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In the early automobile days consumers had three choices....Steam, electric, and ICE vehicles....All had about the same market share at the time.....ICE won and continues to win.....Why get off a winning horseless buggy?
yet, they do burn fossil fuels in rainforests, to chop down the trees to make wind turbines, so I can agree they are fools building wind turbinesOnly morons build solar farms atop coal seams ... only idiots burn fossil fuels in the rainforest ...
You forget the rare earth minerals needed to make the motors, they consist of ytrium, samarium, and a couple of others that I forget, those are far less available than the fossil fuels being expended to mind them.View attachment 918187
This photo below is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car. To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.
~S~
And what do you do with millions of EV batteries after they've pooped out?View attachment 918187
This photo below is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car. To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.
~S~
I am waiting----I will not buy anything with a lithum recharge thingyCEO steps down after being hit with expensive EV repairs and low resale prices following purchase of 100,000 Teslas
CEO steps down after being hit with expensive EV repairs and low resale prices following purchase of 100,000 Teslas
Stephen Scherr ran Hertz for just over two years before stepping down on Friday.fortune.com
I just went and bought a 5.7 V8 truck.I am waiting----I will not buy anything with a lithum recharge thingy
sheeeesh SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION!!!!!!!
Cell phones and laptops all have them....It's nearly impossible to have a modern electronic thingy without them.I am waiting----I will not buy anything with a lithum recharge thingy
sheeeesh SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION!!!!!!!
Great for hand tools, and small tech, but that's about it.Cell phones and laptops all have them....It's nearly impossible to have a modern electronic thingy without them.
