writing before the game is played.”
“We’ve got enough poverty jobs. We don’t need any more,” Hicks added.
A developers’ spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.
The politically powerful unions have been quietly gathering petition signatures in Inglewood that could lead to a local vote on the plan, potentially delaying development of the project. That would seek to override the City Council, which previously endorsed the plan.
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posted from earlier since someone came on here and posted recently.
Even listening to the St Louis sports talk shows, they cannot believe the Rams are still going to be in the EJD for 2015 and have virtually no fans or at least only visiting fans sitting there. MOVE THEM! I can't believe this league is pussy footing this thing around. What possible advantage could forcing the Rams to stay in STL as a lame duck have? Stan is already losing money in STL, is he really willing to set there and lose even more money? I don't get it. I thought these owners were businessmen. A good many of the people in STL have disassociated themselves emotionally from the Rams so why would they buy tickets? If you think of the NFL as a major corporation and the Rams as what is called an Op-Co, why would the parent company want one of its Op-Cos in a situation to lose money? That is not how it works. I work for such a company and they want their Op-Cos to increase their profits each year no matter how well they did the year before. Keeping them in STL for 2015 is not logical in a business sense.
and remember,the st louis media was saying people like me a year ago were living in a fantasyworld.
oh and not only that,as i also posted earlier,stan kroneke's son on twitter tweeted not too long ago that he has been unable to communicate with his father to discuss the denver nuggets that he also owns because he is too busy fast tracking the Rams to LA. true story.
and the chargers spokesperson mark fabiani said on fred roggins sports show out there in LA that the chargers/raiders carson thing is all for leverage "all the thinking people here knew that." and that dean spanos is 100% convinced that Kroneke is going to move the Rams to LA.
plus Rams defensive end grant winstrom also tweeted on twitter that the Rams are as good as gone from the Lou.lol.
the only question NOW is will it be this year or 2016.we wont know for sure till the end of june.
Even listening to the St Louis sports talk shows, they cannot believe the Rams are still going to be in the EJD for 2015 and have virtually no fans or at least only visiting fans sitting there. MOVE THEM! I can't believe this league is pussy footing this thing around. What possible advantage could forcing the Rams to stay in STL as a lame duck have? Stan is already losing money in STL, is he really willing to set there and lose even more money? I don't get it. I thought these owners were businessmen. A good many of the people in STL have disassociated themselves emotionally from the Rams so why would they buy tickets? If you think of the NFL as a major corporation and the Rams as what is called an Op-Co, why would the parent company want one of its Op-Cos in a situation to lose money? That is not how it works. I work for such a company and they want their Op-Cos to increase their profits each year no matter how well they did the year before. Keeping them in STL for 2015 is not logical in a business sense.
and remember,the st louis media was saying people like me a year ago were living in a fantasyworld.
oh and not only that,as i also posted earlier,stan kroneke's son on twitter tweeted not too long ago that he has been unable to communicate with his father to discuss the denver nuggets that he also owns because he is too busy fast tracking the Rams to LA. true story.
and the chargers spokesperson mark fabiani said on fred roggins sports show out there in LA that the chargers/raiders carson thing is all for leverage "all the thinking people here knew that." and that dean spanos is 100% convinced that Kroneke is going to move the Rams to LA.
plus Rams defensive end grant winstrom also tweeted on twitter that the Rams are as good as gone from the Lou.lol.
the only question NOW is will it be this year or 2016.we wont know for sure till the end of june.
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Stan Kroenke Los Angeles Rams owner designs 2-team stadium for Los Angeles area - ESPN Los Angeles
NFL LA Topic "NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has a press conference scheduled for Monday, and owners involved in this project might find themselves in front of a microphone over the next few days, which could help increase leverage in their home market. There will be more work done in back rooms, cultivating league support for moves that require approval from NFL owners."http://bleacherreport.com/…/2405222-nfl-owners-meeting-2015…
NFL LA Topic "NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has a press conference scheduled for Monday, and owners involved in this project might find themselves in front of a microphone over the next few days, which could help increase leverage in their home market. There will be more work done in back rooms, cultivating league support for moves that require approval from NFL owners."http://bleacherreport.com/…/2405222-nfl-owners-meeting-2015…
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Inglewood stadium has room to accommodate two teams. We all know the Rams are one of them.....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/…/stan-kronekes-stadi…/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/…/stan-kronekes-stadi…/
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ust got back from touring Stan's land today at Hollywood Park!!
A few things; First I watched the planes approaching LAX runway North and they flew passing just North of the Forum!
Secondly, the planes using runway Sourh were flying "just" South of the location of the casino. This is even further South of the grandstands that are currently being torn down!
Third, all these planes were up far enough where they won't affect the new stadium site AT ALL!!
There is SO MUCH useable land here at the old Hollywood Park Site, that anybody would have to be a fool to pass up ANY opportunity to develop it. Plus, a stadium here is just going to be magnificent and really bring Inglewood and the entire Westside of Los Angeles back to thrive, especially with the rest of the site development AND the Forum as a concert venue!!
I did some driving around and also saw some machines that look like they are being positioned "on the sidelines" to be put to work very soon! Let's hope Stan is getting ready to start ASAP!
Here are some photos!!
Bring the Rams home NOW Stan!
Among the things the NFL pays attention to,a clubs popularity in L.A.per LA times polling,Rams win that one.Albert Breer.
What makes sense. What is logical. I've been told by an LA sports writer not to apply logic to this relocation situation. Is that an indictment of how the league operates? We have an owner willing to spend 1.86 billion of his own money to build the most beautiful stadium in the land and put the league back in Los Angeles. We have the Raiders who are the never do wells of the league. Looking for a handout because they cannot afford to move or build on their own. We havethe Chargers who are desperate to have a new stadium in San Diego but want the City to pay for it. Despite the fact that Goldman Sachs has stated they can fund a 1.7 billion dollar stadium and cover any loses for 2 years in Carson. The question being is what not do that in San Diego? Do we really believe the NFL would not support Kroenke's plan? I have to believe they would. Despite any protestations which have been made. St Louis has no funding. Even if they did, Kroenke is within his legal rights to move his business (Rams) to a new city if he wishes. Many do not trust the league and what the league will decide. I guess I can be counted among those who have no trust. However logic says to me that this (Kroenke's Stadium) is too good a deal for them to pass on.
I think everyone needs to keep in mind what we heard when the Inglewood plan was first released. The plan was met with quiet applause by league owners. The Rams are coming! It's simply a matter of when!
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
sounds good to me.Rams to LA,Chargers stay in SD and Raiders staying in Oakland.
Sounds good to me . Rams to LA .. Chargers stay in SD and Raiders Staying in Oakland.
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting
Might an NFL team -- such as Stan Kroenke's Rams -- be playing in Los Angeles by 2016? Albert Breer explains why the NFL Annual Meeting is a big mile marker in the league's path...
T.CO
There will be no second NFL team that second Home Team suit and locker room will be for the new MLS team the LAFC
Probably for the 2nd expansion MLS team (Los Angeles F.C.) that could occupy the second home locker room and booth suites.
AGREED.
Wow! Bernie's starting to smell the coffee...somewhat.
http://www.stltoday.com/…/article_6ebf9111-1ad3-5cad-8011-5…
I was at a national conference in Miami this weekend... Ran across some folks from st. Louis... I asked about the Cardinals, spring training etc... "Gush gush gush"
I asked, so what's gonna happen to the Rams? Are they coming back to LA? ... "Who cares"
I actually work with a guy from Stl. He always talks cardinals. Asked him about the Rams, he said "you can have em!"
Yeah that's pretty much every interaction I have with folks from stl. This is both with friends I have there as well as business acquaintances. They could truly care less. Only ones that seem true fans are the ones I've met outside the dome on game day.
http://cover32.com/…/stan-kroenke-is-working-the-room-at-t…/
Stan Kroenke and his camp conveniently unveiled his expanded L.A. stadium plans Saturday night in advance of the NFL owner meetings, which are taking place today through Wednesday.
Kroenke is working the room to garner support for his L.A. ambitions, as you can see in this picture.
Read more athttp://cover32.com/…/stan-kroenke-is-working-the-room-at-…
Rams L.A. power play allows NFL to maintain its top leveraging weapon - Yahoo Sports
Kraft Potential L.A. teams should move together - NFL.com
Los Angeles stadium timeline accelerating - NFL Videos
MUST LISTEN
NFL insider Penalty isn t stiff enough to keep Stan Kroenke from doing what he wants The Beast 980
Listen from 7:30. He says that the Missouri governor is paying for the Riverfront stadium by taking the money away from a planned state mental hospital.
http://kfwbam.com/…/the-nfl-is-playing-catch-up-with-stan-…/
Joe Strauss Talks Kroenke Blues Sweet 16 and Cole Hamels insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife CBS Sports 920 Feature Interviews
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones echoed that "a solution is in the crosshairs."
New York Jets owner Woody Johnson says the L.A. game has changed now that it's existing team owners proposing solutions, as opposed to stadium developers trying to attract teams.
Stan Kroenke ready to show NFL owners detailed Inglewood stadium plans
Stan Kroenke ready to show NFL owners detailed Inglewood stadium plans
"Owners of teams are the only ones who can make the decisions," Johnson said. "The developers can do all they want, but until the owner of a team wants to go out there, it's not going to happen. When they decide they want to go out there. Things happen."
http://www.latimes.com/…/la-sp-nfl-meetings-20150324-story.…
Stan Kroenke s moves make Los Angeles a real possibility - St. Louis Rams Blog - ESPN
Albert Breer is on 920 CBS St Louis radio. Biggest takeaway: LA is a priority for the NFL and if it makes the most sense for it to be the Rams then the league will help make that happen.
On my way into work and Dan Patrick played a clip from a conversation he had with Peter King earlier in the morning regarding LA. Per King's own statement, "My gut tells me it will be the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood, and the Raiders will be in St. Louis. I just can't see Oakland building a viable stadium, and I don't know if the NFL wants anything to do with the Raiders in LA". Considering how close King seems to be with Roger Goodell in terms of news, could that gut feeling be word coming from the NFL meetings?
When I hear a sports announcer state that people will not come out in droves for two teams in LA, am afraid he had a point. He also said one team yes but two unlikely. I think if two teams come out, the RAMS
should be first for awhile. That's only fair considering Stan put up the investment.
Vince Bonsignore posted on twitter that he has been told the owners meetings in May will be very important to the LA stadium process.
I've written a blog post with my complete case as to why the Rams will be back in L.A. in 2016. Hope you guys enjoy.
http://boffo97.tumblr.com/…/why-the-rams-will-return-to-los…
BREAKING NEWS Oakland Coliseum City hit... - Save Oakland Raiders Facebook
Raiders owner Mark Davis shares thoughts at NFL owners meetings The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
The Board of Supervisors today unanimously approved an exclusive negotiating agreement with New City Development LLC to come up with a development plan for the Coliseum area that includes a new stadium for the Oakland Raiders as well as a potential new venue for the Oakland A's.
http://abc7news.com/…/officials-approve-new-agreeme…/571403/
Two NFL teams in Los Angeles for 2016 season actually seems realistic FOX Sports
Check out Tom Bateman at 730pm Pacific, 1030pm Eastern tonight live on the show talking about the NFL owners' meeting in Arizona and how they are impacting the Rams potential return to Los Angeles.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/the-premiere-of-the-passo-ga…
Albert Breer Talks Los Angeles Situation Kroenke and Rams Future Audio Rams News Now
It's all coming together
http://www.usatoday.com/…/dean-spanos-philip-rive…/70394760/
Listen to am 980 right now. Fred Rogan just declared it's the Rams and Chargers . He is going to have mayor Butts on today's show. He stated that mayor Butts knows something that we don't know. Stay tuned.
Inglewood Mayor This is more than a hope and a prayer this is a happening thing The Beast 980
I love it. St louis is living in fantasy land.
http://onanygivensportsday.com/…/facts-regarding-nfl-rams-…/
Fight for NFL team s in Los Angeles heats up
LA Daily News Columnist Vinny Bonsignore Talks Relocation Issue Audio Rams News Now
LAUGHING.
Rams fan protests potential move to Los Angeles at NFL annual meeting For The Win
vincent bonsignore- by the way LA RAM fans who went to the charger and rams game,stan kroneke heard you and Rams officials got the message.
Gray NFL s Stadium Chase Creating Conundrum In Five Locations insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
Youtube Why Stan Kroenke was chuckling at owners meeting Sports
A few things; First I watched the planes approaching LAX runway North and they flew passing just North of the Forum!
Secondly, the planes using runway Sourh were flying "just" South of the location of the casino. This is even further South of the grandstands that are currently being torn down!
Third, all these planes were up far enough where they won't affect the new stadium site AT ALL!!
There is SO MUCH useable land here at the old Hollywood Park Site, that anybody would have to be a fool to pass up ANY opportunity to develop it. Plus, a stadium here is just going to be magnificent and really bring Inglewood and the entire Westside of Los Angeles back to thrive, especially with the rest of the site development AND the Forum as a concert venue!!
I did some driving around and also saw some machines that look like they are being positioned "on the sidelines" to be put to work very soon! Let's hope Stan is getting ready to start ASAP!
Here are some photos!!
Bring the Rams home NOW Stan!
Among the things the NFL pays attention to,a clubs popularity in L.A.per LA times polling,Rams win that one.Albert Breer.
What makes sense. What is logical. I've been told by an LA sports writer not to apply logic to this relocation situation. Is that an indictment of how the league operates? We have an owner willing to spend 1.86 billion of his own money to build the most beautiful stadium in the land and put the league back in Los Angeles. We have the Raiders who are the never do wells of the league. Looking for a handout because they cannot afford to move or build on their own. We havethe Chargers who are desperate to have a new stadium in San Diego but want the City to pay for it. Despite the fact that Goldman Sachs has stated they can fund a 1.7 billion dollar stadium and cover any loses for 2 years in Carson. The question being is what not do that in San Diego? Do we really believe the NFL would not support Kroenke's plan? I have to believe they would. Despite any protestations which have been made. St Louis has no funding. Even if they did, Kroenke is within his legal rights to move his business (Rams) to a new city if he wishes. Many do not trust the league and what the league will decide. I guess I can be counted among those who have no trust. However logic says to me that this (Kroenke's Stadium) is too good a deal for them to pass on.
I think everyone needs to keep in mind what we heard when the Inglewood plan was first released. The plan was met with quiet applause by league owners. The Rams are coming! It's simply a matter of when!
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
sounds good to me.Rams to LA,Chargers stay in SD and Raiders staying in Oakland.
Sounds good to me . Rams to LA .. Chargers stay in SD and Raiders Staying in Oakland.
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting - NFL.com
Los Angeles scenarios coming into focus at NFL Annual Meeting
Might an NFL team -- such as Stan Kroenke's Rams -- be playing in Los Angeles by 2016? Albert Breer explains why the NFL Annual Meeting is a big mile marker in the league's path...
T.CO
There will be no second NFL team that second Home Team suit and locker room will be for the new MLS team the LAFC
Probably for the 2nd expansion MLS team (Los Angeles F.C.) that could occupy the second home locker room and booth suites.
AGREED.
Wow! Bernie's starting to smell the coffee...somewhat.
http://www.stltoday.com/…/article_6ebf9111-1ad3-5cad-8011-5…
I was at a national conference in Miami this weekend... Ran across some folks from st. Louis... I asked about the Cardinals, spring training etc... "Gush gush gush"
I asked, so what's gonna happen to the Rams? Are they coming back to LA? ... "Who cares"
I actually work with a guy from Stl. He always talks cardinals. Asked him about the Rams, he said "you can have em!"
Yeah that's pretty much every interaction I have with folks from stl. This is both with friends I have there as well as business acquaintances. They could truly care less. Only ones that seem true fans are the ones I've met outside the dome on game day.
http://cover32.com/…/stan-kroenke-is-working-the-room-at-t…/
Stan Kroenke and his camp conveniently unveiled his expanded L.A. stadium plans Saturday night in advance of the NFL owner meetings, which are taking place today through Wednesday.
Kroenke is working the room to garner support for his L.A. ambitions, as you can see in this picture.
Read more athttp://cover32.com/…/stan-kroenke-is-working-the-room-at-…
Rams L.A. power play allows NFL to maintain its top leveraging weapon - Yahoo Sports
Kraft Potential L.A. teams should move together - NFL.com
Los Angeles stadium timeline accelerating - NFL Videos
MUST LISTEN
NFL insider Penalty isn t stiff enough to keep Stan Kroenke from doing what he wants The Beast 980
Listen from 7:30. He says that the Missouri governor is paying for the Riverfront stadium by taking the money away from a planned state mental hospital.
http://kfwbam.com/…/the-nfl-is-playing-catch-up-with-stan-…/
Joe Strauss Talks Kroenke Blues Sweet 16 and Cole Hamels insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife CBS Sports 920 Feature Interviews
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones echoed that "a solution is in the crosshairs."
New York Jets owner Woody Johnson says the L.A. game has changed now that it's existing team owners proposing solutions, as opposed to stadium developers trying to attract teams.
Stan Kroenke ready to show NFL owners detailed Inglewood stadium plans
Stan Kroenke ready to show NFL owners detailed Inglewood stadium plans
"Owners of teams are the only ones who can make the decisions," Johnson said. "The developers can do all they want, but until the owner of a team wants to go out there, it's not going to happen. When they decide they want to go out there. Things happen."
http://www.latimes.com/…/la-sp-nfl-meetings-20150324-story.…
Stan Kroenke s moves make Los Angeles a real possibility - St. Louis Rams Blog - ESPN
Albert Breer is on 920 CBS St Louis radio. Biggest takeaway: LA is a priority for the NFL and if it makes the most sense for it to be the Rams then the league will help make that happen.
On my way into work and Dan Patrick played a clip from a conversation he had with Peter King earlier in the morning regarding LA. Per King's own statement, "My gut tells me it will be the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood, and the Raiders will be in St. Louis. I just can't see Oakland building a viable stadium, and I don't know if the NFL wants anything to do with the Raiders in LA". Considering how close King seems to be with Roger Goodell in terms of news, could that gut feeling be word coming from the NFL meetings?
When I hear a sports announcer state that people will not come out in droves for two teams in LA, am afraid he had a point. He also said one team yes but two unlikely. I think if two teams come out, the RAMS
should be first for awhile. That's only fair considering Stan put up the investment.
Vince Bonsignore posted on twitter that he has been told the owners meetings in May will be very important to the LA stadium process.
I've written a blog post with my complete case as to why the Rams will be back in L.A. in 2016. Hope you guys enjoy.
http://boffo97.tumblr.com/…/why-the-rams-will-return-to-los…
BREAKING NEWS Oakland Coliseum City hit... - Save Oakland Raiders Facebook
Raiders owner Mark Davis shares thoughts at NFL owners meetings The NFL in L.A. with Vincent Bonsignore
The Board of Supervisors today unanimously approved an exclusive negotiating agreement with New City Development LLC to come up with a development plan for the Coliseum area that includes a new stadium for the Oakland Raiders as well as a potential new venue for the Oakland A's.
http://abc7news.com/…/officials-approve-new-agreeme…/571403/
Two NFL teams in Los Angeles for 2016 season actually seems realistic FOX Sports
Check out Tom Bateman at 730pm Pacific, 1030pm Eastern tonight live on the show talking about the NFL owners' meeting in Arizona and how they are impacting the Rams potential return to Los Angeles.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/the-premiere-of-the-passo-ga…
Albert Breer Talks Los Angeles Situation Kroenke and Rams Future Audio Rams News Now
It's all coming together
http://www.usatoday.com/…/dean-spanos-philip-rive…/70394760/
Listen to am 980 right now. Fred Rogan just declared it's the Rams and Chargers . He is going to have mayor Butts on today's show. He stated that mayor Butts knows something that we don't know. Stay tuned.
Inglewood Mayor This is more than a hope and a prayer this is a happening thing The Beast 980
I love it. St louis is living in fantasy land.
http://onanygivensportsday.com/…/facts-regarding-nfl-rams-…/
Fight for NFL team s in Los Angeles heats up
LA Daily News Columnist Vinny Bonsignore Talks Relocation Issue Audio Rams News Now
LAUGHING.
Rams fan protests potential move to Los Angeles at NFL annual meeting For The Win
vincent bonsignore- by the way LA RAM fans who went to the charger and rams game,stan kroneke heard you and Rams officials got the message.
Gray NFL s Stadium Chase Creating Conundrum In Five Locations insideSTL.com - St. Louis Sports Music Entertainment and Nightlife STL Rams
Youtube Why Stan Kroenke was chuckling at owners meeting Sports
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Great read
Just went over to KRISTL to see what was going on......Boy are they having a bad day. They are pissed because Warner even said they belong in L.A.
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Great read
Just went over to KRISTL to see what was going on......Boy are they having a bad day. They are pissed because Warner even said they belong in L.A.
" One site that the dirt can be moved as we speak. " Jerry Jones ... You dam right !!!!
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here is why I think the Rams still might be in LA this year rather than 2016.Its 50/50 for this year,100% for next year.this poster is talking about the deadline for relocation in mid february i was talking about.
- I thought the deadline to file for relocation was mid February
- That's just league policy and it can be changed at anytime or ignored by a vote of the owners. The other factor is that they are called guidelines which is just like a road map where you can take different roads to get to the same point.
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"one site that the dirt can be moved as we speak." Jerry Jones.
you damn right jerry.
the hillbillies cant even spell "meeting" right.lol.a good watch anyways nonetheless.
NFL Meeting Update - KMOV.com
Good interview from Kurt Warner..good listen.
Kurt Warner on the possiblity of the Rams moving - KMOV.com
I feel Spanos want's to be in L.A. with Stan. He is doing to SD what Stan is doing to StL. I bet Stan will move 1st and the Chargers will move once the Stadium is built. that gives Stan 2-3 years of L.A. to himself.http://www.utsandiego.com/…/chargers-stadium-spanos-fabian…/
http://www.breitbart.com/…/kurt-warner-rams-have-built-in-…/
That's right Kurt, the Rams belong in LOS ANGELES and it's nice that you are starting to smell the coffee!!
This beat writer gets it. He may not be from the Lou, but he is close enough to have his paper following the Rams. He wrote that the Rams are moving back home.http://www.chillicothetimesbulletin.com/…/1503296…/2000/NEWS
From San Diego. Chargers to L.A. is............(Wait for it!)........Leverage!http://www.utsandiego.com/…/chargers-kroenke-spanos-nfl-ma…/
Rams owner Stan Kroenke is force that won t be stopped
you damn right jerry.
the hillbillies cant even spell "meeting" right.lol.a good watch anyways nonetheless.
NFL Meeting Update - KMOV.com
Good interview from Kurt Warner..good listen.
Kurt Warner on the possiblity of the Rams moving - KMOV.com
I feel Spanos want's to be in L.A. with Stan. He is doing to SD what Stan is doing to StL. I bet Stan will move 1st and the Chargers will move once the Stadium is built. that gives Stan 2-3 years of L.A. to himself.http://www.utsandiego.com/…/chargers-stadium-spanos-fabian…/
http://www.breitbart.com/…/kurt-warner-rams-have-built-in-…/
That's right Kurt, the Rams belong in LOS ANGELES and it's nice that you are starting to smell the coffee!!
This beat writer gets it. He may not be from the Lou, but he is close enough to have his paper following the Rams. He wrote that the Rams are moving back home.http://www.chillicothetimesbulletin.com/…/1503296…/2000/NEWS
From San Diego. Chargers to L.A. is............(Wait for it!)........Leverage!http://www.utsandiego.com/…/chargers-kroenke-spanos-nfl-ma…/
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Rosenbloom no fan of Rams...or Frontiere Jacksonville.com
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Debra E. Callahan Facebook
Bernie NFL will do what it wants Sports
Morning links City county join forces to keep Chargers in San Diego - San Diego Chargers Blog - ESPN
Chargers seem destined to leave San Diego ProFootballTalk
CBS St. Louis reports ""The thing that changes the game with Stan Kroenke...he has a lot of money. He has bought his own land and is going to build his own stadium. That takes all the unlikelihood of getting public financing out of California. His new stadium...contains a second home locker room, second owners box...So that means you can put a team in LA, the Rams. And all the other owners can still (threaten to move into the stadium and become co-tenants with the Rams if they don't get what they want from their markets). That's why I think the Kroenke plan for the first time in two decades, is really serious." http://www.insidestl.com/…/Yahoo-Sports-Dan-Wetzel-on-Likel…
Support Of Robert Kraft Jerry Jones Makes NFL To L.A. A Lock - Forbes
Carson Promblematic?! "Right off the bat, the Carson Stadium is problematic for one key reason, housing division rivals. True, the Jets and Giants both play at MetLife stadium, yet they are not division rivals. In fact, they only have met twelve times during the regular season. Scheduling conflicts would arise and there would have to be conference realignment in order to make this work. Secondly, the rivalry between the Chargers and Raiders not among the most civil when it comes to fan interaction. There has been numerous accounts of fan violence during Charger-Raider match ups. Security is often doubled if not tripled during these games. Making these two teams share a stadium could escalate the problem that is already out of hand." http://lasportshub.com/20…/…/26/nfl-los-angeles-making-move/
Another blog by me on this whole situation. The title may raise some eyebrows... but Spoiler Alert: They cannot.
http://boffo97.tumblr.com/…/…/how-st-louisSo, the league is considering moving up the relocation application date to during the season itself. Hmm. So basically we will let you announce you are moving but you will be playing in front of an empty stadium during home games the rest the season. Why, would they do that? They don't want that! If your going to let the Rams move then do it in May. That still allows time to arrange a schedule in the Coliseum or the Rosebowl. Unfortunately it may mean the team lives and practices in St Louis during the week and then has to fly to LA for each home game. If I was the city of Inglewood and HPLC I would not wait for December to start building. I'd start building as soon as I had all the permits. The more this stadium becomes a physical reallity the more swayed the league will become to say MOVE! Nobody wants a lame duck season.-can-keep-the-rams
Labor Developers Reach Deal on Proposed NFL Stadium - ABC News
Interesting movement in Oakland.
Megadeveloper SunCal jumps aboard Oakland s Coliseum City stadium project - San Francisco Business Times
Just cooperate and stay in san diego dean.
City county uniting in effort to keep Chargers ProFootballTalk
bad news for st louis.
Pres. Obama Calls For Ending Taxpayer-Funded Sports Stadiums Occupy Democrats
I can finally say I honestly feel like it's not if but when will the rams be home! All signs point to a go everything is in line. I can see the ktrisl page finally seeing the writing on the wall! Bernie and Shane are posting less and less. There arguments becoming weaker and weaker and lamer and lamer! It's good to be a rams fan but it's spectacular to be a Los Angeles rams fan! Horns up bbtlr ! LOL.
Some people (those who haven't raised the white flag, which that number is growing in the last few days and I LOVE it) on the K page are still claiming "Kroenke is doing this all for leverage to get what he wants in St. Louis"...this isn't leverage anymore. This is real. If Kroenke were doing this all for leverage, he wouldn't be going as far as he is going right now. Kroenke wants out of St. Louis, and nothing can be done to change his mind. Filling the dome won't matter, getting the stadium deal in place won't matter. Sure, it will impress the NFL and help St. Louis stay in the minds of the NFL when it comes to the Raiders or expansion down the road...but Kroenke wants to bring the team out here. He wants to increase the franchise value, and likely ultimately sell the team after they've been out here for a few years. Kroenke is the ultimate poker player, he has all the cards in his favor, all the money on his side, and he's going to cash out when the largest pot is available to him. Also, there is no way he's building the stadium for the Chargers and Raiders to share. You don't build a lavish mansion with your own money and allow someone else to enjoy it.
NFL owners jump aboard L.A. fast track UTSanDiego.com
made USA TODAY.
Bobby O Connell - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Mayor Butts on Roggin today said there will be something going on next week regarding the stadium
AMEN TO THAT.
Don't take this comment lightly, Jerry Jones just confirmed the Rams are coming to LA! Jerry Jones is one of the most powerful/influential owners in the NFL, his team has the most net worth. If he is saying that the Ingelwood project is going to be built then why would I think otherwise? It is the 2nd best thing to Stan Kroenke saying I am moving to LA. So let us put this together, if Jerry Jones is putting his reputation and inside information after the owner's meetings in AZ out there with "that stadium is going to be built" not maybe, not should be, he is saying "it is going to get built" and we know that Rams owner Stan Kroenke is building it then it follows that he will bring his team, the LA Rams to play in the best sport venue ever built! It is asinine an not logical to think Stan Kroenke is building a mega stadium so two other NFL teams play there other than his own (now that Jerry Jones said it going to get built) not when he will triple the value of his team from the league lowest value at $930,000 million to NFL top 5 tier at $3.2 billion (that is an increase of $2,200 million!!!!) Welcome home LA Rams!!
From 1995 - thinking about the treacherous actions of Georgia Frontiere appear that they shall soon be undone.
"To see what these people have done to destroy a franchise, to grind it into the ground in front of everyone," groused former defensive end Fred Dryer, "then for the so-called leadership to tell people that they're angry that they're not getting a better deal (here), to point their finger at the fans, is blasphemous. It's an outrage. . . . The lawyers and accountants have ruined the team."
http://articles.latimes.com/…/mn-20642_1_team-owner-georgia…
How six NFL owners will change the fate of St. Louis football News
Vincent Delgado - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams - Debra E. Callahan Facebook
Bernie NFL will do what it wants Sports
Morning links City county join forces to keep Chargers in San Diego - San Diego Chargers Blog - ESPN
Chargers seem destined to leave San Diego ProFootballTalk
CBS St. Louis reports ""The thing that changes the game with Stan Kroenke...he has a lot of money. He has bought his own land and is going to build his own stadium. That takes all the unlikelihood of getting public financing out of California. His new stadium...contains a second home locker room, second owners box...So that means you can put a team in LA, the Rams. And all the other owners can still (threaten to move into the stadium and become co-tenants with the Rams if they don't get what they want from their markets). That's why I think the Kroenke plan for the first time in two decades, is really serious." http://www.insidestl.com/…/Yahoo-Sports-Dan-Wetzel-on-Likel…
Support Of Robert Kraft Jerry Jones Makes NFL To L.A. A Lock - Forbes
Carson Promblematic?! "Right off the bat, the Carson Stadium is problematic for one key reason, housing division rivals. True, the Jets and Giants both play at MetLife stadium, yet they are not division rivals. In fact, they only have met twelve times during the regular season. Scheduling conflicts would arise and there would have to be conference realignment in order to make this work. Secondly, the rivalry between the Chargers and Raiders not among the most civil when it comes to fan interaction. There has been numerous accounts of fan violence during Charger-Raider match ups. Security is often doubled if not tripled during these games. Making these two teams share a stadium could escalate the problem that is already out of hand." http://lasportshub.com/20…/…/26/nfl-los-angeles-making-move/
Another blog by me on this whole situation. The title may raise some eyebrows... but Spoiler Alert: They cannot.
http://boffo97.tumblr.com/…/…/how-st-louisSo, the league is considering moving up the relocation application date to during the season itself. Hmm. So basically we will let you announce you are moving but you will be playing in front of an empty stadium during home games the rest the season. Why, would they do that? They don't want that! If your going to let the Rams move then do it in May. That still allows time to arrange a schedule in the Coliseum or the Rosebowl. Unfortunately it may mean the team lives and practices in St Louis during the week and then has to fly to LA for each home game. If I was the city of Inglewood and HPLC I would not wait for December to start building. I'd start building as soon as I had all the permits. The more this stadium becomes a physical reallity the more swayed the league will become to say MOVE! Nobody wants a lame duck season.-can-keep-the-rams
Labor Developers Reach Deal on Proposed NFL Stadium - ABC News
Interesting movement in Oakland.
Megadeveloper SunCal jumps aboard Oakland s Coliseum City stadium project - San Francisco Business Times
Just cooperate and stay in san diego dean.
City county uniting in effort to keep Chargers ProFootballTalk
bad news for st louis.
Pres. Obama Calls For Ending Taxpayer-Funded Sports Stadiums Occupy Democrats
I can finally say I honestly feel like it's not if but when will the rams be home! All signs point to a go everything is in line. I can see the ktrisl page finally seeing the writing on the wall! Bernie and Shane are posting less and less. There arguments becoming weaker and weaker and lamer and lamer! It's good to be a rams fan but it's spectacular to be a Los Angeles rams fan! Horns up bbtlr ! LOL.
Some people (those who haven't raised the white flag, which that number is growing in the last few days and I LOVE it) on the K page are still claiming "Kroenke is doing this all for leverage to get what he wants in St. Louis"...this isn't leverage anymore. This is real. If Kroenke were doing this all for leverage, he wouldn't be going as far as he is going right now. Kroenke wants out of St. Louis, and nothing can be done to change his mind. Filling the dome won't matter, getting the stadium deal in place won't matter. Sure, it will impress the NFL and help St. Louis stay in the minds of the NFL when it comes to the Raiders or expansion down the road...but Kroenke wants to bring the team out here. He wants to increase the franchise value, and likely ultimately sell the team after they've been out here for a few years. Kroenke is the ultimate poker player, he has all the cards in his favor, all the money on his side, and he's going to cash out when the largest pot is available to him. Also, there is no way he's building the stadium for the Chargers and Raiders to share. You don't build a lavish mansion with your own money and allow someone else to enjoy it.
NFL owners jump aboard L.A. fast track UTSanDiego.com
made USA TODAY.
Bobby O Connell - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
Mayor Butts on Roggin today said there will be something going on next week regarding the stadium
AMEN TO THAT.
Don't take this comment lightly, Jerry Jones just confirmed the Rams are coming to LA! Jerry Jones is one of the most powerful/influential owners in the NFL, his team has the most net worth. If he is saying that the Ingelwood project is going to be built then why would I think otherwise? It is the 2nd best thing to Stan Kroenke saying I am moving to LA. So let us put this together, if Jerry Jones is putting his reputation and inside information after the owner's meetings in AZ out there with "that stadium is going to be built" not maybe, not should be, he is saying "it is going to get built" and we know that Rams owner Stan Kroenke is building it then it follows that he will bring his team, the LA Rams to play in the best sport venue ever built! It is asinine an not logical to think Stan Kroenke is building a mega stadium so two other NFL teams play there other than his own (now that Jerry Jones said it going to get built) not when he will triple the value of his team from the league lowest value at $930,000 million to NFL top 5 tier at $3.2 billion (that is an increase of $2,200 million!!!!) Welcome home LA Rams!!
From 1995 - thinking about the treacherous actions of Georgia Frontiere appear that they shall soon be undone.
"To see what these people have done to destroy a franchise, to grind it into the ground in front of everyone," groused former defensive end Fred Dryer, "then for the so-called leadership to tell people that they're angry that they're not getting a better deal (here), to point their finger at the fans, is blasphemous. It's an outrage. . . . The lawyers and accountants have ruined the team."
http://articles.latimes.com/…/mn-20642_1_team-owner-georgia…
How six NFL owners will change the fate of St. Louis football News
Vincent Delgado - Photos of Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams Facebook
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NFL to Los Angeles Who is Making the Move
Support for relocation growing among NFL powers FOX Sports
Mike Tannenbaum has dream job with Dolphins - Sports - The Boston Globe
Still wishing for "leverage" LMAO.....
"Brett @bbgunnerschae
@nwagoner#RamsMailWhy are some so quick to rule out Kroenke using LA as leverage? Isn't that exactly what he wants everyone to think?"
-"@nwagoner: Because this thing is so far down the tracks that it seems incredibly naive to think it's solely a leverage play. Now, it's certainly true that he's created leverage in St. Louis by doing what he's done and never actually coming out and saying his intentions. It's good business and nobody is better at that aspect than Kroenke. Still, none of the owners I talked to in Phoenix seem to think it's solely a leverage play and his actions don't indicate that, either. If it was, it'd be one of the most expensive and elaborate ones of all time."
Mike Tannenbaum has dream job with Dolphins - Sports - The Boston Globe
SILENT NO MORE
Kroenke making a lot of noise about LA
St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke is called “Silent Stan” by many around the NFL for his desire to stay out of the media and keep his intentions close to the vest. But commissioner Roger Goodell and the other owners might call him “Stan the Savior” soon if he can pull off a potentially brilliant stadium/relocation plan.
Owners made no secret last week at their meetings that they want two teams in Los Angeles for the 2016 season, and Kroenke is the linchpin. His Rams are one of three candidates to move to LA, along with the Chargers and Raiders, and Kroenke revealed a futuristic $1.8 billion stadium project last week on the land he owns in Hollywood Park that is the clear favorite of the NFL’s potential LA projects.
Kroenke is quite serious about LA, and was not-so-silent at the owners meetings, noticeably chatting up fellow owners between sessions and spending what seemed like an hour with a Los Angeles reporter at the league’s big party on Monday night.
And Kroenke just might be able to keep happy almost every party invested with the LA relocation. St. Louis and Missouri civic leaders are still working on developing a new downtown stadium plan to save the Rams, but there’s also a scenario in which the Raiders, not the Rams, become the tenant.
What’s shaping up to be the NFL’s perfect scenario has the Rams and Chargers moving to a new stadium in LA and the Raiders to St. Louis, giving the NFL the two teams it craves in LA, an expensive new stadium in the entertainment capital of the world, new stadiums for all three teams, and the continuation of football in St. Louis. Fans in Oakland and San Diego might not love this proposal, but the NFL could easily justify that the Chargers would still be in Southern California, while the NFL still has a major presence in the Bay Area with the 49ers.
The only things certain about LA at this point: 1. The NFL doesn’t believe two LA teams plus a San Diego team could survive, and 2. The Raiders can’t anchor LA by themselves. Several options are on the table, although there’s growing sentiment that the Chargers are tired of failed negotiations with their city and are primed to move north.
But what’s also becoming certain is that Kroenke is the key piece to solving the NFL’s two-decade LA problem and ending the long-running stadium woes for all three teams in one fell swoop.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/…/OLFCGDvYJkeAgXkIjqW…/story.html
St. Louis seems to be much farther along in the process than Oakland or San Diego. But owner Stan Kroenke remains, as Thomas characterizes it, on a “bullet train” to L.A."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/…/tisch-says-st-louis…/
THATS A LAUGH.
Albert Breer NFL May Nudge Raiders to St. Louis The DA Show CBS Sports Radio
I had a talk with one STL Rams fan while I was in Winter Park, skiing and she told me that our Rams are going back to LA and she's not going to spend a dime on building a new stadium to keep the Rams in St. Louis.
more BS on the raiders leaving oakland.
One NFL-to-Los Angeles scenario that s gaining steam has the Oakland Raiders moving to St. Louis - Yahoo Finance
Support for relocation growing among NFL powers FOX Sports
Mike Tannenbaum has dream job with Dolphins - Sports - The Boston Globe
Still wishing for "leverage" LMAO.....
"Brett @bbgunnerschae
@nwagoner#RamsMailWhy are some so quick to rule out Kroenke using LA as leverage? Isn't that exactly what he wants everyone to think?"
-"@nwagoner: Because this thing is so far down the tracks that it seems incredibly naive to think it's solely a leverage play. Now, it's certainly true that he's created leverage in St. Louis by doing what he's done and never actually coming out and saying his intentions. It's good business and nobody is better at that aspect than Kroenke. Still, none of the owners I talked to in Phoenix seem to think it's solely a leverage play and his actions don't indicate that, either. If it was, it'd be one of the most expensive and elaborate ones of all time."
Mike Tannenbaum has dream job with Dolphins - Sports - The Boston Globe
SILENT NO MORE
Kroenke making a lot of noise about LA
St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke is called “Silent Stan” by many around the NFL for his desire to stay out of the media and keep his intentions close to the vest. But commissioner Roger Goodell and the other owners might call him “Stan the Savior” soon if he can pull off a potentially brilliant stadium/relocation plan.
Owners made no secret last week at their meetings that they want two teams in Los Angeles for the 2016 season, and Kroenke is the linchpin. His Rams are one of three candidates to move to LA, along with the Chargers and Raiders, and Kroenke revealed a futuristic $1.8 billion stadium project last week on the land he owns in Hollywood Park that is the clear favorite of the NFL’s potential LA projects.
Kroenke is quite serious about LA, and was not-so-silent at the owners meetings, noticeably chatting up fellow owners between sessions and spending what seemed like an hour with a Los Angeles reporter at the league’s big party on Monday night.
And Kroenke just might be able to keep happy almost every party invested with the LA relocation. St. Louis and Missouri civic leaders are still working on developing a new downtown stadium plan to save the Rams, but there’s also a scenario in which the Raiders, not the Rams, become the tenant.
What’s shaping up to be the NFL’s perfect scenario has the Rams and Chargers moving to a new stadium in LA and the Raiders to St. Louis, giving the NFL the two teams it craves in LA, an expensive new stadium in the entertainment capital of the world, new stadiums for all three teams, and the continuation of football in St. Louis. Fans in Oakland and San Diego might not love this proposal, but the NFL could easily justify that the Chargers would still be in Southern California, while the NFL still has a major presence in the Bay Area with the 49ers.
The only things certain about LA at this point: 1. The NFL doesn’t believe two LA teams plus a San Diego team could survive, and 2. The Raiders can’t anchor LA by themselves. Several options are on the table, although there’s growing sentiment that the Chargers are tired of failed negotiations with their city and are primed to move north.
But what’s also becoming certain is that Kroenke is the key piece to solving the NFL’s two-decade LA problem and ending the long-running stadium woes for all three teams in one fell swoop.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/…/OLFCGDvYJkeAgXkIjqW…/story.html
St. Louis seems to be much farther along in the process than Oakland or San Diego. But owner Stan Kroenke remains, as Thomas characterizes it, on a “bullet train” to L.A."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/…/tisch-says-st-louis…/
THATS A LAUGH.
Albert Breer NFL May Nudge Raiders to St. Louis The DA Show CBS Sports Radio
I had a talk with one STL Rams fan while I was in Winter Park, skiing and she told me that our Rams are going back to LA and she's not going to spend a dime on building a new stadium to keep the Rams in St. Louis.
more BS on the raiders leaving oakland.
One NFL-to-Los Angeles scenario that s gaining steam has the Oakland Raiders moving to St. Louis - Yahoo Finance
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just like i called it in the beginning.
Good Listen.
...Carson was just a big bluff, a leverage play if you will … The real threat will be in Inglewood.
http://kfwbam.com/…/carson-was-just-a-big-bluff-a-leverage…/
Good Listen.
...Carson was just a big bluff, a leverage play if you will … The real threat will be in Inglewood.
http://kfwbam.com/…/carson-was-just-a-big-bluff-a-leverage…/
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