Osomir
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What about violent verses in the Quran? The degradation of women in muslim texts? I don't get it...
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What about violent verses in the Quran? The degradation of women in muslim texts? I don't get it...
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If the Bible cannot be trusted because it was corrupted by Jews (or that certain books which were God’s word were magically vanished by the Catholic Church as many ignorant pagans claim), then why do Muslims also claim that it was because God did away with the Bible to replace it with something better? Which is it?: The Jews defeated God or God negated his word?God is above any form of humanness.
Islam does not teach that the Bible was true. Islam teaches that God revealed a book to Jesus, the Gospel. God Almighty Himself revealed the real Gospel to Jesus, the real Torah to Moses, the Qur'an to Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family)....
God did not intend to protect the Gospel from being changed. Jesus is not the last prophet. But Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) is the last prophet.
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Some things just seem to give credence to some peoples view of Islam.What about violent verses in the Quran? The degradation of women in muslim texts? I don't get it...
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Some things just seem to give credence to some peoples view of Islam.What about violent verses in the Quran? The degradation of women in muslim texts? I don't get it...
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[Muhammad said]: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense.
Sahih Muslim, Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, Number 142.
The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said: "Yes." He said: "This is because of the deficiency of her mind."
Sahih Al-Bukhari
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." It seems these particular martyrs of Islam are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This seems like the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'
Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."
Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."
These are just a few verses I just don't understand is all. I mean they seem on the surface to be bad.
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Islam, the Qur'an or Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) do not oppress women. They respect them greatly and protect them. A man is not bettter than a woman, and a woman is not better than a man; except through God fear.
God says:
"(she said): (...) And no wise is the male like the female. I have named her Mary"
The Holy Qur'an, The Family of Imran (Surah 3), V 36
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's remembrance (God's remembrance), for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward."
The Holy Qur'an, the Confederates (Surah 33), V 35
Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) said:
"The best of you is the one who treats his wife the best."
How many towns have We destroyed (for their sins)? Our punishment took them on a sudden by night or while they slept for their afternoon rest.
Islam, the Qur'an or Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) do not oppress women. They respect them greatly and protect them. A man is not bettter than a woman, and a woman is not better than a man; except through God fear.
God says:
"(she said): (...) And no wise is the male like the female. I have named her Mary"
The Holy Qur'an, The Family of Imran (Surah 3), V 36
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's remembrance (God's remembrance), for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward."
The Holy Qur'an, the Confederates (Surah 33), V 35
Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) said:
"The best of you is the one who treats his wife the best."
Don't forget to beat your wife.
Quran 4.34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because God has given
the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their
means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the
husband's) absence what God would have them guard. As to those women on whose
part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share
their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not
against them Means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, great (above you all).