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Yeah but Barry Manalow isn't and he used to work and play with Barbara back in the day go figure.
Ah yes, another shining example of tolerance and freedom.
Elton John said the whole thing sober and didn't apoligize and consider sensitivity training immedaitely afterwards. He's standing by what he said.
You mean like the tolerance and freedom religious folk show towards gays? That kinda tolerance? Note he said organised religion. He still thinks there should be religion, just not organised in the way it is
Then let him organise his own.
As long as any religion has a negative impact on somebody else, they can say what they like about that religion...take Islam for example....
What does Johny's ugly public statements have to do with a toungue in cheek exchange between two friends? I've known 90K for about two years from another board.And why shouldn't he stand by what he said? Just read some of the answers on this thread by Glock and 90K...
Here's my take: I hate organized religion. But if I were in the position of power to do so, I wouldn't ban it. Elton John expressed his opinions and, while I don't fully agree with the thought behind banning religion, I like what he does have to say. There is a lot of insensitivity and bullshit that emenates from religion, but it should be observed that it is the people, not the faith.
I don't recall any organized religion wanting to ban gays.
Note I said I wouldn't ban organized religion. I said I disliked it. And evil done in the name of organized religion is done by man, not the religion itself.It should also be observed that religious organizations donate millions of dollars and man-hours taking care of people all over the world. If it weren't so evil, I would like for them to take a day or two off from what they do so taxpayers could see what kind of tab they would have to pick up should they ban the most charitable organizations in the world.
Mel Gibson was villified for his terrible rant, even though he was by all accounts stinking drunk, and most likely not thinking very clearly. Did you see someone here defending it? Elton, on the other hand, was apparently sober and very serious.
No, I do not expect Elton to "love" me or my beliefs. What I would hope for (not expect, because, he is after all a lib) is some of the same tolerance and freedom of behavior that he (and others like him) demand from everyone else. But not to be, ey?
Frankly, I am surprised that you would defend such religion-phobic intolerance, Jillian.
Are you really that surprised?
Note I said I wouldn't ban organized religion. I said I disliked it. And evil done in the name of organized religion is done by man, not the religion itself.