Evidence of Trump Campaign/Russian Interference and Collusion Mounting

[iceberg]

With news that Trump campaign manager is going to be indicted, revelations of secret meetings between trump officials and Russians, meetings the trump team members consistently lied about, it looks apparent that the evidence of interference and collusion is mounting to form an airtight case being prepared by Special Prosecutor Mueller.

vox.com/2017/9/18/16330978/paul-manafort-wiretap-indictment

so this is a strange admission that currently there simply is no evidence.

got it.

 

[Camp]

With news that Trump campaign manager is going to be indicted, revelations of secret meetings between trump officials and Russians, meetings the trump team members consistently lied about, it looks apparent that the evidence of interference and collusion is mounting to form an airtight case being prepared by Special Prosecutor Mueller.

vox.com/2017/9/18/16330978/paul-manafort-wiretap-indictment

so this is a strange admission that currently there simply is no evidence.

got it.

The secret meetings and lying about them are evidence of conspiracy and collusion. No matter how much you ignore or deny, a jury that hears that information will see it as evidence.

 

[jc456]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

we will? why? we are about our laws. so post evidence we have refuted.

 

[iceberg]

With news that Trump campaign manager is going to be indicted, revelations of secret meetings between trump officials and Russians, meetings the trump team members consistently lied about, it looks apparent that the evidence of interference and collusion is mounting to form an airtight case being prepared by Special Prosecutor Mueller.

vox.com/2017/9/18/16330978/paul-manafort-wiretap-indictment

so this is a strange admission that currently there simply is no evidence.

got it.

The secret meetings and lying about them are evidence of conspiracy and collusion. No matter how much you ignore or deny, a jury that hears that information will see it as evidence.

just because they didn't tell you about the meeting doesn't make it a secret. "lying" - that is such a loose term anymore. i also couldn't tell you all the meetings i've had and i'm not running for president. but funny how something so simple is so damning but when someone actually does something and is caught, so innocent - if you like 'em.

at this point all they would see is a bunch of butt-hurt whining.

 

[Spare_change]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

"Dream a little dream with me ... "

 

[hunarcy]

You might want to inform the people who spend billions on ads with the intention to change votes. Aren't they targeted at people not planning to vote for them?


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What part of FOREIGN GOVERNMENT do you not understand?

Perhaps if Hillary hadn't blatantly gotten involved with the last Russian election, Putin would not have returned the favor. It wasn't that he wanted Trump, it's that he wanted to pay back Hillary.

It is totally unfair how all this evidence about trump campaign collusion with the Russians is coming out. Totally unfair.

I never said anything about it being unfair. However, since you bring it up, It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me

Now, since you can't really point to any "trump campaign collusion" and just want to keep wasting time, I'll leave you to it.

This is from Sharyl Attkisson who claimed she was hacked by CIA when her delete key got stuck.
Here's the rub: the vast majority of the FBI operates autonomously from the white house. The FBI investigates criminals, and Trump campaign hired one of them.

You can minimize her claim and post the story as if it was confirmed that the problem was the delete key. I have no idea if the key was stuck or not. All I can do is present her claim and let her defend it. If you want to be taken seriously, post the video and prove the problem was the delete key.

 

[hunarcy]

With news that Trump campaign manager is going to be indicted, revelations of secret meetings between trump officials and Russians, meetings the trump team members consistently lied about, it looks apparent that the evidence of interference and collusion is mounting to form an airtight case being prepared by Special Prosecutor Mueller.

vox.com/2017/9/18/16330978/paul-manafort-wiretap-indictment

And it doesn't stop this is the news today--Wednesday 09/20/2017 on Manafort.

President Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort offered to provide "private briefings" on the 2016 race to a Russian billionaire with close ties to the Kremlin, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.
Less than two weeks before Trump cinched the Republican presidential nomination, Manafort offered the briefings to an intermediary, asking that the message be relayed to Oleg Deripaska, an aluminum magnate allied with Russian President Vladimir Putin and with whom Manafort had worked in the past.
“If he needs private briefings we can accommodate,” Manafort reportedly wrote in an email sent July 7, 2016.

Report: Manafort offered 'private briefings' to Russian billionaire during election
Manafort offered to give Russian billionaire ‘private briefings’ on 2016 campaign

What the Trump team never realised is they were being watched since 2015, and not necessarily by U.S. intelligence services.

GCHQ--first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
British intelligence passed Trump associates' talks with Russian on to US counterparts - CNNPolitics

Which is why Trump Jr. couldn't even pull off a secret meeting in the Trump tower in June 2016.


Which is why Shep Smith knew in February 2017, that Trump surrogates were on the phone with Russian Intelligence agents, including the very day that DNC databases were hacked into. While Trump and his aids denied any contact with any Russians during the campaign season (17 TIMES.)
Kushner contradicts Trump team's denials of Russia contacts - CNNPolitics


Mueller has convened two Grand Jury's, has added another 15 criminal prosecutors, money laundering experts and last week the criminal division of the IRS to his team. While Trump is under investigation for Obstruction of Justice.
Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say
Special Counsel Robert Mueller using grand jury in widening Russia probe
Mueller’s Dream Team Gears Up

It didn't help Trump--when he went on an NBC interview with Lestor Holt and admitted he fired Comey over the Russian investigation.


The news is coming out so fast on this investigation now, it's actually hard to keep up with.

MSNBC--Rachel Maddow is covering this investigation like no other, using credible & trusted sources with links and reporting on the testimony coming out of the senate and house intelligence committees. Which is why her ratings and viewership have soared past FOX NEWS & CNN.
Rachel Maddow crushes Fox News in August; CNN gaining fast
In Trump era, Rachel Maddow starts beating Fox News

All bullshit. The Obama administration illegally wiretapped Trump associates. The meeting with the Russian lawyer and Trump associates was a setup in an effort to obtain more warrants. The hens are coming home to roost.

I don't know about that...the Manaford tap was apparently authorized under a FISA warrant.

How that fisa warrant was illegally approved what stinks.

You'd have to prove the warrant was illegally approved. I think that if a judge approves it, it's legal.

 

[hunarcy]

Wasn't that the whole primes of your conspiracy theory, Russia influenced the way people voted. Are you now saying you're full of it?


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Changing votes and influencing votes are worlds apart

You might want to inform the people who spend billions on ads with the intention to change votes. Aren't they targeted at people not planning to vote for them?


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What part of FOREIGN GOVERNMENT do you not understand?

Perhaps if Hillary hadn't blatantly gotten involved with the last Russian election, Putin would not have returned the favor. It wasn't that he wanted Trump, it's that he wanted to pay back Hillary.

"Perhaps if Hillary hadn't blatantly gotten involved with the last Russian election, Putin would not have returned the favor. "


What a contrived load of garbage. Putin has been doing this for a long time in countries all over the globe. Of course he is going to do it to his biggest rival.

Why Putin hates Hillary

 

[hunarcy]

With news that Trump campaign manager is going to be indicted, revelations of secret meetings between trump officials and Russians, meetings the trump team members consistently lied about, it looks apparent that the evidence of interference and collusion is mounting to form an airtight case being prepared by Special Prosecutor Mueller.

vox.com/2017/9/18/16330978/paul-manafort-wiretap-indictment

so this is a strange admission that currently there simply is no evidence.

got it.

The secret meetings and lying about them are evidence of conspiracy and collusion. No matter how much you ignore or deny, a jury that hears that information will see it as evidence.

Manaford was doing it on behalf of the campaign? You can prove this?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump will drop the hammer on Mewloler as soon as his first indictment has nothing to do with Russian collusion/hacking. He'll have Sessions charge him with prosecutorial misconduct

Who said it had anything to do with colusion

Russians hacked our election
Trump benefitted from the hack

How does one hack an election? That's absurd.

Hacked DNC computers and used the information to influence the election

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Completely unprompted, Mike Pence declares he was not aware of collusion with Russia
Completely unprompted, Mike Pence declares he was “not aware” of collusion with Russia

Sure, Uptighty Whitey, I believe you (wink, wink) . . .

Pence’s outburst also come hours after it was revealed that then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort offered to give a Russian billionaire connected to Vladimir Putin “private briefings” on the Trump campaign.

It is well-known that Russian operatives who promised dirt on Hillary Clinton met with the highest level members of the Trump campaign, including Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and current senior White House adviser.

Appearing on CBS This Morning, Pence was asked by anchor Charlie Rose if he felt Mueller’s investigation was overstepping its bounds, an allegation Trump himself has made.

After noting that determination was “for others to say,” Pence then shifted focus and, completely unprompted, told Rose, “I’ve made clear that during my time on the campaign, I was not aware of any contacts or any collusion with Russian officials.”

 

[Camp]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

It has been provided numerous times in this thread. You just deny it is evidence. How many times does it have to be posted? How many links do you need? You are really demanding "smoking gun" evidence. Smoking gun evidence is rare and cases are prosecuted without that kind of evidence every day. Smoking gun evidence can be a subjective term. An email or communications intercept revealing an attempt or agreement to brief Russian sources by a campaign official may be considered smoking gun evidence. That is what Manafort is accused of doing and what it appears the prosecutor has evidence to prove.

If you are sitting on a jury and the prosecutor shows evidence of an agreement or attempt to an agreement to meet with and brief or disclose campaign strategic information to a foreign government that is suspected of trying to interfere with an election it is fair to assume that that evidence will influence your judgement that collusion or an attempt at collusion has occurred. Hence, the information provided by the prosecutor is evidence.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

Provide any evidence that there is a "crooked Hillary" lol

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

This report tells us why Trump is so afraid of Robert Mueller’s investigation
Mueller wants documents from the White House about several decisions Trump has made as president.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

Provide any evidence that there is a "crooked Hillary" lol

And here I thought everyone had seen the emails. I guess it's hard to read them with your head so far up your rectum, though. Make sure you come up for air.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

It has been provided numerous times in this thread. You just deny it is evidence. How many times does it have to be posted? How many links do you need? You are really demanding "smoking gun" evidence. Smoking gun evidence is rare and cases are prosecuted without that kind of evidence every day. Smoking gun evidence can be a subjective term. An email or communications intercept revealing an attempt or agreement to brief Russian sources by a campaign official may be considered smoking gun evidence. That is what Manafort is accused of doing and what it appears the prosecutor has evidence to prove.

If you are sitting on a jury and the prosecutor shows evidence of an agreement or attempt to an agreement to meet with and brief or disclose campaign strategic information to a foreign government that is suspected of trying to interfere with an election it is fair to assume that that evidence will influence your judgement that collusion or an attempt at collusion has occurred. Hence, the information provided by the prosecutor is evidence.

All we have are statements from the media. We have no actual evidence of collusion or hacking.

The email was never shown, it was merely stated that one existed. That's not evidence. If it is, I can tell you that I have an email from Hillary praising Satan.

No evidence was shown, it was merely stated that it exists, which isn't the same thing. If you have the email, feel free to show it to me.

 

[Camp]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

If you are sitting on a jury and the prosecutor points to the defendants and tells you those people are guilty of conspiring to collude with associates of the Russian government to interfere and influence the Presidential election, and those defendants are proven to be connected to the Presidential campaign, and the people they conspired with are proven to be connected to the Russian government, you will expect the prosecutor to provide evidence that a conspiracy may have occurred. When the prosecutor shows you that the defendants tried to repeatedly hide the meetings and contacts, that is evidence that you might consider relevant to forming your opinion, but it is evidence whether it influences your opinion or not.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Trump's base will refuse to acknowledge evidence, no matter what. Like he said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not make a difference to his base. His base will not be on the grand jury or the trial juries of his associates. Rational people will probably be on those juries. Rational people will recognize evidence when they see it.

What evidence is his base refusing to acknowledge? Please, provide the evidence in question.

If you are sitting on a jury and the prosecutor points to the defendants and tells you those people are guilty of conspiring to collude with associates of the Russian government to interfere and influence the Presidential election, and those defendants are proven to be connected to the Presidential campaign, and the people they conspired with are proven to be connected to the Russian government, you will expect the prosecutor to provide evidence that a conspiracy may have occurred. When the prosecutor shows you that the defendants tried to repeatedly hide the meetings and contacts, that is evidence that you might consider relevant to forming your opinion, but it is evidence whether it influences your opinion or not.

Not only would that not be against the law, but who in Trump's campaign team was tied to the Russian government, and what evidence do you have supporting that they were?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Mueller will never, Never, NEVER EVER IN A BILLION YEARS indict ANYONE for anything even remotely related to "Putin hacked Hillarys election" because it's automatically hardwired directly into Democrats having Seth Rich whacked for downloading and disseminating their hateful, racist emails

More and more, it's looking like all Mueller is going to get is some fiddling by Manafort in the early 2000s.

Facebook has more collusion with Russia than Trump.

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