Do Republicans hate America?

[manifold]

Reading through many of these threads it strikes me as somewhat peculiar to see so many self-identified republicans hoping (even praying) that Obama fails miserably and that America is befallen by an economic catastrophe of never-before-seen epic proportions. Isn't the only logical conclusion that they must hate America? What other reason could they have to so desperately hope for Americans to suffer more than we've ever suffered before?

 

[Bern80]

Reading through many of these threads it strikes me as somewhat peculiar to see so many self-identified republicans hoping (even praying) that Obama fails miserably and that America is befallen by an economic catastrophe of never-before-seen epic proportions. Isn't the only logical conclusion that they must hate America? What other reason could they have to so desperately hope for Americans to suffer more than we've ever suffered before?

Perhaps it is because your argument rests on straw-man, faulty premise. You hoped Bush failed didn't you? Well my friend, it is obviously YOU that hates Americans. Maybe rephrase to make this thread slightly less ridiculous.

 

[manifold]

Reading through many of these threads it strikes me as somewhat peculiar to see so many self-identified republicans hoping (even praying) that Obama fails miserably and that America is befallen by an economic catastrophe of never-before-seen epic proportions. Isn't the only logical conclusion that they must hate America? What other reason could they have to so desperately hope for Americans to suffer more than we've ever suffered before?

Perhaps it is because your argument rests on straw-man, faulty premise.

How so?

Have you not perused this board in a while?

 

[manifold]

You can start with any threads started by KMAN or Sinatra.

Then come back here and tell me my premise is faulty.

 

[Angel Heart]

I'm for the principals that the party was founded on. If America isn't that anymore, then it's time to move on. I will be marching on April 15th. I know many more will join me.

 

[manifold]

What's April 15th?

Besides tax day of course.

 

[Care4all]

marching for what angel?

 

[michiganFats]

My question would be "Do our elected representatives hate America?" As I see it, they do.

 

[Ravi]

Reading through many of these threads it strikes me as somewhat peculiar to see so many self-identified republicans hoping (even praying) that Obama fails miserably and that America is befallen by an economic catastrophe of never-before-seen epic proportions. Isn't the only logical conclusion that they must hate America? What other reason could they have to so desperately hope for Americans to suffer more than we've ever suffered before?

I think the way it works is this...if you disagree with any Republican policy, you hate America. If you wish for Obama to fail, you love America. And lately it seems if you disagree with Rush Limbaugh AND you are a Republican, you hate America. If you live in the small pockets where "real" Americans live you love real America and hate false America...which is the majority of America but that doesn't mean you are being unpatriotic.

It's kind of confusing.

 

[Ravi]

I'm for the principals that the party was founded on. If America isn't that anymore, then it's time to move on. I will be marching on April 15th. I know many more will join me.

Why...aren't you one of the ones that gets back more than you pay in? If so, why are you marching to protect high income from being taxed?

 

[rayboyusmc]

Stating that you are against Bush's policies in Iraq, taxes, FISA, spying, etc is not the same as saying that you hope he fails like Rushbo did. And don't tell me that this is semantics, it isn't.

I actually wish he had suceeded and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. If conservative policies actually worked, I would be for them. I don't think in general that they do.

 

[michiganFats]

Stating that you are against Bush's policies in Iraq, taxes, FISA, spying, etc is not the same as saying that you hope he fails like Rushbo did. And don't tell me that this is semantics, it isn't.

I actually wish he had suceeded and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. If conservative policies actually worked, I would be for them. I don't think in general that they do.

I would be shocked if you even knew the definiton of semantics.

 

[DiamondDave]

You can start with any threads started by KMAN or Sinatra.

Then come back here and tell me my premise is faulty.

And you cannot be countered with the likes of Orange_Juice, Yukon, bobo the assclown, Chris, yourself, etc??



Nobody but the whackos HOPES any President fails in his or her duty...

But believing that a President is doing wrong is not nearly the same thing... and the vast majority of us know or fully believe that Obama is doing wrong by the office and by the founding principles of this country... the vast majority of us fully believe that extreme leftism is wrong for this country by the principles this country was founded upon

I fully wish for Obama to take his head out of his ass, and for the democrat controlled congress to get their heads out of their collective asses and steer the ship by what is set forth in the constitution.... we don't think it will happen, but we do indeed wish for it to happen

 

[Angel Heart]

marching for what angel?

TaxDayTeaParty.com

Marching to end the spending. Marching to end the taxing. Marching for real change and not just talk.

 

[Angel Heart]

I'm for the principals that the party was founded on. If America isn't that anymore, then it's time to move on. I will be marching on April 15th. I know many more will join me.

Why...aren't you one of the ones that gets back more than you pay in? If so, why are you marching to protect high income from being taxed?

If it means dragging us all down, it's not worth it.

 

[michiganFats]

Anyone hoping for another tea party is a fool

 

[Angel Heart]

It's happening... And I'm helping plan it.

 

[michiganFats]

Good, you'll be shot by your own

 

[sealybobo]

Stating that you are against Bush's policies in Iraq, taxes, FISA, spying, etc is not the same as saying that you hope he fails like Rushbo did. And don't tell me that this is semantics, it isn't.

I actually wish he had suceeded and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. If conservative policies actually worked, I would be for them. I don't think in general that they do.

Sometimes I read your posts or Chris' and I think I wrote them myself.

Now Republicans will call us liars, because they don't feel this way and they think it is impossible that we could be sincere, but it is true.

We just wanted to know why we went into Iraq. So it wasn't WMD's. It later became about giving democracy to Iraq.

Did we impeach Bush for lying? No.

So we tried to tell Americans, "hey Americans, Bush is bankrupting us over in iraq, creating more terrorists, not making us safer, has our troops policing a civil war, torturing, etc.

And Republicans came back and suggested we were aiding the enemy, or not supporting the troops.

We were not screaming I HOPE IT FAILS, but the GOP were crying that we wanted it to fail.

We never admitted that.

But Rush did. He admitted that he/they want Obama and America to fail. Big difference.

Now I understand Rush's explanation/justification. He doesn't want Obama's socialism to succeed. Anyone buying that? Reminds me of when McCain said the fundamentals of our economy were strong, and then later said he meant the American people.

 

[Bern80]

Reading through many of these threads it strikes me as somewhat peculiar to see so many self-identified republicans hoping (even praying) that Obama fails miserably and that America is befallen by an economic catastrophe of never-before-seen epic proportions. Isn't the only logical conclusion that they must hate America? What other reason could they have to so desperately hope for Americans to suffer more than we've ever suffered before?

Perhaps it is because your argument rests on straw-man, faulty premise.

How so?

Have you not perused this board in a while?

Wanting Obama to fail in terms of spening exhorbitant amounts of money and generally enacting more socialistic policies is a hair different than hoping people suffer. Much as you would like them to be, the two ideas are not mutally exclusive.