Do Putin and Trump have common interests?

[denmark]

Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”

 

[denmark]

Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”

Donald Trump's Attacks on Germany: The Enemy in the White House - SPIEGEL ONLINE

 

[Stratford57]

Donald Trump will hold talks with Vladimir Putin, despite criticism in the US, as such a meeting is in America’s national interest, the utterly diplomatic US National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters in Moscow.

A full range of issues” will be discussed by Trump and Putin when they finally get together, including arms control agreements, alleged Russian meddling and Moscow rejoining the G8, he said.

Trump to meet Putin regardless of ‘noise’ at home as it’s in US national interest – Bolton

 

[denmark]

Donald Trump will hold talks with Vladimir Putin, despite criticism in the US, as such a meeting is in America’s national interest, the utterly diplomatic US National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters in Moscow.

A full range of issues” will be discussed by Trump and Putin when they finally get together, including arms control agreements, alleged Russian meddling and Moscow rejoining the G8, he said.

Trump to meet Putin regardless of ‘noise’ at home as it’s in US national interest – Bolton

I think diplomacy between Russia & USA is good for mutual relations. I also think “fair” diplomacy with other nations is good too, including participation in nearly all UN activities, especially by the most powerful nations.
I was sad to read that USA exited from the UN Human Rights Council. Huh?
Also, Trump reversed on the Paris climate change accords that nearly all nations supported. Maybe Putin can convince Trump to reconsider?

 

[Pilot1]

NO. All of Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests.

Energy Policy - Trump is maximizing domestic U.S. production of fossil fuels. Putin hates that.

Defense Policy - Trump is building up our military. Putin hates that.

International Relations - Trump is attempting to normalize relations with NK. Putin hates that.

Foreign Trade - Trump is holding countries accountable for UNFAIR trade practices, including Russia. Putin hates that.

 

[MarcATL]

Besides both having 5-letter surnames, it appears that Putin & Trump share an extreme view on nationalism, and are intent on competition & conflict to enforce their views instead of diplomacy with other nations who are more balanced politically.

This commentary from the Spiegel is food for thought and debate ...

“Vladimir Putin operates in the shadows. The Russian president controls a clever disinformation campaign with the aim of upsetting the populations of Western countries, discrediting their institutions, dividing society, influencing elections and ultimately causing the collapse of liberal democracy. Nevertheless, there are still many people who continue to believe that Putin is innocent and that the claims are merely the malicious fabrications of Western intelligence agencies. Is it all just a conspiracy theory?

Regarding Donald Trump's intentions, by contrast, there can no longer be any doubt. Since taking office, he has carried out a scorched-earth policy against multi-lateral treaties of all kinds. He is a man with no interest in foreign policy, seeing it merely as an instrument to pursue his "America First" ideology. He views cooperation as a weakness, the latest proof being the US withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Trump’s open support for German right-wing populists is nothing less than a blatant attack by a foreign power on that country's government. It is a direct attempt by the White House to destabilize the Federal Republic of Germany.”

If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

 

[Pilot1]

If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

What policies has Trump promoted, or put in place that are PRO Putin, and/or PRO Russia?

 

[denmark]

NO. All of Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests.

Energy Policy - Trump is maximizing domestic U.S. production of fossil fuels. Putin hates that.

Defense Policy - Trump is building up our military. Putin hates that.

International Relations - Trump is attempting to normalize relations with NK. Putin hates that.

Foreign Trade - Trump is holding countries accountable for UNFAIR trade practices, including Russia. Putin hates that.

You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?

 

[Pilot1]

You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?

European nationalism, and independence is certainly not in the interest of Russia. I don't think the Russians had any significant influence in the election of Trump. The Dems, and the Media have been trying to prove that since his election, and that was November of 2016, two years, and eight months ago.

 

[denmark]

FYI, Trump was quoted on N.Korea issue at
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Vietnam ...
"If we had a relationship with Russia, that would be a good thing. In fact, it would be a great thing, not a bad thing. Because he could really help us in North Korea."

 

[denmark]

You have some good points, but you really think ALL Trump's policies are opposite Russian interests?
What about influencing European elections toward nationalistic goals? Ignoring Russian influences in the 2016 USA election?

European nationalism, and independence is certainly not in the interest of Russia. I don't think the Russians had any significant influence in the election of Trump. The Dems, and the Media have been trying to prove that since his election, and that was November of 2016, two years, and eight months ago.

I recall ALL the USA’s top intelligence agencies, and a top cybersecurity company, provided lots of evidence that Russian operatives played a major role in influencing Trump’s election.

 

[Pilot1]

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I recall ALL the USA’s top intelligence agencies, and a top cybersecurity company, provided lots of evidence that Russian operatives played a major role in influencing Trump’s election.

An argument can be made that those sources were, and continue to be biased. Also, if there had been anything illegal committed by the Trump campaign, it would have come out by now.

 

[denmark]

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I recall ALL the USA’s top intelligence agencies, and a top cybersecurity company, provided lots of evidence that Russian operatives played a major role in influencing Trump’s election.

An argument can be made that those sources were, and continue to be biased. Also, if there had been anything illegal committed by the Trump campaign, it would have come out by now.

You can always use the “bias” or “fake news” card if you don’t like a conclusion, but you cannot ignore the evidence presented. If you question the evidence, you need a logical counter-argument, aka alternative explanation.
How many Republican politicians & analysts argued against the Intelligence reports ... with decent explanations??

 

[Pilot1]

So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

 

[Stratford57]

So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

"There’s much talk about state interference in the electoral process but I haven’t seen a single fact to date," Russian Foreign Affairs Ministry Sergey Lavrov said.

"A US assistant secretary of homeland security supervising cybersecurity said unambiguously a few days ago they didn’t have any evidence of Russia’s interference with the last presidential race," he said.

"The situation where no facts have leaked the public sphere over-a-year that the investigation is in progress is simply impossible for the U.S.," Lavrov said. "If there were at least some smoldering, smoke would be seen at once."

"I think they’ve cornered themselves by declarations about precise data on Russian meddling and now they are trying to at least some retroactive justifications but still they are floundering," he said.
Lavrov says anti-Russian issues to dominate in US until midterms

 

[Crepitus]

If you consider being a puppet of Putin, then yes, they have common interests.

What policies has Trump promoted, or put in place that are PRO Putin, and/or PRO Russia?

Reluctance to impose sanctions, willingness to conceed the Crimea issue, weakening of Western alliances and trade. Attempting destruction of NATO. It's a long list.

 

[John Shaw]

Trump wishes he could be Putin, while Putin actually enjoys being Putin. "Being Vladimir Putin" is about the only interest they have in common.

 

[denmark]

So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

"There’s much talk about state interference in the electoral process but I haven’t seen a single fact to date," Russian Foreign Affairs Ministry Sergey Lavrov said.

"A US assistant secretary of homeland security supervising cybersecurity said unambiguously a few days ago they didn’t have any evidence of Russia’s interference with the last presidential race," he said.

"The situation where no facts have leaked the public sphere over-a-year that the investigation is in progress is simply impossible for the U.S.," Lavrov said. "If there were at least some smoldering, smoke would be seen at once."

"I think they’ve cornered themselves by declarations about precise data on Russian meddling and now they are trying to at least some retroactive justifications but still they are floundering," he said.
Lavrov says anti-Russian issues to dominate in US until midterms

You obviously work for Putin’s government. Which unit? You are not doing Putin a favor by citing Lavrov’s comments. Few Russians even trust him!

In the January 2017 report by top USA intelligence units, it was clear that Putin tried to get Trump elected. Top Republican senators did not dispute that.

Why did Putin prefer Trump over Clinton?

 

[denmark]

So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

"There’s much talk about state interference in the electoral process but I haven’t seen a single fact to date," Russian Foreign Affairs Ministry Sergey Lavrov said.

"A US assistant secretary of homeland security supervising cybersecurity said unambiguously a few days ago they didn’t have any evidence of Russia’s interference with the last presidential race," he said.

"The situation where no facts have leaked the public sphere over-a-year that the investigation is in progress is simply impossible for the U.S.," Lavrov said. "If there were at least some smoldering, smoke would be seen at once."

"I think they’ve cornered themselves by declarations about precise data on Russian meddling and now they are trying to at least some retroactive justifications but still they are floundering," he said.
Lavrov says anti-Russian issues to dominate in US until midterms

Now that the weekend is over and it looks like (from other threads) that you are back to work for Putin’s government, why don’t you answer my question:
Why did Putin prefer Trump over Clinton?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

So with the Democrats, and their accomplices in the Media, FBI etc working 24/7 for almost three years, and making false accusations the entire time, why didn't anything stick?

"There’s much talk about state interference in the electoral process but I haven’t seen a single fact to date," Russian Foreign Affairs Ministry Sergey Lavrov said.

"A US assistant secretary of homeland security supervising cybersecurity said unambiguously a few days ago they didn’t have any evidence of Russia’s interference with the last presidential race," he said.

"The situation where no facts have leaked the public sphere over-a-year that the investigation is in progress is simply impossible for the U.S.," Lavrov said. "If there were at least some smoldering, smoke would be seen at once."

"I think they’ve cornered themselves by declarations about precise data on Russian meddling and now they are trying to at least some retroactive justifications but still they are floundering," he said.
Lavrov says anti-Russian issues to dominate in US until midterms

Now that the weekend is over and it looks like (from other threads) that you are back to work for Putin’s government, why don’t you answer my question:
Why did Putin prefer Trump over Clinton?

What is your political position? On Left or Right? It is Left?