Evil As An Element Of Politics

[PoliticalChic]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

This thread again?

Fuckinay...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written between 1940 and 1943 by Austrian British economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek, in which the author "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (including National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

The new Liberals of today want someone else to take care of them, as it requires lots of work, to be self sufficient. Once they relinquish their rights for the common good(Socialism) soon there will be tyranny that they cant recover from.. We saw it with the USSR, Cuba, Venezuela and even Germany, as Socialism always ends in disaster....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written between 1940 and 1943 by Austrian British economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek, in which the author "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (including National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

The new Liberals of today want someone else to take care of them, as it requires lots of work, to be self sufficient. Once they relinquish their rights for the common good(Socialism) soon there will be tyranny that they cant recover from.. We saw it with the USSR, Cuba, Venezuela and even Germany, as Socialism always ends in disaster....

".... Liberals of today want someone else to take care of them, as it requires lots of work, to be self sufficient."

Well....to be fair.....that is what the totalitarians promised them.

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. For obvious reasons, the Leftist political iterations.... Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.....

...do everything possible to hide and disguise the evil that they commit.






Hide the evil by blaming the other side for it....

a. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism.


“Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Progressive Support for Italian and German Fascism - Discover the Networks
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism





6. Now...take the Holocaust as an example....although American President #32 actually authorized concentration camps for his citizens, and while Nazis, Fascists, and Communists were once one big, comfortable association with American Progressives, and that very same President, the catalog of Nazi crimes caused American Progressives to suddenly claim that....no, Nazis were not really of the Left...they were really Rightwing (wink wink).



One of the tell-tale signs:
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being Rightwing.

 

[alang1216]

Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being Rightwing.

Rewriting history yet again. One would think that if your case was strong you'd not have to twist the truth quite so much.

The majority of scholars identify Nazism, in practice, as a bizarre form of right-wing extremism.[7] Many Nazis were advocates of third positionism when it came to economics. This meant that they were opposed to both socialism (especially communism) and capitalism, despite many being advocates of the right to own private property. Where they differ from capitalists and conservatives (when it comes to economics) is that they openly advocated a kind of symbiosis between the state and big business, where the state would favor certain companies (German-owned, of course) in return for them doing favors to the state. Basically, the Nazis openly endorsed crony corporatism, whereas most modern-day conservatives and right-wingers oppose it, at least in theory.

Notable Americans try to push Nazism to the other side of the political spectrum, or deny that Nazism was truly right-wing. While it's obvious that Nazism is completely different from the politics of their own party (in that Nazism is much further to the right with its advocacy of anti-Semitism, genocide, misogyny, etc.) that does not mean it wasn't right-wing. Its form of right-wing politics, however, is removed from the vast majority of today's mainstream conservatism (neoconservatism should tell you that quite blatantly).

The Nazi sympathizers in Charlottesville were certainly not liberals.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's hear no more nonsense about Nazism being Rightwing.

Rewriting history yet again. One would think that if your case was strong you'd not have to twist the truth quite so much.

The majority of scholars identify Nazism, in practice, as a bizarre form of right-wing extremism.[7] Many Nazis were advocates of third positionism when it came to economics. This meant that they were opposed to both socialism (especially communism) and capitalism, despite many being advocates of the right to own private property. Where they differ from capitalists and conservatives (when it comes to economics) is that they openly advocated a kind of symbiosis between the state and big business, where the state would favor certain companies (German-owned, of course) in return for them doing favors to the state. Basically, the Nazis openly endorsed crony corporatism, whereas most modern-day conservatives and right-wingers oppose it, at least in theory.

Notable Americans try to push Nazism to the other side of the political spectrum, or deny that Nazism was truly right-wing. While it's obvious that Nazism is completely different from the politics of their own party (in that Nazism is much further to the right with its advocacy of anti-Semitism, genocide, misogyny, etc.) that does not mean it wasn't right-wing. Its form of right-wing politics, however, is removed from the vast majority of today's mainstream conservatism (neoconservatism should tell you that quite blatantly).

The Nazi sympathizers in Charlottesville were certainly not liberals.

"Rewriting history yet again. One would think that if your case was strong you'd not have to twist the truth quite so much."

Not true, you oaf.

If the truth was taught in government school....I would not have this task.



The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

 

[alang1216]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

Why so fearful?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

This thread again?
Fuckinay...

And yet EVERY time she makes a great post, there you are....sissy ass fisher-price toy rifles in hand....trying your best to shoot her down.

(But you always miss.....of course)

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

ALL the Democrat Party members that matter and can change things

 

[alang1216]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

Why so fearful?

Because I'm familiar with your history of a loose association with facts.

 

[alang1216]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

ALL the Democrat Party members that matter and can change things

Really? How about Hillary Clinton, how do her aims and designs for society match those of the Communist Party?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

ALL the Democrat Party members that matter and can change things

Really? How about Hillary Clinton, how do her aims and designs for society match those of the Communist Party?

Let's check.

How about you take a look at the aims of the Communist Party, USA, and the aims of the modern Democrat Party.


Watch, and note the consubstantial basis of both the aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party:

......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. . Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce



Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?

I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals



You might take a look at this one, too.
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.



"Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

And this:

"Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917(Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately."
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


They didn't call it ObamaCare....




....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University


President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”
Obama Downplays Difference Between Capitalism, Communism [VIDEO]




"Obama Said Hillary will Continue His Legacy and Indeed She Will!"
Obama Said Hillary will Continue His Legacy and Indeed She Will!


QED....
Democrats-> Liberals-> Communists

 

[alang1216]

The aims and designs for society of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are nearly identical.

The Democrat Party or some members of the Democrat Party?

ALL the Democrat Party members that matter and can change things

Really? How about Hillary Clinton, how do her aims and designs for society match those of the Communist Party?

Let's check.

How about you take a look at the aims of the Communist Party, USA, and the aims of the modern Democrat Party.


Watch, and note the consubstantial basis of both the aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party:

......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

4. . Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce



Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?

I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals



You might take a look at this one, too.
10 planks of Communist manifesto
Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.



"Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street"
Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

And this:

"Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917(Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately."
Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


They didn't call it ObamaCare....




....we are now free of that inordinate fear of communism.... Jimmy Carter Jimmy Carter: UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - Address at Commencement Exercises at the University


President Barack Obama downplayed the differences between capitalism and communism, claiming that they are just “intellectual arguments.” He urged those at a town hall eventin Buenos Aires, Argentina on Wednesday to “just choose from what works.”
Obama Downplays Difference Between Capitalism, Communism [VIDEO]




"Obama Said Hillary will Continue His Legacy and Indeed She Will!"
Obama Said Hillary will Continue His Legacy and Indeed She Will!


QED....
Democrats-> Liberals-> Communists

An impressive cut & paste job but as usual you confuse quantity with quality. You list 13 aims of the Democratic Party but give no Democratic Party sources, The National Democratic Party published their platform for the 2016 election and I don't see any of your 13 points listed. How can that be?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread again?
Fuckinay...

And yet EVERY time she makes a great post, there you are....sissy ass fisher-price toy rifles in hand....trying your best to shoot her down.

(But you always miss.....of course)

I shot her bullshit down so many times and so brutally that she put me on ignore and refuses to debate me.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread again?
Fuckinay...

And yet EVERY time she makes a great post, there you are....sissy ass fisher-price toy rifles in hand....trying your best to shoot her down.

(But you always miss.....of course)

I'll debate you. You agree with her that Liberalism and Nazism are the same thing?

Let's debate that.

 

[Tax Man]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

You truly are a great fiction writer! So much bovine excrement matter pours from your hands, mouth.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's not reach for the low-hanging fruit, and claim that the two are synonyms. The fence-sitters notwithstanding, they aren't.


pol·i·tics
noun
1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
Google


2. Central to the term 'politics' and the defining characteristic as far as 'evil' in involved, is how the aim of governance is achieved. Is it based on informed decisions of the governed, or by force and coercion?
Is governance aimed to improve the life of the individual, or of the collective, as represented by government itself.
For context:

a. America was founded on these principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

b. In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
“ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

c. In the Leftist sort of governance, it flexes its muscle by shackling the individual via regulations and taxation. While some level of these are necessary, at some point they become onerous....and evil.

Under Leftist plans, there seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;
Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115




3.Here....the birth of Leftist governance: As set forth during the French Revolution, once government decides on 'truth,' or 'the general will,' any individual who doesn't come on board should be put to death, or punished in a severe way. This is the Leftist view writ large.

It is the premise of all Leftist schemes: Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, and Progressivism.

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety").

This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror




4. "Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. "http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873


When evil is associated with politics,.....it is from the Left.

You truly are a great fiction writer! So much bovine excrement matter pours from your hands, mouth.

You forgot to include any aspect of my posts that is not 100% true, accurate and correct.

Hence, inadvertently, you have verified all.

Excellent.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You agree with her that Liberalism and Nazism are the same thing?

Let's debate that.

I'm fairly confident that you don't know what either one of those actually mean.