Zone1 Dramatic Rise in Antisemitism in America

[alang1216]

Or Jews aren’t violent and defiant when dealing with cops. It’s pretty obvious that, with extremely rare exceptions, cops are not violent toward those who are not threatening to them.

To put it more accurately, cops are not violent toward those who, they perceive, are not threatening to them.

What do you mean killing or jailing Black men? Any unarmed black man killed by a cop is a 1 in 10 million occurrence, and even then it’s usually when dealing with a defiant and/or stoned man threatening the cops.

Did you just pull that frequency out of your butt or are there real numbers to back it up. You can start counting here.

 

[alang1216]

You don't seem to know Jesus and Mathew were well educated Jews,

What makes you think Jesus was well educated? Do we a single word that he wrote? Whoever wrote Matthew knew Greek but likely didn't know Hebrew.

and knew exactly what they were talking about re the Babylonian cultists. You really don't know squat; that's because you prefer the fantasy.

"Babylonian cultists"? I don't think either of us know what you're talking about or are you referring to the Book of Revelation? Something neither man had any part in writing.

 

[Hector12]

Matthew 27:25

Matthew 27: 22-25 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

Jeremiah 31: 29-30 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

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The Jews who called for the crucifixion of Jesus did not speak for their descendants. They did not speak for all the Jews in Jerusalem at the time. They certainly did not speak for all the Jews in the Roman Empire.

They were probably a rent a mob paid for by the Saducees. Jesus presented the Jews with a way to worship God that did not depend on the expensive sacrifices the Saducees depended on for their lavish incomes.

 

[Hector12]

To put it more accurately, cops are not violent toward those who, they perceive, are not threatening to them.

So, do not threaten the police.

Whenever I am stopped and frisked by the police I move slowly, keep my hands in sight, and speak politely.

It works pretty well. I have only been beaten up by police officers once.

 

[Lisa558]

To put it more accurately, cops are not violent toward those who, they perceive, are not threatening to them.

Yes, regardless of color. We only hear about it when it concerns a black because black lives apparently matter more

Did you just pull that frequency out of your butt or are there real numbers to back it up. You can start counting here.

Anyone who knows anything about police work would come up with the same number: there are 50 million unique police encounters with cops, per year, millions of them with drunk, belligerent, and defiant people. And you can count on the fingers of ONE hand the number of unarmed blacks killed who were not being threatening and defiant.

The ENTIRE BLM rioting across the country, for months on end, was all based on a lie.

 

[Lisa558]

So, do not threaten the police.

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Whenever I am stopped and frisked by the police I move slowly, keep my hands in sight, and speak politely.

It works pretty well. I have only been beaten up by police officers once.

Why did they beat you up?

 

[Hector12]

Why did they beat you up?

It is a long story, and a strange one. I left a bar at about 10:00 pm on a week night in a dangerous neighborhood. I heard a man yelling obscene insults at two Hispanic women who had just left a Mexican restaurant.

My parents taught me not to be that way. Because I though he should not be that way either, I walked over to him and asked, "Why are you yelling at them?"

"They're Mexican!" he answered.

"What's wrong with that?" I asked.

"This is our country," he demanded. "They don't belong here."

"Where are you from?" I asked.

"I'm Portuguese," he replied. Recognizing the difficulty of his position, he put his hand on my shoulder, and said, "You're all right, kid."

By now I realized that he was a harmless old man who was drunk. Also, the two Hispanic women had gotten safely into their car, and left. I left him alone, and began to walk down a street. Two men threw me into an ally and began to beat me up. I thought I was being mugged, until I saw their police uniforms. "That's right," one of them said. "We're cops."

"Why are you doing this?" I asked.

"You were making abusive remarks to women and harassing winos."

"I was not!" I protested.

He kicked my legs out from under me and kicked me in the side, breaking one of my ribs. "Are you calling me a liar?" he demanded.

"No," I replied. "I am not resisting, officers."

"Show me your ID" he demanded.

I gave him my wallet. He looked at my ID. They left.

So you see, I was beaten up by mistake. The reason they did it was because they thought I was yelling insults at the Hispanic women. Then they thought I was trying to pick a fight with a harmless old man.

I may have resembled someone they had had problems with in the neighborhood previously.

 

[Lisa558]

It is a long story, and a strange one. I left a bar at about 10:00 pm on a week night in a dangerous neighborhood. I heard a man yelling obscene insults at two Hispanic women who had just left a Mexican restaurant.

My parents taught me not to be that way. Because I though he should not be that way either, I walked over to him and asked, "Why are you yelling at them?"

"They're Mexican!" he answered.

"What's wrong with that?" I asked.

"This is our country," he demanded. "They don't belong here."

"Where are you from?" I asked.

"I'm Portuguese," he replied. Recognizing the difficulty of his position, he put his hand on my shoulder, and said, "You're all right, kid."

By now I realized that he was a harmless old man who was drunk. Also, the two Hispanic women had gotten safely into their car, and left. I left him alone, and began to walk down a street. Two men threw me into an ally and began to beat me up. I thought I was being mugged, until I saw their police uniforms. "That's right," one of them said. "We're cops."

"Why are you doing this?" I asked.

"You were making abusive remarks to women and harassing winos."

"I was not!" I protested.

He kicked my legs out from under me and kicked me in the side, breaking one of my ribs. "Are you calling me a liar?" he demanded.

"No," I replied. "I am not resisting, officers."

"Show me your ID" he demanded.

I gave him my wallet. He looked at my ID. They left.

So you see, I was beaten up by mistake. The reason they did it was because they thought I was yelling insults at the Hispanic women. Then they thought I was trying to pick a fight with a harmless old man.

I may have resembled someone they had had problems with in the neighborhood previously.

Wow. That’s quite a story. Lesson: Stay out of dangerous neighborhoods at 10 pm.

 

[Billo_Really]

I just got off the history forum, where a couple of vicious antisemites are getting their rocks off bullying a Jewish woman (me), and I wondered whether the apparent increase in Jew-hate is just in forums, or it’s for real.

Sadly, it’s for real. The ADL reports a dramatic rise in antisemitism. Most alarming to me is the 40% jump in college antisemitism and almost 50% jump in grade school antisemitism. This is tied, of course, to the anti-Israel fervor in liberal schools, and the conflation of Jews and Israelis.

Let Jews and all decent-minded people fight back against the rising antisemitism in this country.

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There is no reason to hate someone over how they worship God.

 

[Hector12]

Wow. That’s quite a story. Lesson: Stay out of dangerous neighborhoods at 10 pm.

I have also been mugged, robbed gunpoint, and nearly murdered. Blacks did it every time. A Negro also threw a cherry bomb at me for no reason other than the fact that I am white. That gave me tinnitus, or ringing in the ears. There is no cure for tinnitus. It often gets worse with age.

Despite my misadventure with those two police officers, I think of the police as my friends, and the criminals as my enemies. I want the police to have more funding and more discretionary power. I want more, longer, and nastier prison sentences. I think the problem is not that there are too many criminals in prison; it is that too many criminals are out of prison.

 

[alang1216]

Matthew 27: 22-25 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

Jeremiah 31: 29-30 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

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The Jews who called for the crucifixion of Jesus did not speak for their descendants. They did not speak for all the Jews in Jerusalem at the time. They certainly did not speak for all the Jews in the Roman Empire.

Yet those ideas are not found in scripture.

They were probably a rent a mob paid for by the Saducees. Jesus presented the Jews with a way to worship God that did not depend on the expensive sacrifices the Saducees depended on for their lavish incomes.

You're welcome to write your own scripture, I can only read what is there. Or not there. Likewise the words and deeds of Christians are what I see. The great reformer, Martin Luther, advised his fellow Christians to burn the synagogues of the Jews.

 

[alang1216]

So, do not threaten the police.

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Whenever I am stopped and frisked by the police I move slowly, keep my hands in sight, and speak politely.

It works pretty well. I have only been beaten up by police officers once.

This makes sense only in the context of a fair system where justice is assured. I'm thinking some in this country don't start out with that mindset.

 

[alang1216]

Yes, regardless of color. We only hear about it when it concerns a black because black lives apparently matter more

Maybe a young black man in a hoodie is more likely to be perceived as a threat than an old white man in a suit? Is that the fault of the black man?

Anyone who knows anything about police work would come up with the same number: there are 50 million unique police encounters with cops, per year, millions of them with drunk, belligerent, and defiant people. And you can count on the fingers of ONE hand the number of unarmed blacks killed who were not being threatening and defiant.

The ENTIRE BLM rioting across the country, for months on end, was all based on a lie.

More numbers: Black males comprise 6.1 percent of the total U.S. population but 24.9 percent of all persons killed by law enforcement.

 

[Lisa558]

There is no reason to hate someone over how they worship God.

Agreed!

 

[Lisa558]

I have also been mugged, robbed gunpoint, and nearly murdered. Blacks did it every time. A Negro also threw a cherry bomb at me for no reason other than the fact that I am white. That gave me tinnitus, or ringing in the ears. There is no cure for tinnitus. It often gets worse with age.

Despite my misadventure with those two police officers, I think of the police as my friends, and the criminals as my enemies. I want the police to have more funding and more discretionary power. I want more, longer, and nastier prison sentences. I think the problem is not that there are too many criminals in prison; it is that too many criminals are out of prison.

The only time I was assaulted was by blacks, in a very liberal city where crime is rampant. I just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fortunately, I was rescued at the very start, before they did too much damage, and I consider those 30 seconds or so the scariest time of my life - and the luckiest.

As far as police, I’ve found them to be my friends, from the time I was lost as a 7-year-old to the time a cop escorted me out of a bad DC neighborhood just a couple of years ago. They do a thankless job - less than thankless - while risking their lives.

Finally, I agree with you that we need to put more criminals in prison. This soft on crime approach, worse in Democrat-run cities, has allowed our country to descend into chaos.

 

[Lisa558]

Maybe a young black man in a hoodie is more likely to be perceived as a threat than an old white man in a suit? Is that the fault of the black man?

The cops know that statistically, blacks are more violent and defiant toward police. Even so, cops exercise amazing restraint, with rare exception.

More numbers: Black males comprise 6.1 percent of the total U.S. population but 24.9 percent of all persons killed by law enforcement.

Black males comprise 6.1% of the population but 50% of all violent crime. Thus, they are getting killed at 4x their population because they commit violent crime at 9x their population. Given that, the police are actually exercising more restraint when dealing with blacks.

 

[Hector12]

Finally, I agree with you that we need to put more criminals in prison. This soft on crime approach, worse in Democrat-run cities, has allowed our country to descend into chaos.

The Democrat Party that I really like is the one that existed from the inauguration of Franklin Roosevelt in 1933, and the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963 - three decades in all.

I supported the civil rights movement as a child, a teenager, and a young adult. Now I think blacks have substantiated the arguments of whites who opposed the civil rights movement.

I think passing the civil rights legislation was a well intended mistake made by whites with little experience with blacks, and forced on whites with much experience with blacks.

I think it would be unwise to try to repeal the civil rights legislation. I want it to be interpreted narrowly in ways that prohibit affirmative action, end this foolish talk about reparations, and allow a much harsher criminal justice system.

I would also like to end all welfare support for single mothers and their illegitimate children. When Aid for Families with Dependent children was begun during the New Deal aid was specifically restricted to widows, deserted wives, and their legitimate children.

Roosevelt had the sense to keep civil rights off of the New Deal agenda.

 

[DudleySmith]

What makes you think Jesus was well educated? Do we a single word that he wrote? Whoever wrote Matthew knew Greek but likely didn't know Hebrew.


"Babylonian cultists"? I don't think either of us know what you're talking about or are you referring to the Book of Revelation? Something neither man had any part in writing.

Yes, you don't squat about what you're talking about. We already know that.

 

[DudleySmith]

There is no reason to hate someone over how they worship God.

Lisa just wants to censor historical facts, same as left wingers do.

 

[DudleySmith]

Martin Luther, advised his fellow Christians to burn the synagogues of the Jews.

Well, that's because Muslims and their Jewish allies were busy massacring Christians and burning churches at the time. Try reading a history book every now and then, so you won't be so utterly ignorant.

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