Duality: is God the devil?

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    There was a Christian group called the Cathar that believed that the creation of the physical world was the evil reaction to the creation of the Godly spiritual world. Today, the neo Cathars carry on this belief. The Catholic Church was unable to refute this so far for 800 years in a theological debate.

    Let's discuss this problem.

    In the book of Gsnesis, all physical creations are good and not evil, until one day God decides to take an extra day of vacation, and gives the day to the devil to steal Eve. After that, everything that is created suffers, and suffers to this day.

    Jesus came at some later time, to provide a fix for the problem, but was blocked, and may be ineffective without babtism, when baptism is a miniscule 2% chance to happen in life, as national statistics put church attendance to 2 % of population in most countries.

    The Cathar solution to this problem was to simply sit out the physical, and escape the evil, by not eating or drinking until physical death, like hospices do today.

    But here is the problem with this. You may escape evil that transforms you in the future of your physical life, but what do you do with the evil that has already transformed you in the present?

    Discuss.
     
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    No

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    Yes the God of the bible created Good as well as Evil and even snakes.
     
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    We can see in our own lives that goodness can have byproducts that are not so good. For example, being late (or not showing) for one engagement because of stopping to help someone in need. Ever pause to let a pedestrian cross in front of you only to upset the driver behind you because s/he is in a hurry? My parents were happy to have me come along, but my arrival still upsets my brother. ;)
     
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    there is no god--so negative is the answer
     
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    No.

    "Discuss"
     
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    Is man GOD thus making man the Devil...
     
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    There is no "harmonica" you are an illusion. You only exist because you believe you do.
     
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    No, He didnt create evil. He gave you free will to choose to be a Democrat
     
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    I dunno, considering that the democrats created you, looks evil enough for me. What if those people who God not create but the other one created, get rewards in hell instead of punishment, and punishment is reserved only to those who God created? After all, God has outsourced hell, as written in the Bible.
     

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