P F Tinmore
Diamond Member
- Dec 6, 2009
- 79,774
- 4,414
- 1,815
- Thread starter
- #521
What Islamic about the Native Americans defending themselves from the Spanish?Post of the day!montelatici, et al,
Yes, that region of the world has flip-flopped so many times, it is a wonder that the sands are not stained red by all the blood spilt over it. Over that specific sliver of time, this became a reasonable depiction:
In the 330s BCE, Alexander the Great conquered the area now called Palestine, and the region changed hands numerous times during the wars of the Diadochi, ultimately joining the Seleucid Empire between 219 and 200 BCE. In 116 BCE, a Seleucid civil war resulted in the independence of certain regions including the minor Hasmonean principality in the Judean Mountains. From 110 BCE, the Hasmoneans extended their authority over much of the area, creating a Judean–Samaritan–Idumaean–Ituraean–Galilean alliance.[3] The Judean (Jewish, see Ioudaioi) control over the wider region resulted in it also becoming known as Judaea, a term that had previously only referred to the smaller region of the Judean Mountains. During 73–63 BCE, the Roman Republic extended its influence into the region in the Third Mithridatic War, conquering Judea in 63 BCE, and splitting the former Hasmonean Kingdom into five districts. In 70 CE, Titussacked Jerusalem, resulting in the dispersal of the city's Jews and Christians to Yavne and Pella. In 132 CE, Hadrian joined the province of Judaea with Galilee to form a new province and renamed it Syria Palaestina, and Jerusalem was renamed "Aelia Capitolina". During 259–272, the region fell under the rule of Odaenathus as King of the Palmyrene Empire. Following the victory of Christian emperor Constantine in the Civil Wars of the Tetrarchy (306–324), the Christianization of the Roman Empire began, and in 326, Constantine's mother Saint Helena visited Jerusalem and began the construction of churches and shrines. Palestine became a center of Christianity, attracting numerous monks and religious scholars. The Samaritan Revolts during this period caused their near extinction. SOURCE: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(COMMENT)
Yes, the Kingdom of Jerusalem changed hands so many times in the 12th Century that nearly every major power (except the Arabs of Palestine) could establish some claim historically during the medieval life and times of the Southern Levant.
It does not really matter in contemporary times. What does matter is what the Arab Palestinians want that will be reasonably and practically implemented. Out of their demands, what can actually be accomplished to secure a regional peace; one which is not dependent on the word or pledge of honor by the Arab.
What is reasonable and will keep the Jewish National Home intact and secure from hostile control, attack and annihilation.
Most Respectfully,
RYes, that region of the world has flip-flopped so many times,...
So true, however, it was relatively stable and peaceful during the Ottoman period. When Palestine was carved out after WWI, all of the people who lived there became Palestinian citizens. There is no evidence that that amicable relationship would not continue.
Then Britain landed with the Balfour Declaration in its pocket and fucked everything up big time. There has been nothing but death and destruction since.
Thanks to the Arabs who started all the violence.
How can indigenous people resisting foreign settlers be accused of starting any violence? That's like claiming the native americans started the violence when they attacked the Spanish.
You mean
RACIST ISLAMOMORON LIE OF THE DAY