Dover trial on evolution in schools

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    Evolution still struggles for survival in school curricula
    By Paul Nussbaum
    Knight Ridder News Service

    DOVER, Pa. - Outside the Dover fire hall last week, taking a break from a video lecture on ''Why Evolution is Stupid,'' Judy Grim blamed Darwin's theory for America's moral woes.

    "If I'm taught there is a God I'm responsible to, I know I have to treat people right,'' said Grim, 63. ''But if there's no creator to answer to, it changes your whole lifestyle. Then it's just survival of the fittest. That's where our society is headed. That's why we have so many of the problems we do.''

    The nation's latest battle over evolution, spawned in this rural York County town, exposes a deep and persistent cultural division that is uniquely American.

    No difference: Despite a century of effort by science teachers, half of Americans reject evolution because they see it as a challenge to their religious beliefs. The fight over evolution, combining the combustible issues of religion, schools, courts and politics, has become the nation's ultimate values contest.

    Coupled with questions on such things as school prayer, public display of the Ten Commandments, and homosexual marriage, the teaching of evolution is a powerful political issue for conservatives, going to the core of their dispute with ''activist judges.'' With an increasingly conservative Supreme Court, they have renewed hope that long-standing decisions on separation of church and state will be reversed.

    Science has won most of the court battles. But it is making little headway in the wider culture, and now faces a new offensive from advocates of intelligent design.

    ''Regardless of what happens in Dover, this will continue to be a problem until, as a society, we come to grips with it,'' said Connie Bertka, director of the Program of Dialogue on Science, Ethics and Religion at the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

    With more than 17,000 school boards and 50 state legislatures as potential battlegrounds, those who support teaching evolution say they are too busy battling immediate challenges to take on the broader schism in the country.

    ''It's something we agonize about . . . How are we really going to solve the problem, rather than just keep handing out fire extinguishers?'' said Eugenie C. Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education.

    The battle in Dover: The Dover trial, which began Monday in federal court in Harrisburg, Pa., is the first to spotlight intelligent design. Intelligent design holds that natural selection cannot explain all the complex developments observed in nature and that an unspecified intelligent designer must be involved. Eleven parents sued the Dover school board in December after the board required that a statement introducing intelligent design as an alternative to evolution be read to biology classes.

    The parents, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, contend that the statement promotes a particular religious viewpoint and violates constitutional freedom-of-religion protections. The school board, defended by the Thomas More Law Center, a Christian legal center, says intelligent design is not religious and the school board merely wanted to inform students of alternatives to evolution.

    Nationwide, surveys show Americans' attitudes virtually unchanged on the issue of evolution in the last 23 years. In 1982, 44 percent of those surveyed said they believed God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years, according to a Gallup poll. In 2004, the number was 45 percent. Only 9 percent in 1982 said they believed in evolution unaided by God, and 13 percent held that belief in 2004...


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    Those who oppose religion and God are those with the "Guilty" conscience...if ya eliminate God from our society...well then they believe their guilt will go away too! :2guns:
     
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    If this kind of nonsense persists we should just do away with public education entirely and let parents send their kids to any school they want which teaches anything along the spectrum from science to superstition.
     
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    LOL..."and the beat goes on" Sonny and Cher!
     
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    Is this a non-sequitor, are you drunk, or is your humor so subtle that it's over my head. Because I haven't the vaguest what you're talking about.
     
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    Noooo.not drunk...try "Surfers Stomp" thats what I'm doing to ya now!...LOL
     
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    Try, "Bird is the word".
     
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    Kinda prefer the "Magic Carpet Ride" though...LOL 'the beaver"...gotcha!
     
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    WTF mates?
     
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    nuc is a old time TV personality...who I am familiar with in the real world sense...just funny stuff here!
     

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