Does The Constitution Include Health Care For All?

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    "Access to affordable health care will help insure domestic tranquility, it will provide a common defense against illness and the exorbitant cost of health care, and it will indeed promote the general welfare. Nothing is more crucial to the general welfare of American citizens than their health and that requires access to affordable health care."

    "Health care legislation will accomplish three essential objectives:

    It will ensure that Americans have health insurance even when they lose their jobs or are between jobs.

    It will ensure that Americans who suffer catastrophic illnesses will not have to lose their homes or go bankrupt in order to pay for treatment and hospitalization.

    It will cover children who are out of college, but have not yet found jobs.

    And—If the legislation includes a public option, it will lower costs by offering the choice of less-costly insurance."

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    No it doesn't specifically call for universal health care.
     
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    But if UHC is the way to a constitutional goal, and is legal and desired by the majority of we the people, why not?
     
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    The constitution was NOT written as an all encompassing set of directions for what the government can or cannot do.

    It does not include all sorts of things that the government does already that few of us have any problems with.

    Anyone here complaining about the Coast Guard?

    No?

    Well that's run (or at least was run) by the Dept of Treasury.

    Try finding the specific clause that allowed the government to create it.

    It isn't there, because that was not the way the flundering father's thought.

    The created a system which did not attempt to tie the hands of future governments.

    that is exactly why we've suvived as long as we have, too.

    Because they knew that they could not possible imagine every contingency that the future would necessitate, ergo they wrote a contstution granting the goverment the ability to deal with unforeseen necessitites,
     
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    The means to the end of such "constitutional goals" were spelled out in Article 1, Section 8.

    What is claimed to be wanted by the majority of the people (a highly duboius calim in this particular instance) is irrelevant, insofar as the workings of a representative republic go.
     
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    No it does not.
     
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    According to the concept of enumerated powers, yes it is.

    It does not include all sorts of things that the government does already that few of us have any problems with.

    Common defense.

    Also, the enumeated power to raise money for that common defense.
     
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    The constitution, as a document, is intended to limit the power and scope of the government. It does not spell out what they are responsible to do, only what they are not allowed to do.

    IF they put a ballot question on a national ballot for universal healthcare and more than 50% of americans vote yes than i would have to say too bad for people with my opinion.

    but they wont put it to a vote that way as it will not get more than 50% IMO
     
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    'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.'

    Using your argument. UHC = promote the general Welfare
     
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    PROMOTE as in advocate for...notice PROVIDE FOR DEFENCE and PROMOTE welfare.

    This thread is a retread.
     

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