Does a fetus have a soul?

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    Gen 2: 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
    and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
    and man became a living soul.​
     
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    Well, from this reading of that particular Scripture, it appears that the living soul is given when the first breathe is taken?
     
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    Do you?
     
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    A "soul" is simply a person's incorporeal essence - his or her feelings, thoughts, perceptions, etc. Fetuses don't exactly possess these things, because as far as we can tell, they're incapable of abstract thought. What's important is that fetuses could potentially become human beings capable of abstract thought.
     
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    Talk about trying to split a frog hair five ways.

    Wouldn't you conclude that Adam was a special case, considering he was formed and not born?

    Perhaps my mother forgot to mention that God showed up in the delivery room do breathe a soul into me...but I can't imagine how something like that could have slipped her mind. :D

    As an aside, why do the liberals take such delight in attempting to rename things, or is everyone who is pro-abortion (renamed pro-chioce) a doctor, nurse or medical student?

    Next time you see a pregnant woman, walk up to her and ask "So, when is your fetus due?". :lol:
     
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    It certainly appears that way.

    "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart for my holy purpose. I appointed you to be a prophet to the nations."
    Jeremiah 1:5

    "For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother’s womb."
    Luke 1:15

    "For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from You, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; and in Your book were all written the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them."
    Psalm 139:13-16

    BTW, this was an interesting read:

    FOXNews.com - California Man 'Adopts' Wife's Two Aborted Children - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
     
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    is a soul the same as the Spirit or Holy Spirit? No, right?

    What is a soul?

    It appears it exists before it was even conceived, at least for God's planned prophets per your scripture quotes? so did it or does ones soul live in another dimension or in heaven, before it occupies a human body?

    I don't really know?
     
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    oh cmon---take a stab at it. We won't hold it against you if you're proven wrong again.
     
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    i dunno where i was proven wrong?

    Why didnt Adam have a "living soul" when he was being formed? Did he have a soul that was "not living" before he was formed and had his first breath and was somewhere else in "waiting"?

    Why didn't God KNOW Adam before he was formed as He knew Jeremiah and others before they were born as quoted in the Scripture xsisted quoted? Or DID He know him in another place before he put him here on earth?

    I honestly do not know the answers to these questions Dillo and I honestly do not know how others know for certain, either.

    Care
     
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    The soul is, of course, not the same as the Holy Spirit. There is certainly evidence in scripture that suggests the soul exists even before conception for everyone, not just prophets. That's why abortion is such a powerful issue for many religious people.
     

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