Education in our country is simply unacceptable

BallsBrunswick

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I am of the opinion that the more intelligent your society is, the more prosperous your society will be. There is a direct correlation between a person's education and their income level. And I think it could be argued the same correlation exists on a national level.

I do believe in our education system and I think we have a good basic system in place for our children. What bothers me though is how much of our emphasis has shifted from education to less important things. And the scariest thing is how much higher education is being pushed away from young people due to rising costs.

American at one time was the best educated country in the world. When the government needed engineers for it's various programs in the golden age of the post-war boom, a significant percentage of the kids at the time were ushered into various government sponsored programs and eventually university degrees and very meaningful lives. There was also a time when it was possible to pay for a college education and an apartment on a part-time job.

However now the average college student has to amass several years worth of debt to pay for a college education thereby basically making them an indentured servant for the early part of their adulthood. Also the average cost of tuition for a four year jumped 15% from 2010 to 2012 and steadily climbs every year.

I can write a bunch more on this subject but I think you get my point. This government and this country really needs to re-focus it's energy on education and I'd even go as far to say we should consider subsidizing higher education on a more profound level.
 
Yes, republicans want to kill public education, keep the worker dumb, you keep him dependent.
 
It's a tragedy. The TEACHERS UNIONS will not allow any meaningful changes to Public School Education. They have a gravy train to protect! Introduce market forces into the Public Education monopoly and things would improve rapidly..... vouchers anyone?

:lol:
 
Yes, republicans want to kill public education, keep the worker dumb, you keep him dependent.

The only groups "kill(ing) public education" are the bloated, over-fed teacher's unions.

Clearly you missed the education part of your life, teachers unions are NOT the problem here, it's closet cock suckers like you who make it harder for teachers to do their jobs. I bet you never stepped foot in a class room as a teacher.
 
It's a tragedy. The TEACHERS UNIONS will not allow any meaningful changes to Public School Education. They have a gravy train to protect! Introduce market forces into the Public Education monopoly and things would improve rapidly..... vouchers anyone?

:lol:

Voucher programs and lotto programs failed, he'll even the people who thought up charter schools says it's a big fail. Also catholic school are closing faster than flies to shit.
 
It's a tragedy. The TEACHERS UNIONS will not allow any meaningful changes to Public School Education. They have a gravy train to protect! Introduce market forces into the Public Education monopoly and things would improve rapidly..... vouchers anyone?

:lol:

Voucher programs and lotto programs failed, he'll even the people who thought up charter schools says it's a big fail. Also catholic school are closing faster than flies to shit.

yeah, sure.

:lol:
 
It's a tragedy. The TEACHERS UNIONS will not allow any meaningful changes to Public School Education. They have a gravy train to protect! Introduce market forces into the Public Education monopoly and things would improve rapidly..... vouchers anyone?

:lol:

Voucher programs and lotto programs failed, he'll even the people who thought up charter schools says it's a big fail. Also catholic school are closing faster than flies to shit.

yeah, sure.

:lol:

Hey you can look for your self, look up who thought up the idea of charter schools and loom at what they said. Is right there in writing
 
I am of the opinion that the more intelligent your society is, the more prosperous your society will be. There is a direct correlation between a person's education and their income level. And I think it could be argued the same correlation exists on a national level.

I do believe in our education system and I think we have a good basic system in place for our children. What bothers me though is how much of our emphasis has shifted from education to less important things. And the scariest thing is how much higher education is being pushed away from young people due to rising costs.

American at one time was the best educated country in the world. When the government needed engineers for it's various programs in the golden age of the post-war boom, a significant percentage of the kids at the time were ushered into various government sponsored programs and eventually university degrees and very meaningful lives. There was also a time when it was possible to pay for a college education and an apartment on a part-time job.

However now the average college student has to amass several years worth of debt to pay for a college education thereby basically making them an indentured servant for the early part of their adulthood. Also the average cost of tuition for a four year jumped 15% from 2010 to 2012 and steadily climbs every year.

I can write a bunch more on this subject but I think you get my point. This government and this country really needs to re-focus it's energy on education and I'd even go as far to say we should consider subsidizing higher education on a more profound level.

Subsidize it...more?

LOL

That was a joke OP, right?
 
You want to improve the colleges and make them more affordable, get federal money out of them. Everything the feds make money available for has gone up considerably more than inflation. There is no incentive to hold cost down when the government will subsidize it no matter the cost. The same applies to medicine.
 
Nope, we need to dump the Unions, dump unacceptable teachers.

Institute performance reviews with teeth....

Revamp pay structures, divert more money to GOOD teachers and less to administration.



I am of the opinion that the more intelligent your society is, the more prosperous your society will be. There is a direct correlation between a person's education and their income level. And I think it could be argued the same correlation exists on a national level.

I do believe in our education system and I think we have a good basic system in place for our children. What bothers me though is how much of our emphasis has shifted from education to less important things. And the scariest thing is how much higher education is being pushed away from young people due to rising costs.

American at one time was the best educated country in the world. When the government needed engineers for it's various programs in the golden age of the post-war boom, a significant percentage of the kids at the time were ushered into various government sponsored programs and eventually university degrees and very meaningful lives. There was also a time when it was possible to pay for a college education and an apartment on a part-time job.

However now the average college student has to amass several years worth of debt to pay for a college education thereby basically making them an indentured servant for the early part of their adulthood. Also the average cost of tuition for a four year jumped 15% from 2010 to 2012 and steadily climbs every year.

I can write a bunch more on this subject but I think you get my point. This government and this country really needs to re-focus it's energy on education and I'd even go as far to say we should consider subsidizing higher education on a more profound level.
 
Yes, republicans want to kill public education, keep the worker dumb, you keep him dependent.

The only groups "kill(ing) public education" are the bloated, over-fed teacher's unions.

Clearly you missed the education part of your life, teachers unions are NOT the problem here, it's closet cock suckers like you who make it harder for teachers to do their jobs. I bet you never stepped foot in a class room as a teacher.

Typical liberal response, luke. You disagree with a statement, you respond with insults and invective.

And you're absolutely CLUELESS about what I have done in classrooms.
 
NYC spends $18K per student and 1/3 drop the fuck out. Of the 2/3 who "Graduate" 3/4 of them are fucking illiterates

That's a Prog success, a generation of government dependent morons
 
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As much as I would like to lay all the blame on the teachers and their union, good amount of the blame must also be placed at the feet of some parents and students. Too many parents today see the schools as little more than free day care, they do not take an active role in helping to educate their children nor do they take the time to encourage their children to learn and ask questions. Many times, an education is what you, the student, make it. I had many a sorry teacher coming up through the public school system. In many instances I got as much from their classes as I did from those of teachers who gave a damn. How? By asking questions and engaging the teacher, making him or her work. My parents were also there, encouraging me to do better, and urging me work harder when I fell short.

It seems to me that the education system failing on two fronts...
 
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