Doctors choosing government work over private practice

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This seems to conflict with the idea that doctors would quit rather than work for the governement. Not to draw any conclusions but definitely thought provoking.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- More doctors are dropping their private practices, choosing to go to work behind bars treating murderers, rapists and other hardened criminals.

Better pay, better hours, retirement benefits and free malpractice insurance are just a few of the reasons why physicians are picking prisoners over civilian patients.

Dr. Kurt Johnson, now a full-time physician to inmates after closing his solo practice this year, says he's earning more, working less and spending more time with his family.

In 2009, private contractor Prison Health Services (PHS) saw a 77% increase over 2008 in the number of respondents applying for job opportunities.

At the University of Massachusetts Medical School, this year 22 of 150 new students chose the correctional health care clerkship as their first choice, more than double the typical response.

"Students are looking for an employer who offers flexible work hours and a steady paycheck. Correctional health care offers both," said Dr. Michelle Staples-Horne, medical director for the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice, adding that doctors who have stayed with a government agency long enough also benefit from pension plans.

Typically a salaried job with steady work hours, correctional physicians can earn starting salaries of around $140,000, according to Staples-Horne, roughly the same as the average school loan for graduating med students.

A dangerous job?
Dr. Kurt Johnson dumped his practice and became a jailhouse doctor in November. Johnson operated a solo practice in Laramie, Wyo., for six years. Two years ago he started working part time for Brentwood, Tenn.-based PHS, a division of America Service Group (ASGR), which provides doctors, nurses and other health care professionals to detention centers around the country.

"I never thought of correctional health care as a career. It wasn't even on my radar in [medical school] training," said Johnson, now a regional medical director for PHS.

At his private practice he had to cram in dozens of patients daily, sometimes for only five minutes, just to earn enough to cover his overhead expenses.

He was constantly filing insurance paperwork, and malpractice insurance was eating into his income.

Doctors are quitting private practice to work in prisons - Dec. 23, 2009
 
This seems to conflict with the idea that doctors would quit rather than work for the governement. Not to draw any conclusions but definitely thought provoking.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- More doctors are dropping their private practices, choosing to go to work behind bars treating murderers, rapists and other hardened criminals.

Better pay, better hours, retirement benefits and free malpractice insurance are just a few of the reasons why physicians are picking prisoners over civilian patients.

Dr. Kurt Johnson, now a full-time physician to inmates after closing his solo practice this year, says he's earning more, working less and spending more time with his family.

In 2009, private contractor Prison Health Services (PHS) saw a 77% increase over 2008 in the number of respondents applying for job opportunities.

At the University of Massachusetts Medical School, this year 22 of 150 new students chose the correctional health care clerkship as their first choice, more than double the typical response.

"Students are looking for an employer who offers flexible work hours and a steady paycheck. Correctional health care offers both," said Dr. Michelle Staples-Horne, medical director for the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice, adding that doctors who have stayed with a government agency long enough also benefit from pension plans.

Typically a salaried job with steady work hours, correctional physicians can earn starting salaries of around $140,000, according to Staples-Horne, roughly the same as the average school loan for graduating med students.

A dangerous job?
Dr. Kurt Johnson dumped his practice and became a jailhouse doctor in November. Johnson operated a solo practice in Laramie, Wyo., for six years. Two years ago he started working part time for Brentwood, Tenn.-based PHS, a division of America Service Group (ASGR), which provides doctors, nurses and other health care professionals to detention centers around the country.

"I never thought of correctional health care as a career. It wasn't even on my radar in [medical school] training," said Johnson, now a regional medical director for PHS.

At his private practice he had to cram in dozens of patients daily, sometimes for only five minutes, just to earn enough to cover his overhead expenses.

He was constantly filing insurance paperwork, and malpractice insurance was eating into his income.

Doctors are quitting private practice to work in prisons - Dec. 23, 2009

probably more cost efficient for us than making medicare/medicaid payments. to the same practitioners...and probably better for them because they don't have to wait to get paid and go through all of the paperwork.

if they get to the point where med school is paid for in exchange for service (both drs and nurses could use this) maybe not a bad thing.
 
I don't know about wingnutters like you, but I've lived very well off of the benefits of capitalism. But I'm smart enough to know when something needs to be modified to be cost efficient and appropriately delivered to the people who need it.
 
Leave to the socialist wingnuts to let the fact that doctors treating PRISONERS, who are wards of the state and don't earn a living, go flying right over their peanut heads.

So we can treat prisoners, but not the people who work for a living? Of course, I would expect Dooodeee.... to protect the priveleges of his peer group.

In our nation, a person that has worked all his life, and been laid off, thereby losing his health care, has a 40% greater chance of dying in the emergency room than someone that still has there health insurance.

Now, look at what is happening in industry. More and more companies are either reducing the health care benefits for new hires, or not offering them at all.

Time for the American Citizen to take matters into their own hands and gaurntee health care for all.
 
At least when Crusader Frank starts a goofy thread with an entirely laughable premise, it's generally accepted that he's trying to be funny.

You crackpots actually expect people to take the transparently absurd seriously.
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Golly...Doctors leaving private practice to have Big Daddy Big Gummint pick up the tab for their outrageously expensive malpractice insurance premiums and get cushy bennie packages paid for by everyone else?

whodathunkit? :rolleyes:

Soooooooo, is this the same case with ALL people that choose to do government work? Do they ALL do such for the bennies and are they all on government "welfare", paid for by us tax payers, including our Military and veterans etc?:eusa_whistle:

And........... Merry Christmas Dude! :)
 
Golly...Doctors leaving private practice to have Big Daddy Big Gummint pick up the tab for their outrageously expensive malpractice insurance premiums and get cushy bennie packages paid for by everyone else?

whodathunkit? :rolleyes:

Soooooooo, is this the same case with ALL people that choose to do government work? Do they ALL do such for the bennies and are they all on government "welfare", paid for by us tax payers, including our Military and veterans etc?:eusa_whistle:

And........... Merry Christmas Dude! :)

The HUGE difference is that Military members are ready to give evrything they have (including their very lives) to this Republic. So I won't begrudge them any 'bennies' they have coming, and they desreve more than what they get for their sacrifice.
 
Better pay, better hours, retirement benefits and free malpractice insurance are just a few of the reasons why physicians are picking prisoners over civilian patients.

Dr. Kurt Johnson, now a full-time physician to inmates after closing his solo practice this year, says he's earning more, working less and spending more time with his family.
That is truly insane!! Because government regulation has made it so expensive to operate, it is more lucrative to work for Uncle Sam himself.
 
Golly...Doctors leaving private practice to have Big Daddy Big Gummint pick up the tab for their outrageously expensive malpractice insurance premiums and get cushy bennie packages paid for by everyone else?

whodathunkit? :rolleyes:

Soooooooo, is this the same case with ALL people that choose to do government work? Do they ALL do such for the bennies and are they all on government "welfare", paid for by us tax payers, including our Military and veterans etc?:eusa_whistle:

And........... Merry Christmas Dude! :)

The HUGE difference is that Military members are ready to give evrything they have (including their very lives) to this Republic. So I won't begrudge them any 'bennies' they have coming, and they desreve more than what they get for their sacrifice.

Yeah, military folk are much better than regular folk...
 
Better pay, better hours, retirement benefits and free malpractice insurance are just a few of the reasons why physicians are picking prisoners over civilian patients.

Dr. Kurt Johnson, now a full-time physician to inmates after closing his solo practice this year, says he's earning more, working less and spending more time with his family.
That is truly insane!! Because government regulation has made it so expensive to operate, it is more lucrative to work for Uncle Sam himself.

i don't see it?

i don't see excessive Gvt regulation making it more expensive for them to stay in the private sector..... as example, their malpractice insurance cost IS the FREE market at work...citizens suing for a doctor's malpractice is the free market!

AND HAVING our government reform mal practice insurance... regulating it by capping how much the free market chooses to award for the injuries the doctors caused WOULD NOT BE the ''free market''.

What government regulation were you talking about that would force doctors out of the private sector and in to the government's arms?

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