Economy continuing to collapse : trucking volume is collapsing and will be going down

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    Economy continuing to collapse : trucking volume is collapsing and will be going down

    Trucking Volume Collapses, Falls Most Month To Month Since March 2009



    Tonnage fell by 2.7% from July to August, according to the American Trucking Association.

    That's the biggest month over month fall since March 2009.


    The chief economist at the ATA, Bob Costelo, says this slowdown was expected and that it should be slowing further with the economy for the remainder of the year.
     
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    The two times that the Baltic Dry Index went up in the past two years were directly related to the Chinese stimulus program. They spent over a Trillion Dollars boosting their economy by buying lots and lots and lots of raw product at discount. It was shipped to China and stored most anywhere for future use.

    Their stimulus program (Even though their manufacturing capacity is half that of the US) was almost twice our stimulus in the same time.
     
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    Just wait till we "recover" and fuel goes to $5.
     
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    In some of your futures you will see a move back towards localized production and manufacture.
     
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    That is a pipe dream of democrats. It will not happen in our lifetime. Large container ships are extremely efficient. Far more fuel is used transporting from port to your Wal-Mart store or driving to Wal-Mart to purchase the item than was used to ship it from China.

    Until China is forced to impose tough environmental mandates & not fill the oceans & air with garbage, nothing will change.
     
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    It is a coming fact not a pipe dream.
    As energy gets more expensive and scarcer in oil at least we WILL move back more towards local economies.

    the problem for the USA is that it was designed and constructed around abundant cheap energy.
     
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    Your commute to work or store will suffer more than ocean & rail transport. Unless you make & grow the things you want or need within walking distance, this will not happen. Make it yourself or buy it from China, that is your only choice. If anyone thinks they can open a business to make things here to sell they are deluded. It is far to expensive to manufacture here & to many rules, regs & taxes. Every day new companies relocate manufacturing to China.

    Transporting goods is very energy efficient. Transporting people in the USA is not energy efficient. The population will move to the cities & close to their jobs, school & shopping long before manufacturing will return to the USA. It is more energy efficient to shop on-line & order something from China & have it delivered to your door than for the average American to drive their fat ass to the store & back.

    The USA is a innovative, service & consumer economy. Dumbocrats need to quit dreaming of bring back jobs pounding rivets in a dirty manufacturing plant that Americans don't want in their back yard & won't work at anyway.
     
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    Anyone know what percentage of cost of imported Chinese goods is due to transportation costs?

    I am talking about finished good shipping from factory to retail establishment. Not just to a US distributor.

    Of course you could add in the transportation costs for the materials used to make the finished good for sale.
     
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    Only the shipping cost from China to the US matter, as if we made the stuff here, We would still have to ship it all around the country.

    A massive Container ship is by far the Most efficient means of cargo transportation on earth. Nothing else can move so much for so cheap.
     

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