Eliminate Poverty: Possible or Pipe Dream?

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    Do you think it's possible to eliminate all poverty?

    Is it something that may be accomplished naturally?

    Is it something that can only be accomplished via government intervention?

    Do you think it's an "ain't never gonna happen" pipe dream?

    If it's a pipe dream, how much is too much to be spending toward an unattainable goal?

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    I don't think its possible to completely eliminate poverty, I mean the whole point of welfare and cash aid is to try and stop people from being completely poor but so many people abuse it, even if you personally gave every homeless person $10,000 each, most of them would end back on the streets in less than 2 weeks because thats all they know.
     
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    I hear this accusation levied often. But I still have never seen any hard evidence to support it. Anecdotal stories abound, but that's not what I would consider hard evidence. Approximately what percentage of welfare aid spent by the government do you think ends up in the pockets of undeserving abusers of the system?
     
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    Poverty cannot be eliminated. Without poor people, there would be no rich people.

    Poverty can be managed though, and should be. The most successful countries have the least amount of poverty-stricken people and the bulk of their population in the middle class.

    Kind of like the US used to be.
     
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    Pipe dream. Some people simply choose to be poor.
     
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    Or they don't know how not to be poor.

    Just like the vast majority of middle class don't know how to be rich.
     
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    To be honest we can never get hard numbers because nobody who is abusing welfare is going to step forward and admit it, how many people on welfare can rise out of it and become successful though? I hear welfare is really easy to get on but hard to get out of.
     
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    It must be possible because Deanna Troi said, "Poverty was eliminated on Earth a long time ago and a lot of other things disappeared with it-- hopelessness, despair, cruelty..."

    There 'ya go.
     
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    So eliminating poverty is indeed just a pipe dream.
     
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    Do you think it's possible to eliminate all poverty? Ever since we started civilization, there has been poor people. So the odds a vast that it can be eliminated.

    Is it something that may be accomplished naturally? Anyone, in America, can pull themselves out of poverty by themselves. However the system is set up that it's better to be on the dole, than working your way off. Outside of America, the rules change, so I can't make an informed comment.

    Is it something that can only be accomplished via government intervention? We've had welfare since the 30's, and we still have poor. So no.

    Do you think it's an "ain't never gonna happen" pipe dream? Yes. But that's not an excuse not to try.

    If it's a pipe dream, how much is too much to be spending toward an unattainable goal? When it's easier to stay on welfare, than it is being off of it. Like it is now. The working poor have a little to show for the effort, while people on welfare have homes with yards that are paid for by the working poors taxes. [not just, but it makes my point]
     

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