Do You Consider the Destruction of Israel a "Personal Tragedy?"

[Jos]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHbIL8YIM0w&feature=share]~McCain confronted about father's coverup of Israels attack on USS Liberty~ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

~McCain confronted about father's coverup of Israels attack on USS Liberty~ - YouTube

Proving yet again that some songbirds don't plop far from their 1% nest.
When Justice arrives for the crew of the Liberty, watch McCain turn bright yellow (again)

 

[rhodescholar]

When Justice arrives for the crew of the Liberty, watch McCain turn bright yellow (again)

It must suck to go through life as a mentally ill fucking idiot. The sooner that vermin like you and the turd "jos" die, the better this world will be.

 

[rhodescholar]

None of those reports dealt with culpability

It is truly sad to watch the mentally ill lowlifes of this world be given a forum on which to spew their BS. In a normal situation, you just would walk past this filth as it huddled in the corner of the gutter, with a sign asking for money placed in front of it.

But the times will change, the internet will modernize, and the garbage filth like this douchebag will be cleansed off like dogshit from the sidewalk.

 

[JStone]

SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.

The killing of Aya Baradiya – by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor – sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.

On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said. She told them she had done nothing wrong, then her attackers dumped her into the well The water would have reached to her neck, Awad said, adding: "We can't be sure ... if she died immediately or it took her a long time to die."

So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.

The police chief said suspects in honor killings often come forward immediately because they don't face serious punishment and a confession is part of the "cleansing" of family honor. However, Aya Baradiya's uncle remained silent, even saying at one point that his niece had called him and told him she just decided to go away.

Leniency for honor killings dates back to a 1960 Jordanian legal codex, parts of which are still in effect in the West Bank; the area was under Jordanian rule until it was captured by Israel in 1967. Awad, the Hebron police chief, said that under the old system, someone who killed for family honor would get a maximum of six months in prison.

In 2010, there were nine family honor killings in the West Bank, Awad said. In most cases, "family honor" was just a pretext, he added: Men would kill to clear the path for remarriage, get their wives' gold or because of problems in the family. The tougher new laws will likely reduce the number of such killings, he said.

In Hamas-ruled Gaza, at least 10 women were killed by male relatives over the past three years, according to a local activist, Majda Ibrahim. She said punishment is generally light, though in one case, a man was sentenced to death for killing his cousin after she rejected his marriage proposal. The man is on death row.
Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws

Winston Churchill...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books

 

[georgephillip]

None of those reports dealt with culpability

It is truly sad to watch the mentally ill lowlifes of this world be given a forum on which to spew their BS. In a normal situation, you just would walk past this filth as it huddled in the corner of the gutter, with a sign asking for money placed in front of it.

But the times will change, the internet will modernize, and the garbage filth like this douchebag will be cleansed off like dogshit from the sidewalk.

Or you could lick the dog shit off the sidewalk like a good bitch.

 

[JStone]

None of those reports dealt with culpability

It is truly sad to watch the mentally ill lowlifes of this world be given a forum on which to spew their BS. In a normal situation, you just would walk past this filth as it huddled in the corner of the gutter, with a sign asking for money placed in front of it.

But the times will change, the internet will modernize, and the garbage filth like this douchebag will be cleansed off like dogshit from the sidewalk.

Or you could lick the dog shit off the sidewalk like a good bitch.

Not nice to insult Jesus Christ, King of Israel. Enjoy hell, motherfucker

John 12:13 They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

 

[ima]

If you're not Jewish, the destruction of Israel wouldn't affect you "personally". And even for Jews outside of Israel, it's not a "personal" tragedy because they're not destroying Judaism, just some random landmass.

 

[rhodescholar]

If you're not Jewish, the destruction of Israel wouldn't affect you "personally". And even for Jews outside of Israel, it's not a "personal" tragedy because they're not destroying Judaism, just some random landmass.

Ask the irish if they would appreciate it if England carpet-bombed ireland.

 

[rhodescholar]

Or you could lick

How's the view from the mental hospital lounge? Do they let you go outside everyday like they used to?

 

[ima]

If you're not Jewish, the destruction of Israel wouldn't affect you "personally". And even for Jews outside of Israel, it's not a "personal" tragedy because they're not destroying Judaism, just some random landmass.

Ask the irish if they would appreciate it if England carpet-bombed ireland.

Irish is a nationality. Jewish is a religion. Got a relevant argument?

 

[JStone]

If you're not Jewish, the destruction of Israel wouldn't affect you "personally". And even for Jews outside of Israel, it's not a "personal" tragedy because they're not destroying Judaism, just some random landmass.

IMA DUNCE





Massachussets Institute of Technology [MIT]...

As a world leader in science and technology, Israel excels in such areas as genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics, and engineering. Scientists at Israeli universities such as Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, Hebrew University, The Technion--Israel Institute of Technology, Tel Aviv University and the Weizmann Institute of Science are pioneers in areas such as stem cell-based tissue engineering, nanotechnology, high-resolution electron microscopy, and solar energy. Israeli companies have developed such diverse products as the first anti-virus package, technologies that allow you to leave voice mail on mobile phones, and stents that save lives by keeping the arteries to the heart open.
MISTI MIT-Israel

 

[SAYIT]

"Victims' rights groups say the number of 'honor crimes' appears to be climbing, but at the same time, getting little attention. Israelis and Palestinians are too busy with political and military issues to notice what they dismiss as domestic disputes, says Suad Abu-Dayyeh, who works for the Women's Center for Legal Aid and Counseling in East Jerusalem.

"Poverty and war have exacerbated the problem, says Nadera Shalhoub-Kevorkian, a social work and criminology professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and an expert on violence against women. 'Men do not have any power except over women,' she says."

Once again the illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine makes life even worse for the most vulnerable.

The Seattle Times: Nation & World: Mother kills raped daughter to restore 'honor'

Yeah, everyone knows how well women are treated in the rest of the Arab/Muslim World.

How many US children have the Arabs murdered lately?QUOTE]


What the hell does that have to do with the way women are treated in the Arab/Muslim World (yeah, they REQUIRE their own WORLD and a bit of everyone else's, too)?

 

[Lipush]

If you're not Jewish, the destruction of Israel wouldn't affect you "personally". And even for Jews outside of Israel, it's not a "personal" tragedy because they're not destroying Judaism, just some random landmass.

Ask the irish if they would appreciate it if England carpet-bombed ireland.

Irish is a nationality. Jewish is a religion. Got a relevant argument?

Judaism is nationality

 

[georgephillip]

Ask the irish if they would appreciate it if England carpet-bombed ireland.

Irish is a nationality. Jewish is a religion. Got a relevant argument?

Judaism is nationality

Can you explain the distinction between citizenship and nationality in the Jewish State?
Which affords the greater rights?

 

[JStone]

Irish is a nationality. Jewish is a religion. Got a relevant argument?

Judaism is nationality

Can you explain the distinction between citizenship and nationality in the Jewish State?
Which affords the greater rights?

Still zero reputational points, georgie?

Arab-American Dr. Wafa Sultan, Human Rights Activist, Among "Time Magazine's 100 Heroes and Pioneers Whose Power, Talent Or Moral Example Is Transforming Our World"

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1975813_1975847_1976751,00.html.

Israel - The One And The Only Free Democratic Country In The Entire Middle East.

I believe that any nation that grants equal opportunity to every citizen, regardless of race, religion, political affiliation, or gender, thereby, establishes its moral legitimacy. According to this principle, Israel stands alone in the Middle East region, as a nation with moral legitimacy: it grants all citizens equal rights for men and women alike, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech and of the press. Not a single Arab or Muslim country in the surrounding region does the same. Nor do any of those Arab and Muslim nations allow their citizens personal freedom, or the right to maintain and express opposing points of view.

These essential qualities of life provide oxygen for the human soul; they are the kind of basic nourishment that is desperately missing in all of Israel's Muslim neighbors. Yet, the so-called humanitarian aid organizations at the United Nations direct all their energy to act against anything and everything Israel does. Let me ask: as every human being deserves to live in dignity, why has an enormous unbalanced portion of global aid gone mostly to Palestinians, while millions of underprivileged people all over the world suffer genuine, life-threatening deprivation? Here is why: The United Nations time and again focuses its power on the perpetual manufacturing of false anti-Israel accusations. Painting Palestinians as perennial underdogs provides the perfect cover for their subversive effort. Without doubt, this trend encourages hatred and violence against the Jewish people in Israel and everywhere else. And that is exactly its point.

A Palestinian women's organization reported that Muslim men perpetrate some 40 honor killings annually in the West Bank alone, not including the vast majority of honor killing and abuse of women that go unreported -- as Islamic society maintains secrecy in upholding the popular belief that those "cursed with a sin, [should] hide it."

According to recent face-to-face surveys by prominent international pollsters, more Palestinians in East Jerusalem would prefer to be citizens of Israel than citizens of a new Palestinian state -- and 40% would probably or definitely move to avoid Palestinian rule.

Those who love liberty and life will strengthen their ties and warm relations with Israel, and stand with her. Israel will continue to shine its light among all nations.

The United Nations and Human Rights Abuse | EuropeNews

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah, everyone knows how well women are treated in the rest of the Arab/Muslim World.

How many US children have the Arabs murdered lately?QUOTE]


What the hell does that have to do with the way women are treated in the Arab/Muslim World (yeah, they REQUIRE their own WORLD and a bit of everyone else's, too)?

Regardless of the behavior of individual Arab religious fundamentalists, their governments are not murdering and maiming thousands of women and children thousands of miles from their homelands.

How about yours?

"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:931–6)"

MMS: Error

 

[JStone]

How many US children have the Arabs murdered lately?QUOTE]


What the hell does that have to do with the way women are treated in the Arab/Muslim World (yeah, they REQUIRE their own WORLD and a bit of everyone else's, too)?

Regardless of the behavior of individual Arab religious fundamentalists, their governments are not murdering and maiming thousands of women and children thousands of miles from their homelands.

How about yours?

"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:931–6)"

MMS: Error

Still no reputational points, georgie?

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani scholar, journalist, and author and former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today

A Muslim In A Jewish Land

I tried very hard to find any Muslim state that has true democracy and where religious minorities are accorded equal democratic rights, but failed. The map of the Muslim world is too crowded with kings, despots, dictators, sham democrats and theocratic autocrats and the persecution of minorities is an essential part of Islamist social behavior.

Here, protected by Israel's democratic principles, the Muslim Arab citizens of Israel are afforded all the rights and privileges of Israeli citizenship. When the first elections to the Knesset were held in February 1949, Israeli Arabs were given the right to vote and to be elected along with Israeli Jews. Today, Israel's Arab citizens are accorded full civil and political rights entitled to complete participation in Israeli society. They are active in Israeli social, political and civic life and enjoy representation in Israel's Parliament, Foreign Service and judicial system.

Large Arab residences, wide spread construction activity and big cars underlined the prosperity and affluence of Palestinians living under the Star of David. The big houses owned by Arab Israelis and the amount of construction that was going on in the Arab towns exposed the falsity of propaganda that Israel discriminates against Israeli Arabs from buying lands. The Arab Waqf owns land that is for the express use and benefit of Muslim Arabs. Government land can be leased by anyone, regardless of race, religion or sex. All Arab citizens of Israel are eligible to lease government land.

On my way from the city of David to the Royal Prima hotel in Jerusalem, I asked my Palestinian taxi driver how he feels about moving to the territories under Palestinian Authority. He said that he could never think of living outside Israel. His answer blasted the myth spread by anti-Semites that Israel's Arab citizens are not happy there. Another Israeli Arab informed me that Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights. In fact, Israel is one of the few countries in the Middle East where Arab women can vote. In contrast to the non-Israeli Arab world, Arab women in Israel enjoy the same status as men. Muslim women have the right to vote and to be elected to public office. Muslim women, in fact are more liberated in Israel than in any Muslim country. Israeli law prohibits polygamy, child marriage, and the barbarity of female sexual mutilation. Moreover, I found out that there are no incidences of honor killings in Israel. The status of Muslim women in Israel is far above that of any country in the region. Israeli health standards are by far the highest in the Middle East and Israeli health institutions are freely open to all Arabs, on the same basis as they are to Jews.

Israel's Arabic press is the most vibrant and independent of any country in the region. There are more than 20 Arabic periodicals. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools. Israeli universities are renowned centers of learning in the history and literature of the Arab Middle East.
Aware of the constraints that a non-Wahhabi is faced with while performing religious rituals in Saudi Arabia, Kiran (my wife) could not hide her surprise at the freedoms and ease with which peoples of all religions and faiths were carrying out their religious obligations at the Church of the holy Sepulcher, Garden Tomb, Sea of Galilee, newly discovered Western Wall Tunnels, Western Wall, tomb of King David and all the other holy places we visited.

My first visit to Israel has not only consolidated my belief that Israel is vital for the stability of the region but has also convinced me that the existence of Israel will one day convince the Muslims of the necessity of reformation in their theology as well as sociology. Looking at the development and transformation that the land has gone through because of the Jewish innovative spirit, hard labor and commitment to freedoms for all times to come, I am convinced that it is true that God created this earth but it is also a fact that only an Israel can keep this earth from dying.
Muslim World Today: Front Page 1222005

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How many US children have the Arabs murdered lately?QUOTE]


What the hell does that have to do with the way women are treated in the Arab/Muslim World (yeah, they REQUIRE their own WORLD and a bit of everyone else's, too)?

Regardless of the behavior of individual Arab religious fundamentalists, their governments are not murdering and maiming thousands of women and children thousands of miles from their homelands.

How about yours?

"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:931–6)"

MMS: Error

I love those fake reports about Iraq. So factual. LOL!

 

[SAYIT]

How many US children have the Arabs murdered lately?QUOTE]


What the hell does that have to do with the way women are treated in the Arab/Muslim World (yeah, they REQUIRE their own WORLD and a bit of everyone else's, too)?

Regardless of the behavior of individual Arab religious fundamentalists, their governments are not murdering and maiming thousands of women and children thousands of miles from their homelands.

How about yours?

"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:931–6)"
MMS: Error

What? I respond to your post (in which you blame Israel for violence toward women among Palestinians) by pointing out that women are poorly treated throughout the Arab/Muslim World. Not only do you then completely dodge the subject, you totally ignore the plight of well over 100 million women, a plight you yourself blamed Israel for before truncating the thread and finally trashing America.
You are the lowest form of human (and I apply term loosely).