Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

  • Yes, Trump Needed Russia to Win

    Votes: 23 16.4%
  • No, Hillary Lost on Her Own

    Votes: 114 81.4%
  • Meh, I Don't Care

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Total voters
    140
Here is why -

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It's very simple, and it concerns me. Is it possible that they in fact hacked servers and changed votes? That is the only way they impacted the election and in the back of my mind I have always suspected it could be possible, just because of the reaction. All the more reason to demand ID to vote.

Otherwise, no way in hell they make up the difference. That is all on Hillary and Americans desire for change. Obama is as much a reason Trump is president as any, he was dragging America to socialism.
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
 
If Russians helped Trump to be elected where is the frickn' EVIDENCE????????

It's been almost 2 years of blah-blah instead of one single fact!
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.

Democrats have no history of doing these things.

They don't?
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
FYI
Only 70,000 swung the electoral college!
 
It's very simple, and it concerns me. Is it possible that they in fact hacked servers and changed votes? That is the only way they impacted the election and in the back of my mind I have always suspected it could be possible, just because of the reaction. All the more reason to demand ID to vote.

Otherwise, no way in hell they make up the difference. That is all on Hillary and Americans desire for change. Obama is as much a reason Trump is president as any, he was dragging America to socialism.

Did the hacking of the DNC servers affect the election? Yes...but only because it revealed how sleazy and corrupt the leaders of the DNC were and how they were busy screwing over Bernie Sanders to hand the nomination to Hillary Clinton.
To be painfully blunt...if Hillary and her minions hadn't been so sleazy and corrupt...then the Russians wouldn't have had anything to embarrass her and the Democratic National Committee with. It's a chicken or the egg type of argument but the bottom line is that if you don't do sleazy and corrupt things...then you can't be embarrassed by people finding out about what you've done.
 
Only about 200K votes swung the election because of the Gerrymandering, Voter Intimidation and rules changes by Republicans mostly in Red states. Democrats have no history of doing these things.

The Comey announcement combined with the Social Media blitz by the Russians and the Wiki-leaks releases definitely swung the election with only 200K votes in the balance. If Trump had won the popular vote, I would be skeptical. He didn't, even though he would like you to believe he did.

We have a country now run by a President selected by the minority of the country. It would not be so bad if he was at least competent.
FYI
Only 70,000 swung the electoral college!


how many swung it in Florida, 2000?
 
changed?

no.

influenced deplorables by playing on their poorly educated fears & racism, fence sitters, & jill stein voters & bernie bros especially after those 'discovered' duplicate e-mails on weiner's computer came into play?

yep.
 
I'mJeannie'sDad, for All the Dangling Langleys Know

The world we are informed about is only a simple-minded cartoon version of the real world. Russian intelligence (literally) was assigned to find out about the temper of the nation, not to interfere with it. They wisely ignored the partisan media and polls and dug deeply into what was going on. Our shallow pundits isolated themselves and were stuck on ignorant theories about voters they looked down upon and had little contact with. So the Russian agents found out first, informing Putin that he ought to praise Trump to get on the good side beforehand with a sure winner.

On our side, the fraternity jocks and academic hermits at the C"I"A had the same assignment on the Iranian 2005 Presidential election. With a rosy scenario injecting a thorn in their weak brains, these chronic failures predicted that Ahmadinejad would get 5% of the vote and was no threat to Iran's imaginary march towards sanity. He got 62%.
 
It's very simple, and it concerns me. Is it possible that they in fact hacked servers and changed votes? That is the only way they impacted the election and in the back of my mind I have always suspected it could be possible, just because of the reaction. All the more reason to demand ID to vote.

Otherwise, no way in hell they make up the difference. That is all on Hillary and Americans desire for change. Obama is as much a reason Trump is president as any, he was dragging America to socialism.

It's a definite that the Russian hacked into the DNC's, the Hillary campaign, and the State Department's servers, thanks to the complete lack of security on them. And the hell of it is, all this happened on Obama's and Hillary's watch, even though he claimed that the "1980's called" and they "wanted their foreign policy back."

The truth is that had the Democrats won, they would be running this country with the same incompetence they were back when Obama was President. As for changing anyone's vote, very unlikely. Hillary was a true POS and even though there were people who would willingly vote for a POS like Hillary, they weren't about to cross party lines and vote for a Republican.

I will also add this: The very idea that any democrat could be swayed by the Russians into voting against their own party, shows just how insecure they really are.
 
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changed?

no.

influenced deplorables by playing on their poorly educated fears & racism, fence sitters, & jill stein voters & bernie bros especially after those 'discovered' duplicate e-mails on weiner's computer came into play?

yep.

and just as likely the 'known fact it was Hillarys turn', which polls kept proving, kept voters at home, instead of going to the polls and ensuring it.
 
My answer is no

-Geaux

I believe the 2016 election to be the most corrupt in my lifetime. I believe the republicans were more successful than their democrat counterparts in successfully rigging an American election for their 'guy'.
You're kidding right? The Republicans hated DJT. He steamrolled all comers. 12 of them.... You think they helped him?

No way

-Geaux
 
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