Zone1 Dramatic Rise in Antisemitism in America

[alang1216]

Well, that's because Muslims and their Jewish allies were busy massacring Christians and burning churches at the time. Try reading a history book every now and then, so you won't be so utterly ignorant.

Ottoman Empire - Expansion, Suleiman, Decline

Ottoman Empire - Expansion, Suleiman, Decline: During the century that followed the reign of Mehmed II, the Ottoman Empire achieved the peak of its power and wealth. New conquests extended its domain well into central Europe and throughout the Arab portion of the old Islamic caliphate, and a new...

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Again you show your ignorance of history:

An influx of Jews into Asia Minor and the Ottoman Empire, occurred during the reign of Mehmed the Conquerors's successor, Beyazid II (1481–1512), after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain and Portugal. The expulsion came about as a result of the Alhambra Decree in 1492, declared by the Spanish King and Queen Ferdinand II and Isabelle I as part of a larger trend of anti-Semitism resurging throughout Europe that the Ottomans would explo​

 

[DudleySmith]

Again you show your ignorance of history:

An influx of Jews into Asia Minor and the Ottoman Empire, occurred during the reign of Mehmed the Conquerors's successor, Beyazid II (1481–1512), after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain and Portugal. The expulsion came about as a result of the Alhambra Decree in 1492, declared by the Spanish King and Queen Ferdinand II and Isabelle I as part of a larger trend of anti-Semitism resurging throughout Europe that the Ottomans would explo​

Of course, being stupid, you wouldn't know that Jews had been in the Otoman Empire all along, and your poor reading skills make you think that the only Jews there came from Spain. You not only don't know that, but you don't even know why they left, or even why there were so Many Jews in Spain to begin with. Nor do you know that many remained in Spain, nor do you know many went to Catholic FRance, the Protestant Netherlands, and, bell ring please, the Papal states, where the Pope had to force local Jewish enclaves to take them in; yes, Jews had to be forced to take their own in.

See, they were allowed to stay if they converted, and many did. Same with Muslims. The reason for that is, they were allied with Muslims, and couldnt be trusted, and rightfully so; they had a history of aiding Muslim invaders in the conquest of Spain. They also were enthusiastic looters of the Christian peasants for their Muslim allies, as administrators of fur hundreds of years, same as with their presence in many European cities and kingdoms.

And, again, more Jews were allied with the Muslims than ever were with Christian countries, but you're just not bright enough to grasp obvious facts. It's all about Da Evul Xians, same as it is with Jewish bigots and racists like Lisa. But you stay stupid. It fits you.

 

[alang1216]

Of course, being stupid, you wouldn't know that Jews had been in the Otoman Empire all along, and your poor reading skills make you think that the only Jews there came from Spain. You not only don't know that, but you don't even know why they left, or even why there were so Many Jews in Spain to begin with. Nor do you know that many remained in Spain, nor do you know many went to Catholic FRance, the Protestant Netherlands, and, bell ring please, the Papal states, where the Pope had to force local Jewish enclaves to take them in; yes, Jews had to be forced to take their own in.

See, they were allowed to stay if they converted, and many did. Same with Muslims. The reason for that is, they were allied with Muslims, and couldnt be trusted, and rightfully so; they had a history of aiding Muslim invaders in the conquest of Spain. They also were enthusiastic looters of the Christian peasants for their Muslim allies, as administrators of fur hundreds of years, same as with their presence in many European cities and kingdoms.

And, again, more Jews were allied with the Muslims than ever were with Christian countries, but you're just not bright enough to grasp obvious facts. It's all about Da Evul Xians, same as it is with Jewish bigots and racists like Lisa. But you stay stupid. It fits you.

And you keep living in your fantasy that Christians are better than those nasty Jews and Muslims and Christians would never mistreat anyone and if they did those people had it coming.

 

[Billo_Really]

Lisa just wants to censor historical facts, same as left wingers do.

The left does not censor.

 

[DudleySmith]

And you keep living in your fantasy that Christians are better than those nasty Jews and Muslims and Christians would never mistreat anyone and if they did those people had it coming.

Ah, so now you're having to invent strawmen to attack instead of disputing any facts. Ok then.

 

[22lcidw]

So, do not threaten the police.

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Whenever I am stopped and frisked by the police I move slowly, keep my hands in sight, and speak politely.

It works pretty well. I have only been beaten up by police officers once.

There are people who do not forget being dehumanized. Those who are profiled enough feel when it stops. Especially if they are good citizens.

 

[Hector12]

There are people who do not forget being dehumanized. Those who are profiled enough feel when it stops. Especially if they are good citizens.

Are you trying to make excuses for blacks who mouth off to the police, and resist arrest? Why do you think they are dehumanized in the first place?

 

[alang1216]

Ah, so now you're having to invent strawmen to attack instead of disputing any facts. Ok then.

Facts? I didn't notice much in the way of facts?

Of course, being stupid, you wouldn't know that Jews had been in the Otoman Empire all along, and your poor reading skills make you think that the only Jews there came from Spain. You not only don't know that, but you don't even know why they left, or even why there were so Many Jews in Spain to begin with. Nor do you know that many remained in Spain, nor do you know many went to Catholic FRance, the Protestant Netherlands, and, bell ring please, the Papal states, where the Pope had to force local Jewish enclaves to take them in; yes, Jews had to be forced to take their own in.

I don't think you speculating on what I know or don't know qualifies as 'fact'.

See, they were allowed to stay if they converted, and many did. Same with Muslims. The reason for that is, they were allied with Muslims, and couldnt be trusted, and rightfully so; they had a history of aiding Muslim invaders in the conquest of Spain. They also were enthusiastic looters of the Christian peasants for their Muslim allies, as administrators of fur hundreds of years, same as with their presence in many European cities and kingdoms.

And, again, more Jews were allied with the Muslims than ever were with Christian countries, but you're just not bright enough to grasp obvious facts. It's all about Da Evul Xians, same as it is with Jewish bigots and racists like Lisa. But you stay stupid. It fits you.

So Jews get expelled from Christian countries and are forced to reside with Muslims and that is held against them? You sound like the child who murdered his parents and then asked for mercy because he was an orphan.

 

[22lcidw]

Are you trying to make excuses for blacks who mouth off to the police, and resist arrest? Why do you think they are dehumanized in the first place?

If they do it because they experienced it before many times they have that right. Anyone who has knows it. And when the time comes loyalties will be tested.

 

[Hector12]

If they do it because they experienced it before many times they have that right. Anyone who has knows it. And when the time comes loyalties will be tested.

If they mouth off to the police or resist arrest they should be prepared to accept the consequences.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Hatred of the Jews was called by a Gentile German leader of the Social Democratic Party, "the socialism of fools." Jew hate combines left wing politics of envy with right wing ethnic and religious bigotry.

Jew haters have watched Jews get better grades, better jobs, and better income. Now they fear being fired and replaced by more intelligent, better paid Jews who will perform their jobs faster, better, and with less effort.

Many white Gentiles who are angry about their economic circumstances are reluctant to direct their anger at rich white Gentiles. They find it easy to hate rich Jews. Hatred of rich Jews easily segues to hatred of all Jews, some of whom are poor.

Jew hate becomes widespread during hard economic times. It was widespread during the Great Depression, but President Roosevelt directed most of the anger toward rich white Gentiles.

Hereditary Tyranny Is the Only Source of Scapegoats

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yep. Kinda figured you'd go straight here. Omar was criticizing the state of Israel and the enabling that the US does for its little brother.

Unfortunately, most of the real anti-semitism....comes from...wait for it...the right wing and the alt-right.
Which, as I remember, are people that fall ideologically on your side of the fence. So, there's that.

Space lasers anyone?

Two Wings of the Vulture That Nests in the Ivy

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If they mouth off to the police or resist arrest they should be prepared to accept the consequences.

The Class That Turned Them Loose on Us Must Suffer the Consequences

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Nazi effort to exterminate the most superior race in existence does not mean that there are no superior races. Look at the data.

Quasimodos Treat the Bell Curve As a Gong

Since the Jews originated in Sumeria, where the wheel and other important things were invented, they may not be a race but are descended from a group of geniuses there who were tired of the ruling class treating them like cash cows.

The myth of Prometheus, along with knowledge of what is going on behind the scenes today, indicates that something like that happened somewhere, although it is not restricted to the Jews in historic times. But they are the only ones today who have been brought up learning how to deal with it.

 

[DudleySmith]

Facts? I didn't notice much in the way of facts?

I don't think you speculating on what I know or don't know qualifies as 'fact'.


So Jews get expelled from Christian countries and are forced to reside with Muslims and that is held against them? You sound like the child who murdered his parents and then asked for mercy because he was an orphan.

People who resented being kicked around for 700 years tend to be easily pissed off. Even at that Jews and Muslims were offered the opportunity to assimilate; many turned them down, out of their own bigotry and hate. You sound like some moron LARPing as some sort of 'anti-racist' when in act you are as racist as Lisa here. You sound like some kid who read too many comic books about Nazis.

 

[DudleySmith]

Quasimodos Treat the Bell Curve As a Gong

Since the Jews originated in Sumeria, where the wheel and other important things were invented, they may not be a race but are descended from a group of geniuses there who were tired of the ruling class treating them like cash cows.

The myth of Prometheus, along with knowledge of what is going on behind the scenes today, indicates that something like that happened somewhere, although it is not restricted to the Jews in historic times. But they are the only ones today who have been brought up learning how to deal with it.

Few Jews have any genetic connection to any Middle East tribe. lol at them being 'tired of being treated badly by the ruling class'; most of them in the Christian West got rich sucking ruling class ass for thousands of years. They set up dynasties and took a cut off the top when plundering the peasants for a thousand or so years. AShkenazis are Europeans, and most Sephardics are descended from converted Arabs. Few of them can trace any ancestry at all to anywhere near Israel.

The Invention of the Jewish People

A historical tour de force that demolishes the myths an…

www.goodreads.com

A historical tour de force that demolishes the myths and taboos that have surrounded Jewish and Israeli history, offers a new account of both that demands to be read and reckoned with. Was there really a forced exile in the first century, at the hands of the Romans? Should we regard the Jewish people, throughout two millennia, as both a distinct ethnic group and a putative nation—returned at last to its Biblical homeland?

Shlomo Sand argues that most Jews actually descend from converts, whose native lands were scattered far across the Middle East and Eastern Europe. The formation of a Jewish people and then a Jewish nation out of these disparate groups could only take place under the sway of a new historiography, developing in response to the rise of nationalism throughout Europe. Beneath the biblical back fill of the nineteenth-century historians, and the twentieth-century intellectuals who replaced rabbis as the architects of Jewish identity, uncovers a new narrative of Israel’s formation, and proposes a bold analysis of nationalism that accounts for the old myths.

After a long stay on Israel’s bestseller list, and winning the coveted Aujourd’hui Award in France, is finally available in English. The central importance of the conflict in the Middle East ensures that Sand’s arguments will reverberate well beyond the historians and politicians that he takes to task. Without an adequate understanding of Israel’s past, capable of superseding today’s opposing views, diplomatic solutions are likely to remain elusive. In this iconoclastic work of history, Shlomo Sand provides the intellectual foundations for a new vision of Israel’s future.

That new vision will include ignoring most of the Orthodox and Hasidim racists, who make the Nazis look normal. This guy was gushed over by Netanyahu and many other Israeli govt. pols when the vermin died.

5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations

Late Sephardi spiritual leader made a range of inflammatory comments -- involving snakes and sinners, gentiles and Blacks

www.timesofisrael.com

Lisa probably has a life size poster of him on her ceiling.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

More rubbish history. It was Jews who attacked Christians for centuries. The ghettos were requested by Jews themselves, as they didn't want to be 'tainted' by exposures to goy culture, and the Crusades were self-defense. Claiming Christianity is 'antisemitic' is ridiculous on its face, but you aren't bright enough to figure out why. Christians met in synagogues, until expelled and Jews began murdering them when the opportunity came along. Christianity is the largest Jewish sect.

The Ruling Class's Religion Was Ordered to Find an Antichrist Scapegoat

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

More rubbish. You seem to think Christians ruled the entire world; they didn't, they didn't even control Europe, mostly ruled by fuedal rulers. Jews were 'persecuted' because in the West they were suspected of aiding Muslim invaders and pirates, rightly so in many cases, and they worked for the kings, as tax farmers and bureaucrats, and also self-segregated, same as the Lombards, Hanseatic traders, also not well liked by the local populace as exploitive foreigners extorting the locals in partnerships with the kings and princes.

Bluebloods Need Whites to Be Yellow


Why should Jews have become slaves to hereditary rule just because unprivileged Gentiles were?

 

[Hector12]

The great reformer, Martin Luther, advised his fellow Christians to burn the synagogues of the Jews.

Do you agree with Martin Luther? I don't.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Few Jews have any genetic connection to any Middle East tribe. lol at them being 'tired of being treated badly by the ruling class'; most of them in the Christian West got rich sucking ruling class ass for thousands of years. They set up dynasties and took a cut off the top when plundering the peasants for a thousand or so years. AShkenazis are Europeans, and most Sephardics are descended from converted Arabs. Few of them can trace any ancestry at all to anywhere near Israel.

The Invention of the Jewish People

A historical tour de force that demolishes the myths an…

www.goodreads.com

A historical tour de force that demolishes the myths and taboos that have surrounded Jewish and Israeli history, offers a new account of both that demands to be read and reckoned with. Was there really a forced exile in the first century, at the hands of the Romans? Should we regard the Jewish people, throughout two millennia, as both a distinct ethnic group and a putative nation—returned at last to its Biblical homeland?

Shlomo Sand argues that most Jews actually descend from converts, whose native lands were scattered far across the Middle East and Eastern Europe. The formation of a Jewish people and then a Jewish nation out of these disparate groups could only take place under the sway of a new historiography, developing in response to the rise of nationalism throughout Europe. Beneath the biblical back fill of the nineteenth-century historians, and the twentieth-century intellectuals who replaced rabbis as the architects of Jewish identity, uncovers a new narrative of Israel’s formation, and proposes a bold analysis of nationalism that accounts for the old myths.

After a long stay on Israel’s bestseller list, and winning the coveted Aujourd’hui Award in France, is finally available in English. The central importance of the conflict in the Middle East ensures that Sand’s arguments will reverberate well beyond the historians and politicians that he takes to task. Without an adequate understanding of Israel’s past, capable of superseding today’s opposing views, diplomatic solutions are likely to remain elusive. In this iconoclastic work of history, Shlomo Sand provides the intellectual foundations for a new vision of Israel’s future.

That new vision will include ignoring most of the Orthodox and Hasidim racists, who make the Nazis look normal. This guy was gushed over by Netanyahu and many other Israeli govt. pols when the vermin died.

5 of Ovadia Yosef’s most controversial quotations

Late Sephardi spiritual leader made a range of inflammatory comments -- involving snakes and sinners, gentiles and Blacks

www.timesofisrael.com

Lisa probably has a life size poster of him on her ceiling.

Cowardice Is the Crime That Enables All Others

We should imitate the Jews rather than be jealous of them. The fault was with the peasants for not overthrowing the ruling class. Few in number, the Jews had no choice but to work with the ruling class. The peasants deserved their plight, just like White Americans do for allowing heirs to have so much power over them. Only gutless bootlickers put up with not being given the same allowance and paid-up tuition in college that the hypocritical rich give their sons.

Scratch an anti-semite and you'll find a Preppyloving traitor.