Eastern Siberian Perma frost thaw acceleratring.

[Dot Com]

Know what this means right?

Thawing permafrost: The speed of coastal erosion in Eastern Siberia has nearly doubled

Depending on the kind of erosion and the particular structure of the coast, between 88 and 800 tons of plant-, animal, and microorganism-based carbon are currently washed into the sea per year and kilometre of coastline – these are materials that had been sealed in the permafrost thus far. With regard to the Laptev Sea, this translates into approximately one eighth of the organic carbon that is transported by the Lena River annually – and the Lena is a river that encompasses a drainage basin the size of the Mediterranean.

 

[Kosh]

It means that AGW church members will come out from their chapel and claim this is all about "Global Warming" or "Climate Change", not realizing this has all happened before and it will happen again.

CO2 does not control climate.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Uh oh, looks like we need a carbon tax!

Fuck if I care.

 

[Dot Com]

Uh oh, looks like we need a carbon tax!

Fuck if I care.

exactlies. Those polluters externalities don't just disappear. Someone has to absorb them. Know what an externality is? google it.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It means we're FUCKED.

 

[Old Rocks]

As the amount of open water increases by the decade, the freezing of the open water releases heat, not only slowing the freezeup, but also decreasing the differance between that temperature of the atmosphere between the Arctic and the temperate zone. That is changing the shape of the jet stream circulation, and the speed at which the Rossby waves move. Resulting in fronts and storms lingering longer, moving slower.

 

[ScienceRocks]

SO the skeptics are saying that methane doesn't cause warming....

LOL

 

[RollingThunder]

It means that AGW church members will come out from their chapel and claim this is all about "Global Warming" or "Climate Change", not realizing this has all happened before and it will happen again.

CO2 does not control climate.

Endlessly repeating your extremely idiotic denier cult myths, Klod, unsupported by anything but your own hot air, won't make them magically come true. You just come off looking rather insane, as well as completely retarded.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The mammoth bodies that have been found in eastern Russia and Alaska with meat on the bone should tell you fuckers something.

There's tons of evidence to suggest that we haven't been as warm as we're now for 10-15,000 years.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Good job chicken little.

That first thing we must do is ban or tax flatulence.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Jesus, republicans must be the most stupid anti-science people on earth.

 

[Dot Com]

SO the skeptics are saying that methane doesn't cause warming....

LOL

true. methane has more heat-trapping qualities than CO2

Methane Emissions | Climate Change | US EPA

CH4 is more efficient at trapping radiation than CO2.

 

[Old Rocks]

On a century scale, CH4 is about 25 times of an effective GHG as CO2. On a decade scale, over 100 times as effective of a GHG. Since the residence time of CH4 in the atmosphere is about 15 years, the constantly increaseing amount of CH4 in the atmosphere means that we are adding it faster than it is being oxidized. Now, with the permafrost melt, and outgassing of the Arctic Ocean clathrates, it is not only man that is adding CH4 to the atmosphere. And if there is significant outgassing, our contribution will no longer be significant.

How close are we to that happening? We don't know. We have not been down this road before. We do know that it has happened several times in the geologic past, and those were times of extinctions.

 

[Dot Com]

^ yep. I had heard 30X a few years ago.

 

[ScienceRocks]

None of this matters to the skeptics. Why do we even call such people skeptics if they're not willing to listen????

More like deniers and unbelievers.

 

[Dot Com]

None of this matters to the skeptics. Why do we even call such people skeptics if they're not willing to listen????

More like deniers and unbelievers.

sadly, this is true.

 

[Kosh]

And yet the AGW church still has no datasets with source code to prove that all the GHG's are driving climate.

 

[Old Rocks]

And yet the AGW church still has no datasets with source code to prove that all the GHG's are driving climate.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[Dot Com]

And yet the AGW church still has no datasets with source code to prove that all the GHG's are driving climate.

deflection noted Anything of substance to add?

 

[Abraham3]

Why do we even call such people skeptics if they're not willing to listen????

We don't Matthew. That'd be an insult to the world's true skeptics.