Do Putin and Trump have common interests?

Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”
If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.


Who said anything about hillary or obongo?

obama caught on mic - Bing video
 
So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

Do you not understand that the investigation has not ended? And that it has not been almost 3 years?
 
If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

What policies has Trump promoted, or put in place that are PRO Putin, and/or PRO Russia?
Reluctance to impose sanctions, willingness to conceed the Crimea issue, weakening of Western alliances and trade. Attempting destruction of NATO. It's a long list.


You are a Hoot Butt Hurt.....
 
So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

Do you not understand that the investigation has not ended? And that it has not been almost 3 years?

It's not an investigation...

It's a Witch Hunt.....
 
Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”

The Donald no need to destabilise, allowing 2 MILLION feral Kebabs in without permission is enough to destablise this approx within between 2020-2022.

The future belong to the Right-Wing and the Right in general, on this Continent the Left are dying every election now they are being demolished at the election having their biggest defeats since the 1930s and in many instance reduced to very below 20% sometimes below 10% the peoples do not support what the Leftists Agenda is they do not support Open Borders and putting their own last and feral waste from Third World Shit Holes first.
 
NO. All of Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests.

Energy Policy - Trump is maximizing domestic U.S. production of fossil fuels. Putin hates that.

Defense Policy - Trump is building up our military. Putin hates that.

International Relations - Trump is attempting to normalize relations with NK. Putin hates that.

Foreign Trade - Trump is holding countries accountable for UNFAIR trade practices, including Russia. Putin hates that.
You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?

"What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals?"

Are you being Paid to Post this Propaganda?

Russia has influenced NO election on this Continent, the reason the peoples are voting for Nationalists and Populists is because Bitch Merkel UNILATERALLY decide in August 2015 to Open Borders to invite Kebabs and Sub Saharan Africans in to filth up this beautiful Continent, this was NOT a popular situation with the peoples of this Continent the ONLY ones who supported this was a MINORITY of Leftists and also Far Leftist Activists so the inevitable and logical result of this was that Nationalist and Populists started getting elected and now we have MANY Governments being run by Our Team and all of this had ZERO to do with Russia influencing our elections and it is going to get greater we are only just beginning 2020 we will have control of the majority of this Continent in our estimation only the British, Republic of Ireland and Portugal will be on the Left, Spain will have a General Election before mid-2019 and Albert Rivera and Cs—C's will win they lead in all polls and in September Sweden will be voting Right-Wing Conservative, the Leftist Government and Stefan Löfven will be rejected the next Prime Minister of Sweden is going to be Ulf Hjalmar Kristersson.
 
So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

Do you not understand that the investigation has not ended? And that it has not been almost 3 years?

It's not an investigation...

It's a Witch Hunt.....

No, that's what Trump tells you it is. And he's the one being investigated.
 
Donald Trump will hold talks with Vladimir Putin, despite criticism in the US, as such a meeting is in America’s national interest, the utterly diplomatic US National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters in Moscow.

A full range of issues” will be discussed by Trump and Putin when they finally get together, including arms control agreements, alleged Russian meddling and Moscow rejoining the G8, he said.

Trump to meet Putin regardless of ‘noise’ at home as it’s in US national interest – Bolton
I think diplomacy between Russia & USA is good for mutual relations. I also think “fair” diplomacy with other nations is good too, including participation in nearly all UN activities, especially by the most powerful nations.
I was sad to read that USA exited from the UN Human Rights Council. Huh?
Also, Trump reversed on the Paris climate change accords that nearly all nations supported. Maybe Putin can convince Trump to reconsider?

"including participation in nearly all UN activities"

The UN is a Neo-Marxist organisation that is detrimental to the health of Western nations, they now exist entirely to push the Open Borders Agenda, to insist that ONLY Western nations should accept that we have to allow our nations to be flooded with the waste from Third World Shit Holes.

"I was sad to read that USA exited from the UN Human Rights Council. Huh?"

No The Donald was correct in doing what he did with that.

The UN Human Rights Council that illustrates why the UN needs to be destroyed, for example 11 nations on The UN Human Rights Council have a HORRIFIC record of violating their OWN POPULATIONS human rights they are the Democratic Republic of Congo, Angola, Burundi, Egypt, Rwanda, Mexico (nation in the control of vicious Drug Cartels who frequently cut the heads off peoples, recent election 130 political candidates murdered during election campaign), Cuba, Venezuela, China, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Full list of members on The UN Human Rights Council:

OHCHR | HRC Membership of the Human Rights Council, 1 January - 31 December 2018
 
Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”

iu


Germany's done, dude. They already let too many Muslims in, have been doing it for around 20 years.

They've been screwing the US with high tariffs on our goods while we pay for their defense. They better raise an army if they think they need one. Free ride is over!
 
NO. All of Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests.

Energy Policy - Trump is maximizing domestic U.S. production of fossil fuels. Putin hates that.

Defense Policy - Trump is building up our military. Putin hates that.

International Relations - Trump is attempting to normalize relations with NK. Putin hates that.

Foreign Trade - Trump is holding countries accountable for UNFAIR trade practices, including Russia. Putin hates that.
You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?
are you saying that was the first time they messed with our elections?
 
You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?

European nationalism, and independence is certainly not in the interest of Russia. I don't think the Russians had any significant influence in the election of Trump. The Dems, and the Media have been trying to prove that since his election, and that was November of 2016, two years, and eight months ago.
I recall ALL the USA’s top intelligence agencies, and a top cybersecurity company, provided lots of evidence that Russian operatives played a major role in influencing Trump’s election.

Then you should recall a linky for that, no? :link:

PS: A link is required for your OP. You're not allowed to plagiarize a website without a link.
 
Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”
Trump has a lot in common with Putin.

1. They both like females
2. They both like to eat
3. They both drink water
4. They both think Obama is a fool
5. They both have money
6. They both are against the muslim horde
7. They both want the best for their country
8. They both think liberals should be seen and not heard
9. They are both targets for the lying American media
10. They both support a strong military.
11. They are both against the new world order
12. They are both against the global warming scam
Etc etc.
 
So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

Do you not understand that the investigation has not ended? And that it has not been almost 3 years?

It's not an investigation...

It's a Witch Hunt.....

No, that's what Trump tells you it is. And he's the one being investigated.


In the end it's the investigators that will be found guilty of collusion...
 
So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

Do you not understand that the investigation has not ended? And that it has not been almost 3 years?

It's not an investigation...

It's a Witch Hunt.....

No, that's what Trump tells you it is. And he's the one being investigated.


In the end it's the investigators that will be found guilty of collusion...

It begins next week. It would this week, but..the 4th.

iu


iu
 
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NO. All of Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests.

Energy Policy - Trump is maximizing domestic U.S. production of fossil fuels. Putin hates that.

Defense Policy - Trump is building up our military. Putin hates that.

International Relations - Trump is attempting to normalize relations with NK. Putin hates that.

Foreign Trade - Trump is holding countries accountable for UNFAIR trade practices, including Russia. Putin hates that.

Energy: Trump pulling out of the Iran Deal is good for Russia. The EU can’t buy oil from Iran. Now they have to buy Russian oil.

Defence policy: Trump has given Putin a free hand over its “domestic affairs”. Russia considers Crimea and the Ukraine “domestic affairs”. Trump has also said the US won’t come to the aid of NATO allies behind on the defence commitments and the Ukraine is behind.

NK: Russia shares a border with NK and wants the joint US/SK military exercises stopped. Trump is now calling these exercises “provocative” which is what Putin calls them.

Trade: Trump is tearing up all the trade agreements and threatening the WTC all of which made the US the richest nation on earth. Since Putin’s goal is to destroy the US, he couldn’t be more pleased. A trade war in the west almost makes the sanctions worthwhile.

Except for sanctions, which Congress and the Senate have taken form control of, Putin’s has gotten everything he could possibly have asked for with Trump.

The total destruction of the Trade deals has put China as the lead nation of the TPP, not the US. NATO is fractured.

Everything on the list puts a big smile on Putin’s face.

And NO, he’s not getting back into the G7. What part of murdering British citizens on British soil does Trump not understand?
 
Yes, they are both self-centered greedy criminals who enjoy human suffering.
Donald wakes up each morning and while lighting the scented candles in his Vlad shrine, asks himself one simple question:
What can I do today to please Him, and be even more like Him whilst promoting His agenda?

putin-scented-candle-300x250.jpg
 
If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

What policies has Trump promoted, or put in place that are PRO Putin, and/or PRO Russia?
Reluctance to impose sanctions, willingness to conceed the Crimea issue, weakening of Western alliances and trade. Attempting destruction of NATO. It's a long list.


You are a Hoot Butt Hurt.....
You can't refute any of my points can you.
 
If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

What policies has Trump promoted, or put in place that are PRO Putin, and/or PRO Russia?
Reluctance to impose sanctions, willingness to conceed the Crimea issue, weakening of Western alliances and trade. Attempting destruction of NATO. It's a long list.


You are a Hoot Butt Hurt.....
You can't refute any of my points can you.
It looks to me that your "points" are all media hoo haa.
 
Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”
 

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