Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

  • Yes, Trump Needed Russia to Win

    Votes: 23 16.4%
  • No, Hillary Lost on Her Own

    Votes: 114 81.4%
  • Meh, I Don't Care

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Total voters
    140
In my opinion Comey did have a large impact. People liked to shit on the polls after the election, but they weren't far off. Hillary's numbers steadily declined shortly after Comey's statement. People like to selectively cite polls from shortly after "pussy gate" to bash the pollsters, but I remember them being almost neck and neck following Comey's statement about the email investigation.
 
Did they change the outcome???.....NO

Did they meddle where they don't belong???...….probably and that should be a lesson to be learned by our government. FIX IT so nobody can interfere again, instead of continuing to whine about it & point fingers over it.


If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem......simple as that

what happens when the 'president' doesn't even believe it happened & is doing nothing to make sure it can't happen again? a lot of people just wanna swallow hard.

So the FBI, DOJ, or Office of Voting Security or whatever agency is in charge of that, or the States themselves can't do anything on their own to review & improve the security of future elections????
 
Did they change the outcome???.....NO

Did they meddle where they don't belong???...….probably and that should be a lesson to be learned by our government. FIX IT so nobody can interfere again, instead of continuing to whine about it & point fingers over it.


If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem......simple as that

what happens when the 'president' doesn't even believe it happened & is doing nothing to make sure it can't happen again? a lot of people just wanna swallow hard.

So the FBI, DOJ, or Office of Voting Security or whatever agency is in charge of that, or the States themselves can't do anything on their own to review & improve the security of future elections????

I think asking the likely culprits to cut it out while in a face to face meeting is well within reason.
 
Did they change the outcome???.....NO

Did they meddle where they don't belong???...….probably and that should be a lesson to be learned by our government. FIX IT so nobody can interfere again, instead of continuing to whine about it & point fingers over it.


If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem......simple as that

what happens when the 'president' doesn't even believe it happened & is doing nothing to make sure it can't happen again? a lot of people just wanna swallow hard.

So the FBI, DOJ, or Office of Voting Security or whatever agency is in charge of that, or the States themselves can't do anything on their own to review & improve the security of future elections????

I think asking the likely culprits to cut it out while in a face to face meeting is well within reason.

Possibly, if we were on better terms with Russia to begin with.;...……..but considering the tumultuous relationship between US & Russia....confronting & accusing them isn't the best foot forward. So I can see why that subject was left off the table, when trying to formulate a positive alliance with a former enemy.
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
FYI
Only 70,000 swung the electoral college!

And Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders cost Hillary the Electoral College, and not Russia.

Maybe next time understand how your political party need the green vote or don't and never learn...
right.... everyone else but the massive Russian influence campaign hurt her....

:rolleyes:

okee dokee
 
That's been the lefts strategy for a decade with terrorists lol.
Not true, not really funny, either...glad you got a cackle out of it...

Can you IMAGINE the way you shriveled old fossils would be dancing like wind socks, had a democratic president ignored the memo stating that 9/11 attack was imminent? We would be squeegeeing up drool for a year.
 
That's been the lefts strategy for a decade with terrorists lol.
Not true, not really funny, either...glad you got a cackle out of it...

Can you IMAGINE the way you shriveled old fossils would be dancing like wind socks, had a democratic president ignored the memo stating that 9/11 attack was imminent? We would be squeegeeing up drool for a year.
We shudda bombed another aspirin factory and a couple camels. That surely would have stopped them.
 
That's been the lefts strategy for a decade with terrorists lol.
Not true, not really funny, either...glad you got a cackle out of it...

Can you IMAGINE the way you shriveled old fossils would be dancing like wind socks, had a democratic president ignored the memo stating that 9/11 attack was imminent? We would be squeegeeing up drool for a year.
We shudda bombed another aspirin factory and a couple camels. That surely would have stopped them.
We probably could not have stopped them, nor do I blame our leaders for the actions of our enemies. I'll leave that to the jackasses.
 
One candidate was talking to the people:

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While the other one was hanging with the elites.

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And people are worried Russia lost her the election?
 
Did they change the outcome???.....NO

Did they meddle where they don't belong???...….probably and that should be a lesson to be learned by our government. FIX IT so nobody can interfere again, instead of continuing to whine about it & point fingers over it.


If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem......simple as that

what happens when the 'president' doesn't even believe it happened & is doing nothing to make sure it can't happen again? a lot of people just wanna swallow hard.

So the FBI, DOJ, or Office of Voting Security or whatever agency is in charge of that, or the States themselves can't do anything on their own to review & improve the security of future elections????

I think asking the likely culprits to cut it out while in a face to face meeting is well within reason.

Possibly, if we were on better terms with Russia to begin with.;...……..but considering the tumultuous relationship between US & Russia....confronting & accusing them isn't the best foot forward. So I can see why that subject was left off the table, when trying to formulate a positive alliance with a former enemy.

If, as you acknowledged earlier is likely, Russia did meddle in our elections then they aren't a former enemy, and they aren't looking for a positive alliance. Yet Trump has no qualms about shitting on his own party and intelligence community on a daily basis. Where is the consistency in that?
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
Funniest post of the week right here.
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.
Not familiar with LBJ’s machinations in South Texas and Dailey’s in Illinois to give Kennedy the victory huh?
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
FYI
Only 70,000 swung the electoral college!


how many swung it in Florida, 2000?
less than 500 difference between bush v gore

but al gore got around 10,000 votes in palm beach county.... due to the butterfly ballot... that did not count.... Pat Buccanon spent zero advertising in Palm beach county and made zero visits campaigning there..... most all of the votes he got, were for Gore, even Buccanon says so....

the PEOPLE of Florida, overwhelmingly picked Gore over Bush.

the conservative u.s.supreme court picked Bush.... :D

Only if you ignore all the dimpled chads and hanging chads that were awarded to Gore by the Florida Supreme Court. Most probably caused by attempting to put too many ballet cards in the punch at the same time.

If you were to read the U.S. Constitution you would readily see that once the vote controversy ensued, Bush was going to win Florida, and did not need the U.S. Supreme Court to do so. The Florida Legislature was in special session and was prepared to send their own slate of electors to Washington. The Republicans in congress would have accepted that slate over the slate derived by the Florida Supreme Court.

There was no way Gore was going to steal Florida.
 
If Russians helped Trump to be elected where is the frickn' EVIDENCE????????

It's been almost 2 years and only blah-blah instead of single fact!
What kind of evidence would prove it, to you?

What is it that you want to see?
They don't want to see or accept anything....they've already gone all in on trump.
If the Trump campaign did not conspire with the Russians, then regardless of the Russian influence, Trump won fair and square....it would not be Trump's fault for the Russian's criminal doings.....

BUT if the Trump campaign was condoning it and helping them/conspiring with the Russians,

then Trump and his team, CHEATED and we don't let known cheaters keep the crown, the second runner up, gets it!

The presidency is different than a Beauty contest, has different rules, but the bottom line is still the same, we don't let cheaters, keep their win.... even if they would have won, without the cheating they did.
Now, substitute Obama for Trump in this reply and tell Me where you stand with that. Because we KNOW that Obama was aware of the Russians, whereas Trump being aware of the Russians is nothing more than a progressive nutjob talking point.
 

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