Environmental Religious Zealots, you have blood on your hands because of "CLEAN ENERGY".

[Mikeoxenormous]

Wow! Windmills sound pretty bad. Certainly not as friendly as coal!

Coal only contains arsenic, mercury, uranium, beryllium, nickel, that stuff is super toxic but it isn't a windmill or anything!

Wouldn't it be cool if just ANY of you ever learned about the chemistry of coal?

So why is China still building coal fired power plants when we went to clean Natural Gas or Nuclear. Oh yeah, because you cant say anything bad about China because Joe Biden is owned by China....


That's actually a big part of the reason California has so much smog. "Scientists found Asian air pollution contributed as much as 65 percent of an increase in Western ozone in recent years," NPR reported. "China and India, where many consumer products are manufactured, are the worst offenders."

China Is Polluting California's Air - Treehugger​

www.treehugger.com/china-polluting-californias-air-4857698

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

So why is China still building coal fired power plants when we went to clean Natural Gas or Nuclear. Oh yeah, because you cant say anything bad about China because Joe Biden is owned by China....

LOL. Your point has exactly NOTHING whatsoever to do with the relative dangers of coal. But it gave you a chance to make a dig at Biden, so kudos?

That's actually a big part of the reason California has so much smog. "Scientists found Asian air pollution contributed as much as 65 percent of an increase in Western ozone in recent years," NPR reported. "China and India, where many consumer products are manufactured, are the worst offenders."

China Is Polluting California's Air - Treehugger​

www.treehugger.com/china-polluting-californias-air-4857698

That's because coal is extremely dirty!

The real issue is: what are YOU doing about decreasing America's reliance on consumer goods made in China?

Huh?

Oh, nothing? No, you're ranting on a computer that was made in China and you're wearing clothing made in 3rd world countries so you don't have to pay a fair market value for the good.

You're really showing Biden what for!

 

[jc456]

LOL. Your point has exactly NOTHING whatsoever to do with the relative dangers of coal. But it gave you a chance to make a dig at Biden, so kudos?



That's because coal is extremely dirty!

The real issue is: what are YOU doing about decreasing America's reliance on consumer goods made in China?

Huh?

Oh, nothing? No, you're ranting on a computer that was made in China and you're wearing clothing made in 3rd world countries so you don't have to pay a fair market value for the good.

You're really showing Biden what for!

maybe because coal is burned? hahahahahahahahaha dude, do you share a brain with someone? when is it your turn to use it?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

maybe because coal is burned?

Wha? Are you on cough medicine today?

hahahahahahahahaha dude, do you share a brain with someone? when is it your turn to use it?

The wit is just off-tha-chain!

 

[jc456]

Wha? Are you on cough medicine today

Are you sharing?

 

[DukeU]

Brainwashed ignorant hate...

Which part is hate?

Turbines ultimately favour birds indirectly, according to the American bird conservancy, because they slow down climate change and help preserve endangered habitats.

So, why the fines?

 

[elektra]

Statistics provided by the Fish & Wildlife Service are bullshit?
How else then do you want francoHFW to "prove your points"?

The Fish and Wildlife service are counting every bird killed flying into a window?

Go ahead and prove that, should be easy, right. Prove it. You people are so full of shit, when shown that wind turbines are killing eagles, owls, hawks, and falcons, your response is a sparrow got killed by a bird so it is okay that when you destroy birds that are endangered, threatened to go extinct.

Your argument is a pigeon flew into a window? And at that you can not prove it!

I walked through new your city many many times, I have not once tripped over the millions of birds, the billions of birds you claim are dead in the streets.

I been in the hotels, the restaurants, thousands, millions, billions of birds did not fly into the window while I ate dinner.

You people are so full of shit it is sick, but hey, you got a google link saying you are right. So that must be the truth, right, whatever google links to is true?

Yep, you drank the kool aid and prove that the democrats are not the party of science.

 

[elektra]

bs lol

4000 times as many are killed by buildings, ditto for cats, super dupe ignoramus. All those eagles? Tiny amount, nothing compared to the benefits of cutting pollution DUH....Change the channel and try reality....

you are not cutting pollution by building a 500 ft tall wind turbine that slices and dices eagles.

Building are killing eagles? You are full of shit.

Cutting pollution, by killing eagles, cutting down trees, and then manufacturing a giant wind turbine that gives us almost no electricity in return.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, all the companies that installed the first generation went bankrupt, and all those wind turbines broke and were thrown in the garbage.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, the science to fix the problem was, "make them big". At that, those companies went broke, and all the turbines were thrown in the garbage.

Now the same happened to the 3rd generation.

4th generation wind turbines, science has fixed the problem, the solution, "make them bigger". Now you want to make 1000 ft tall wind turbines? Yet you told us all, that they were the solution at 75', at 125', at 300', at 500', now all those solutions are wrong and science says a 1000' tall?

you are a fucking moron, comparing the life of maybe one sparrow to destroying an entire species.

 

[francoHFW]

you are not cutting pollution by building a 500 ft tall wind turbine that slices and dices eagles.

Building are killing eagles? You are full of shit.

Cutting pollution, by killing eagles, cutting down trees, and then manufacturing a giant wind turbine that gives us almost no electricity in return.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, all the companies that installed the first generation went bankrupt, and all those wind turbines broke and were thrown in the garbage.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, the science to fix the problem was, "make them big". At that, those companies went broke, and all the turbines were thrown in the garbage.

Now the same happened to the 3rd generation.

4th generation wind turbines, science has fixed the problem, the solution, "make them bigger". Now you want to make 1000 ft tall wind turbines? Yet you told us all, that they were the solution at 75', at 125', at 300', at 500', now all those solutions are wrong and science says a 1000' tall?

you are a fucking moron, comparing the life of maybe one sparrow to destroying an entire species.

4000x as many run into windows and cats. sorry about reality. And turbines work fine. We have 300 within 25 miles and they shut up with your crap....

 

[elektra]

4000x as many run into windows and cats. sorry about reality. And turbines work fine. We have 300 within 25 miles and they shut up with your crap....

It would be nice if you could prove your bullshit.

We are talking about an endangered speices getting slaughtered by thousands of of wind turbines and your scientific reply is, "a sparrow got ate by my cat after getting stunned flying into my house".

That is your science that we are to believe.

We are talking about eagles and you think the should be killed cause cats kill sparrows?

Democrats believe their opinion is sclience.

 

[initforme]

Let someone with common sense speak so you can quit your little temper fits at each other. There is room for both fossil fuels and alternatives. We can do both and improving both, because neither source is currently efficient and both have their limitations. There, now take a breath little ones.

 

[fncceo]

I wonder where the 8 million dollars went?

Not to the bird's families.

 

[elektra]

Wow! Windmills sound pretty bad. Certainly not as friendly as coal!

Coal only contains arsenic, mercury, uranium, beryllium, nickel, that stuff is super toxic but it isn't a windmill or anything!

Wouldn't it be cool if just ANY of you ever learned about the chemistry of coal?

"Any of you", you assume much about any of us while showing your own ignorance.

Wouldn't it be cool if the green energy advocates understood the science used in manufacturing the millions of wind turbines.

Coal, building wind turbines has increased the use of coal. You must use coal in the blast furnace that makes fiberglass for the turbine blades.you must use coal to make the steel towers.

Coal is used to make the copper for the generator. Coal is used to make the rear in the base for the wind turbine.

Coal, thousands of tons per wind turbine.

Wind turbines have dramatically taken over as one of the largest consumers of coal.

 

[elektra]

Let someone with common sense speak so you can quit your little temper fits at each other. There is room for both fossil fuels and alternatives. We can do both and improving both, because neither source is currently efficient and both have their limitations. There, now take a breath little ones.

There is room for both? Alternatives are failing. How is there room for a failing technology?

 

[surada]

you are not cutting pollution by building a 500 ft tall wind turbine that slices and dices eagles.

Building are killing eagles? You are full of shit.

Cutting pollution, by killing eagles, cutting down trees, and then manufacturing a giant wind turbine that gives us almost no electricity in return.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, all the companies that installed the first generation went bankrupt, and all those wind turbines broke and were thrown in the garbage.

Wind turbines are so poor at generating electricity, the science to fix the problem was, "make them big". At that, those companies went broke, and all the turbines were thrown in the garbage.

Now the same happened to the 3rd generation.

4th generation wind turbines, science has fixed the problem, the solution, "make them bigger". Now you want to make 1000 ft tall wind turbines? Yet you told us all, that they were the solution at 75', at 125', at 300', at 500', now all those solutions are wrong and science says a 1000' tall?

you are a fucking moron, comparing the life of maybe one sparrow to destroying an entire species.

Bird deaths down 70 percent after painting wind turbine blades

The study ran for nine years at Norway's Smøla wind farm.

arstechnica.com

 

[surada]

Hawks, eagles and owls all eat songbirds.

 

[elektra]

Bird deaths down 70 percent after painting wind turbine blades

The study ran for nine years at Norway's Smøla wind farm.

arstechnica.com

Where is the study. Articles making claims about a study are nothing more than propaganda.

 

[surada]

Where is the study. Articles making claims about a study are nothing more than propaganda.

The Wind Sector Trend Helping to Minimize Bird Deaths

Avian mortality is an enduring challenge for the wind energy industry, but bigger turbines could help.

www.greentechmedia.com

 

[elektra]

The Wind Sector Trend Helping to Minimize Bird Deaths

Avian mortality is an enduring challenge for the wind energy industry, but bigger turbines could help.

www.greentechmedia.com

Not a study. Don't worry though, I can find it and determine if a study of 4 wind turbines is valid.

 

[Mac-7]

Turbines ultimately favour birds indirectly, according to the American bird conservancy, because they slow down climate change and help preserve endangered habitats.

I agree that human need for energy is more important than a few stray birds

and if reports are accurate somebody found a remedy by painting one blade black

but posting puffed up lies about climate change to justify the windmills is insulting