Do Palestinians Have the Right to Defend Themselves?

[Roudy]

Yawn. All of this happened 65 years ago. Israel is a flourishing state and steaming ahead into the future. The Jewish stste has been reestablished after thousands of years in exile. Palestine never was, and never will be.

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

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What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

You forgot to mention on the Israeli Belligerents side the 100,000's of MERCENARIES Israel have and do use up until today..........Naughty Boy Rocco,look if you cannot bother to elucidate the truth and facts in your posts.....then stop using the term "Most Respectfully" because there is NO RESPECT IN YOUR LYING,ADULTERATED POSTS.

Most Respectfully Steven

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think so.

Palestinian sovereignty is mentioned here and affirmed in subsequent UN resolutions.

Your posts are based on the false premise that the Palestinians do not have sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Palestinian Sovereignty is only acknowledge after 1988. And even today that is a bit questionable.

Central to the idea of sovereignty there is strong implication meaning the possession of absolute authority within a bounded territorial space. Implied is that to be sovereign the nation is not subordinate or dependent on an external government (external interference). It has been 500 years since the Mamelukes were defeated by the Ottomans. It has been for at least that long that Arabs have not ruled as sovereign over any territory in the to which the Mandate of Palestine once applied. To be truly sovereign -- a nation must have the capacity to govern; but in the case of the State of Palestine, that is questionable. Similarly sovereignty can be essentially based on borders; not any capacity on the part of government. Yet in the case of Palestine --- once again, it becomes questionable. It is the when the General Assembly adopts Resolution 58/292. Status of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem (17 May 2004) --- Affirming the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise sovereignty and to achieve independence in their State, Palestine. Depending on your perspective, this could be interpreted that as of May 2004, the State of Palestine was still not sovereign.

If the State of Palestine is (indeed) sovereign --- then what are the critical issues to resolve?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

theliq, et al,

Educate me...

You forgot to mention on the Israeli Belligerents side the 100,000's of MERCENARIES Israel have and do use up until today..........Naughty Boy Rocco,look if you cannot bother to elucidate the truth and facts in your posts.....then stop using the term "Most Respectfully" because there is NO RESPECT IN YOUR LYING,ADULTERATED POSTS.

Most Respectfully Steven

(QUESTION)

Who are these "Israeli Belligerents side the 100,000's of MERCENARIES" (persons who takes part in an armed conflict who is not a national or a party to the conflict and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities by the desire for private gain) of which you speak?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I don't think so.

Palestinian sovereignty is mentioned here and affirmed in subsequent UN resolutions.

Your posts are based on the false premise that the Palestinians do not have sovereignty.

(COMMENT)

Palestinian Sovereignty is only acknowledge after 1988. And even today that is a bit questionable.

Central to the idea of sovereignty there is strong implication meaning the possession of absolute authority within a bounded territorial space. Implied is that to be sovereign the nation is not subordinate or dependent on an external government (external interference). It has been 500 years since the Mamelukes were defeated by the Ottomans. It has been for at least that long that Arabs have not ruled as sovereign over any territory in the to which the Mandate of Palestine once applied. To be truly sovereign -- a nation must have the capacity to govern; but in the case of the State of Palestine, that is questionable. Similarly sovereignty can be essentially based on borders; not any capacity on the part of government. Yet in the case of Palestine --- once again, it becomes questionable. It is the when the General Assembly adopts Resolution 58/292. Status of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem (17 May 2004) --- Affirming the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise sovereignty and to achieve independence in their State, Palestine. Depending on your perspective, this could be interpreted that as of May 2004, the State of Palestine was still not sovereign.

If the State of Palestine is (indeed) sovereign --- then what are the critical issues to resolve?

Most Respectfully,
R

If the State of Palestine is (indeed) sovereign --- then what are the critical issues to resolve?​

Military occupation.

 

[theliq]

theliq, et al,

Educate me...

You forgot to mention on the Israeli Belligerents side the 100,000's of MERCENARIES Israel have and do use up until today..........Naughty Boy Rocco,look if you cannot bother to elucidate the truth and facts in your posts.....then stop using the term "Most Respectfully" because there is NO RESPECT IN YOUR LYING,ADULTERATED POSTS.

Most Respectfully Steven

(QUESTION)

Who are these "Israeli Belligerents side the 100,000's of MERCENARIES" (persons who takes part in an armed conflict who is not a national or a party to the conflict and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities by the desire for private gain) of which you speak?

Most Respectfully,
R

I like your "EUPHEMISM''........PRIVATE GAIN......what you really mean is MURDER for MONEY,that's their only motivation.........Now being as you,love to Unrespectfully like to post reams of information,why don't YOU check and let us all know......it is well documented...With Respect..S

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

OK, let's ask the interrogatives.

Rocco et al.

Not at all.

The people (Arabs 95% of the population in the case of Palestine at the time) in territories were accorded provisional sovereignty as of the date of the Mandate(s) given that the main purpose of the Mandate(s) was:

"for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations"

Tutelage by the Mandatory, as stated in the Covenant, is not sovereignty.

ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League.

The character of the mandate must differ according to the stage of the development of the people, the geographical situation of the territory, its economic conditions and other similar circumstances.

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory."

And the disclaimer at the end sums it up

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development


The arab Palestinians have still not reached that stage of development as shown by their inability to form a state.

No, all the Ottoman possessions were subject to Class A Mandates, including Palestine. The other states that did not get classified with Class A status were identified in subsequent paragraphs of Article 22.

(COMMENT)

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.​

"Certain communities" --- it did not just say "communities" and it did not say "all communities." It said certain communities.
When did the Arab Palestinians ever demonstrate that they "able to stand alone." They could not even help in the maintenance of peace and security , or assist on development of Friendly relations and Co-operation among States. For crying out loud, the Fedayeen tried to assassinate the King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (not just once - but twice).

The same people that wrote the Article 22 of the Covenant --- also agreed on the San Remo where it was decided to establish a Jewish National Home. But that was too much for the Arabs. They wanted as much as they could take by force.

No, the world --- not even the other Arab Counties, owes the Arab Palestinian anything. With every one around them against the Jewish People, surrounded and outnumbered, the Jews made the most stable and productive country in the reason. No one needs to hand the Palestinians a country. When they become mature enough, like the Jew people, they will come togather and build a nation.

Most Respectfully,
R[/QUOTE]


There is no question that Palestine was one of the Class A Mandates.

"the Class A mandates were moved into independence. Most of these were in the former Ottoman Empire, such as Trans-Jordan, Syria, Palestine, and Lebanon. Wilson's charge to the peace conference in the plenary session of 14 February 1919 was only partially observed; but his expectations on mandates were more fulfilled than in most other areas of the Fourteen Points. Wilson told the conference members that they were "done with annexation of helpless peoples," and henceforth nations would consider it their responsibility to protect and promote the interests of people under their tutelage before their own interests. It would remain for the United Nations, not the League of Nations, to carry out this promise."

Read more: League of nations mandates - Mandates and Trusteeships

"Too much for the Arabs"? It would be too much for any people to accept European colonization without resisting. Do you believe that the Christians and Muslims having lived in Palestine for thousands of years should have just accepted the settlement of Europeans in Palestine?[/QUOTE]



Yes because the Jews had shown the ability to form a government and stand on their own. The arab muslims were not counted in those numbers, and as the evidence shows they were right almost 100 years ago.
It was the arab muslims that were the colonists Abdul and do you think that the Jews who had lived in Palestine for 4,500 years should accept even more abuse, mass murders and slavery from illegal arab muslim immigrants

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

View attachment 40132
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What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

I notice that you slime the source without addressing the content.

From another source.:

U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 neither legally partitioned Palestine nor conferred upon the Zionist leadership any legal authority to unilaterally declare the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. It merely recommended that the UNSCOP partition plan be accepted and implemented by the concerned parties. Naturally, to have any weight of law, the plan, like any contract, would have to have been formally agreed upon by both parties, which it was not. Nor could the General Assembly have legally partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority for the creation of Israel to the Zionist leadership, as it simply had no such authority to confer. When the Security Council took up the matter referred to it by the General Assembly, it could come to no consensus on how to proceed with implementing the partition plan. It being apparent that the plan could not be implemented by peaceful means, the suggestion that it be implemented by force was rejected by members of the Security Council. The simple fact of the matter is that the plan was never implemented. Numerous delegates from member states, including the U.S., arrived at the conclusion that the plan was impracticable, and, furthermore, that the Security Council had no authority to implement such a plan except by mutual consent by concerned parties, which was absent in this case.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Jeremy R. Hammond​

My previous link http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf laid out the legalities of the time. Those who favored the plan wanted to push the legalities aside like Israel continues to do because of being on the wrong side of the law.

And you forget that in 1923 the LoN entered into International law the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE that stated the land was for the national home of the Jews. So all the UN should have done was rubber stamped Israel's declaration of independence and then started bombing the arab nations that invaded in 1948. Then we would not have the problems we have today as the arab muslims would know the world was turned against them.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

View attachment 40132
​

What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

I notice that you slime the source without addressing the content.

From another source.:

U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 neither legally partitioned Palestine nor conferred upon the Zionist leadership any legal authority to unilaterally declare the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. It merely recommended that the UNSCOP partition plan be accepted and implemented by the concerned parties. Naturally, to have any weight of law, the plan, like any contract, would have to have been formally agreed upon by both parties, which it was not. Nor could the General Assembly have legally partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority for the creation of Israel to the Zionist leadership, as it simply had no such authority to confer. When the Security Council took up the matter referred to it by the General Assembly, it could come to no consensus on how to proceed with implementing the partition plan. It being apparent that the plan could not be implemented by peaceful means, the suggestion that it be implemented by force was rejected by members of the Security Council. The simple fact of the matter is that the plan was never implemented. Numerous delegates from member states, including the U.S., arrived at the conclusion that the plan was impracticable, and, furthermore, that the Security Council had no authority to implement such a plan except by mutual consent by concerned parties, which was absent in this case.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Jeremy R. Hammond​

My previous link http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf laid out the legalities of the time. Those who favored the plan wanted to push the legalities aside like Israel continues to do because of being on the wrong side of the law.

P F Tinmore, et al,

It is just a discussion paper. I really haven't slimed the source yet; but not that you brought it up --- see the observation below.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

View attachment 40132
​

What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

I notice that you slime the source without addressing the content.

From another source.:

U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 neither legally partitioned Palestine nor conferred upon the Zionist leadership any legal authority to unilaterally declare the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. It merely recommended that the UNSCOP partition plan be accepted and implemented by the concerned parties. Naturally, to have any weight of law, the plan, like any contract, would have to have been formally agreed upon by both parties, which it was not. Nor could the General Assembly have legally partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority for the creation of Israel to the Zionist leadership, as it simply had no such authority to confer. When the Security Council took up the matter referred to it by the General Assembly, it could come to no consensus on how to proceed with implementing the partition plan. It being apparent that the plan could not be implemented by peaceful means, the suggestion that it be implemented by force was rejected by members of the Security Council. The simple fact of the matter is that the plan was never implemented. Numerous delegates from member states, including the U.S., arrived at the conclusion that the plan was impracticable, and, furthermore, that the Security Council had no authority to implement such a plan except by mutual consent by concerned parties, which was absent in this case.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Jeremy R. Hammond​

My previous link http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf laid out the legalities of the time. Those who favored the plan wanted to push the legalities aside like Israel continues to do because of being on the wrong side of the law.

(OBSERVATION)

Always consider the source. (False appeal to authority. GRANTED --- Hammond is an authority on Prison chow, but not much else.)

Jeremy Hammond is a political activist with no experience in politics, diplomacy or senior executive service. And che is an ex-con and a hacker from Chicago. He was convicted and sentenced in November 2013 to 10 years in US Federal Prison for computer hacking.​

(COMMENT)

Sub-point: The Working Paper A/AC.14.32 is Sub-committee #2 with 7 out of 8 members from Islamic States.

• Afghanistan: Afghanistan is one of the countries where economic instability has given birth to political instability. As there is no stable economic infrastructure, the country’s democratic structure has shaky foundations. In Afghanistan insecurity has been influencing the economic life to a large extent. Both national and international businessmen are not readily willing to invest in all the sectors and they do not see positive prospects of their businesses.
• Colombia: A contradictory feature of Colombia's long democratic tradition is its high level of political violence (six interparty wars in the nineteenth century and two in the twentieth century). An estimated 100,000 Colombians died in the War of a Thousand Days (1899-1902), and 200,000 died in the more recent period of interparty civil war called la violencia, which lasted from 1948 to 1966. According to Colombian Ministry of National Defense statistics, an additional 70,000 people had died in other political violence, mainly guerrilla insurgencies, by August 1984. This violence included left-wing insurgency and terrorism, right-wing paramilitary activity, and narcoterrorism.
• Egypt: There is a popular demand for improvement in people’s living conditions, but the economic realities are not able to meet these demands and expectations. The political situation in Egypt remains fragile and protests keep occurring throughout the country, as a response to the difficult economic situation.
• Iraq: The current Iraqi government in front of an enormous challenge is the creation of an inclusive political system "contributes to legitimize the state. It is unlikely to realize the economic potential in Iraq as a result of the dominance of violence and political instability.
• Lebanon: Just like the critical security situation in Lebanon, which witnessed a series of terrorist bombings, the economic situation — in decline for over three years now — awaits a positive political shock to be created by the announcement of the formation of the government. Its economic recovery is based some what over the reduced influence of Hezbollah in the South and against ISIS.
• Pakistan: Is trying to build confidence in the people by impressing upon them that the path of political and economic stability despite a decade-long role of Pakistan as the frontline state in international war on terror.
• Saudi Arabia: The most stable of the eight members; both economically and politically.
• Syria: In total chaos. May not survive with any reasonable stability.
• Yemen: In total chaos - failed state. Government is likely to fall.

The Arab Palestinian thinks that they have some special understanding; some intuitive insight that is unique to them; pertaining to them. (Which is generally dissimilar to every other Arab population and culture on the planet.) They are simply just the an inferior social order with in the greater culture that has demonstrated its fundamental nature in the past through a continuous history of aggressive action and behaviors made by their respective armies, cults and radical constituents. For nearly seven decades of the amplified negative attitude that they may use any all means to address their grievance has demonstrated just how little they are enlightened and woefully underdeveloped they actually are.

The Arab Palestinian see themselves as holding the exclusive right to self-determination; "the legitimacy of struggle by the Palestinian people under colonial rules (Mandate System) to exercise their rights to self-determination and independence; while at the same time excluding the special conditions recognized by the Allied Powers in the preservation of the culture and society of the Jewish persuasion. The Arab Palestinian believe that they have some unearned exclusive right over the territorial sovereignty for which they did not expend one drop of energy to earn, improve and expand in terms of development. The Arab Palestinian have been unable to organize themselves into a productive nation building culture.

Most Respectfully,
R

Still avoiding the content, I see.

And you forget that in 1923 the LoN entered into International law the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE that stated the land was for the national home of the Jews. So all the UN should have done was rubber stamped Israel's declaration of independence and then started bombing the arab nations that invaded in 1948. Then we would not have the problems we have today as the arab muslims would know the world was turned against them.



What content as there is no content just your interpretation of the facts based on your islamomoron POV. If the source is suspect then your POV is suspect making you as dishonest as the source.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

View attachment 40132
​

What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

I notice that you slime the source without addressing the content.

From another source.:

U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 neither legally partitioned Palestine nor conferred upon the Zionist leadership any legal authority to unilaterally declare the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. It merely recommended that the UNSCOP partition plan be accepted and implemented by the concerned parties. Naturally, to have any weight of law, the plan, like any contract, would have to have been formally agreed upon by both parties, which it was not. Nor could the General Assembly have legally partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority for the creation of Israel to the Zionist leadership, as it simply had no such authority to confer. When the Security Council took up the matter referred to it by the General Assembly, it could come to no consensus on how to proceed with implementing the partition plan. It being apparent that the plan could not be implemented by peaceful means, the suggestion that it be implemented by force was rejected by members of the Security Council. The simple fact of the matter is that the plan was never implemented. Numerous delegates from member states, including the U.S., arrived at the conclusion that the plan was impracticable, and, furthermore, that the Security Council had no authority to implement such a plan except by mutual consent by concerned parties, which was absent in this case.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Jeremy R. Hammond​

My previous link http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf laid out the legalities of the time. Those who favored the plan wanted to push the legalities aside like Israel continues to do because of being on the wrong side of the law.

P F Tinmore, et al,

It is just a discussion paper. I really haven't slimed the source yet; but not that you brought it up --- see the observation below.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Of course the discussion paper (not a resolution, not a directive and not an advisory opinion) is going to sound favorable to the Arab Palestinians. For crying out loud, the members of Sub-Committee 2 were from: Afghanistan, Colombia, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.

BTW, the Palestinian's sovereignty over their land is mentioned many times here:
http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf

(COMMENT)

Of the membership to Sub-Committee 2 (which wrote A/AC.14.32), 7 out of 8 where countries that were predominately Muslim and three-quarters contributed forces for the Arab Invasion, for the May 1948 Invasion - .

View attachment 40132
​

What do you think they would say.

"C. Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." UN Palestine Commission --- First Special Report to the Security Council

Most Respectfully,
R

I notice that you slime the source without addressing the content.

From another source.:

U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 neither legally partitioned Palestine nor conferred upon the Zionist leadership any legal authority to unilaterally declare the existence of the Jewish state of Israel. It merely recommended that the UNSCOP partition plan be accepted and implemented by the concerned parties. Naturally, to have any weight of law, the plan, like any contract, would have to have been formally agreed upon by both parties, which it was not. Nor could the General Assembly have legally partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority for the creation of Israel to the Zionist leadership, as it simply had no such authority to confer. When the Security Council took up the matter referred to it by the General Assembly, it could come to no consensus on how to proceed with implementing the partition plan. It being apparent that the plan could not be implemented by peaceful means, the suggestion that it be implemented by force was rejected by members of the Security Council. The simple fact of the matter is that the plan was never implemented. Numerous delegates from member states, including the U.S., arrived at the conclusion that the plan was impracticable, and, furthermore, that the Security Council had no authority to implement such a plan except by mutual consent by concerned parties, which was absent in this case.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Jeremy R. Hammond​

My previous link http://unispal.un.org/pdfs/AAC1432.pdf laid out the legalities of the time. Those who favored the plan wanted to push the legalities aside like Israel continues to do because of being on the wrong side of the law.

(OBSERVATION)

Always consider the source. (False appeal to authority. GRANTED --- Hammond is an authority on Prison chow, but not much else.)

Jeremy Hammond is a political activist with no experience in politics, diplomacy or senior executive service. And che is an ex-con and a hacker from Chicago. He was convicted and sentenced in November 2013 to 10 years in US Federal Prison for computer hacking.​

(COMMENT)

Sub-point: The Working Paper A/AC.14.32 is Sub-committee #2 with 7 out of 8 members from Islamic States.

• Afghanistan: Afghanistan is one of the countries where economic instability has given birth to political instability. As there is no stable economic infrastructure, the country’s democratic structure has shaky foundations. In Afghanistan insecurity has been influencing the economic life to a large extent. Both national and international businessmen are not readily willing to invest in all the sectors and they do not see positive prospects of their businesses.
• Colombia: A contradictory feature of Colombia's long democratic tradition is its high level of political violence (six interparty wars in the nineteenth century and two in the twentieth century). An estimated 100,000 Colombians died in the War of a Thousand Days (1899-1902), and 200,000 died in the more recent period of interparty civil war called la violencia, which lasted from 1948 to 1966. According to Colombian Ministry of National Defense statistics, an additional 70,000 people had died in other political violence, mainly guerrilla insurgencies, by August 1984. This violence included left-wing insurgency and terrorism, right-wing paramilitary activity, and narcoterrorism.
• Egypt: There is a popular demand for improvement in people’s living conditions, but the economic realities are not able to meet these demands and expectations. The political situation in Egypt remains fragile and protests keep occurring throughout the country, as a response to the difficult economic situation.
• Iraq: The current Iraqi government in front of an enormous challenge is the creation of an inclusive political system "contributes to legitimize the state. It is unlikely to realize the economic potential in Iraq as a result of the dominance of violence and political instability.
• Lebanon: Just like the critical security situation in Lebanon, which witnessed a series of terrorist bombings, the economic situation — in decline for over three years now — awaits a positive political shock to be created by the announcement of the formation of the government. Its economic recovery is based some what over the reduced influence of Hezbollah in the South and against ISIS.
• Pakistan: Is trying to build confidence in the people by impressing upon them that the path of political and economic stability despite a decade-long role of Pakistan as the frontline state in international war on terror.
• Saudi Arabia: The most stable of the eight members; both economically and politically.
• Syria: In total chaos. May not survive with any reasonable stability.
• Yemen: In total chaos - failed state. Government is likely to fall.

The Arab Palestinian thinks that they have some special understanding; some intuitive insight that is unique to them; pertaining to them. (Which is generally dissimilar to every other Arab population and culture on the planet.) They are simply just the an inferior social order with in the greater culture that has demonstrated its fundamental nature in the past through a continuous history of aggressive action and behaviors made by their respective armies, cults and radical constituents. For nearly seven decades of the amplified negative attitude that they may use any all means to address their grievance has demonstrated just how little they are enlightened and woefully underdeveloped they actually are.

The Arab Palestinian see themselves as holding the exclusive right to self-determination; "the legitimacy of struggle by the Palestinian people under colonial rules (Mandate System) to exercise their rights to self-determination and independence; while at the same time excluding the special conditions recognized by the Allied Powers in the preservation of the culture and society of the Jewish persuasion. The Arab Palestinian believe that they have some unearned exclusive right over the territorial sovereignty for which they did not expend one drop of energy to earn, improve and expand in terms of development. The Arab Palestinian have been unable to organize themselves into a productive nation building culture.

Most Respectfully,
R

Still avoiding the content, I see.

And you forget that in 1923 the LoN entered into International law the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE that stated the land was for the national home of the Jews. So all the UN should have done was rubber stamped Israel's declaration of independence and then started bombing the arab nations that invaded in 1948. Then we would not have the problems we have today as the arab muslims would know the world was turned against them.



What content as there is no content just your interpretation of the facts based on your islamomoron POV. If the source is suspect then your POV is suspect making you as dishonest as the source.

 

[Challenger]

Allow me.

Israel s Transfer Committee Ethnic Cleansing and an enormous process of destruction


Why Israel is Wrong The Case Against Israel s System of Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing

Talk about scraping the barrel, you are actually underneath it with these links

The HyperTexts is an on-line poetry journal with a simple goal: to showcase the best poetry, literary prose and art available to us. We are not a "formal" journal or a "free verse" journal; we simply publish the best poetry we can find. We ask our poets to provide us with their career-defining work (that is, career-defining in their opinion, not someone else's); thus, most of our poems have been published elsewhere. While other poetry journals seem to quail at the thought of their poems having been read elsewhere, we sincerely doubt that anyone has ever been harmed by reading good poems more than once.



from your links so showing they are not what was asked for

The site also includes texts sourced about the Nakba including works and quotes by prominent Jewish intellectuals.

Jewish Intellectuals Who Have Opposed Zionism and or Israeli Racism Inustices Apartheid and or Ethnic Cleansing

Unless you can disprove the information provided it's a valid "one stop shop" that saves me the time and effort of digging out the original information. So yes it does show what was asked for; prove otherwise.

So, no OFFICIAL sites proving that actual evictions and ethnic cleansing occurred. Just bullshit opinions, IslamoNazi sites, speculations, and false propaganda.

Like I thought.

You got nothin'.

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

 

[Challenger]

Is that all you got. Try again moron. Refugees as a result of the Arabs attacking Israel, don't count and neither does an "opinion" of Le Monde De Fifi De Poopo magazine.

Your claim, the European Jews "colonized" the land and then "evicted" the Arabs. Where's your proof, do you have a link from an official document? Or is it just this speculative garbaggio?

Allow me.

Israel s Transfer Committee Ethnic Cleansing and an enormous process of destruction


Why Israel is Wrong The Case Against Israel s System of Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing

IslamoNazi sources? Thanks, I was running out of toilet paper.

Nah, this is toilet paper Amin Al Husseini Nazi Father of Jihad Al Qaeda Arafat Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

Why because it tells the truth about the Palestinian muslims, and this goes against your indoctrination doesn't it...

Nope. I just recognise BS when I see it.

 

[danielpalos]

yes, some on the left believe they should start recruiting honest Injeun contingents, and consider "harassing a Judge" for their Cause.

 

[Phoenall]

Talk about scraping the barrel, you are actually underneath it with these links

The HyperTexts is an on-line poetry journal with a simple goal: to showcase the best poetry, literary prose and art available to us. We are not a "formal" journal or a "free verse" journal; we simply publish the best poetry we can find. We ask our poets to provide us with their career-defining work (that is, career-defining in their opinion, not someone else's); thus, most of our poems have been published elsewhere. While other poetry journals seem to quail at the thought of their poems having been read elsewhere, we sincerely doubt that anyone has ever been harmed by reading good poems more than once.



from your links so showing they are not what was asked for

The site also includes texts sourced about the Nakba including works and quotes by prominent Jewish intellectuals.

Jewish Intellectuals Who Have Opposed Zionism and or Israeli Racism Inustices Apartheid and or Ethnic Cleansing

Unless you can disprove the information provided it's a valid "one stop shop" that saves me the time and effort of digging out the original information. So yes it does show what was asked for; prove otherwise.

So, no OFFICIAL sites proving that actual evictions and ethnic cleansing occurred. Just bullshit opinions, IslamoNazi sites, speculations, and false propaganda.

Like I thought.

You got nothin'.

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

never yet came across a terrorist arse licker or a leftist moron that could utter more than 2 words truthfully.

 

[Phoenall]

Is that all you got. Try again moron. Refugees as a result of the Arabs attacking Israel, don't count and neither does an "opinion" of Le Monde De Fifi De Poopo magazine.

Your claim, the European Jews "colonized" the land and then "evicted" the Arabs. Where's your proof, do you have a link from an official document? Or is it just this speculative garbaggio?

Allow me.

Israel s Transfer Committee Ethnic Cleansing and an enormous process of destruction


Why Israel is Wrong The Case Against Israel s System of Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing

IslamoNazi sources? Thanks, I was running out of toilet paper.

Nah, this is toilet paper Amin Al Husseini Nazi Father of Jihad Al Qaeda Arafat Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood - Tell The Children The Truth - Homepage

Why because it tells the truth about the Palestinian muslims, and this goes against your indoctrination doesn't it...

Nope. I just recognise BS when I see it.

You cant do as you are a leftist moron, and your ideology is based on B.S.

 

[montelatici]

The site also includes texts sourced about the Nakba including works and quotes by prominent Jewish intellectuals.

Jewish Intellectuals Who Have Opposed Zionism and or Israeli Racism Inustices Apartheid and or Ethnic Cleansing

Unless you can disprove the information provided it's a valid "one stop shop" that saves me the time and effort of digging out the original information. So yes it does show what was asked for; prove otherwise.

So, no OFFICIAL sites proving that actual evictions and ethnic cleansing occurred. Just bullshit opinions, IslamoNazi sites, speculations, and false propaganda.

Like I thought.

You got nothin'.

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

never yet came across a terrorist arse licker or a leftist moron that could utter more than 2 words truthfully.

Now that's funny. You are a pathological liar. I haven't see you post one fact on this site. All you do is repeat Zionist propaganda.

 

[Phoenall]

So, no OFFICIAL sites proving that actual evictions and ethnic cleansing occurred. Just bullshit opinions, IslamoNazi sites, speculations, and false propaganda.

Like I thought.

You got nothin'.

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

never yet came across a terrorist arse licker or a leftist moron that could utter more than 2 words truthfully.

Now that's funny. You are a pathological liar. I haven't see you post one fact on this site. All you do is repeat Zionist propaganda.

So all your links are Zionist propaganda are they Abdul, because I have used thos to prove you wrong and to be a RACIST LIAR.

Want to post table 1 again that tells the truth about land ownership?

 

[Roudy]

Talk about scraping the barrel, you are actually underneath it with these links

The HyperTexts is an on-line poetry journal with a simple goal: to showcase the best poetry, literary prose and art available to us. We are not a "formal" journal or a "free verse" journal; we simply publish the best poetry we can find. We ask our poets to provide us with their career-defining work (that is, career-defining in their opinion, not someone else's); thus, most of our poems have been published elsewhere. While other poetry journals seem to quail at the thought of their poems having been read elsewhere, we sincerely doubt that anyone has ever been harmed by reading good poems more than once.



from your links so showing they are not what was asked for

The site also includes texts sourced about the Nakba including works and quotes by prominent Jewish intellectuals.

Jewish Intellectuals Who Have Opposed Zionism and or Israeli Racism Inustices Apartheid and or Ethnic Cleansing

Unless you can disprove the information provided it's a valid "one stop shop" that saves me the time and effort of digging out the original information. So yes it does show what was asked for; prove otherwise.

So, no OFFICIAL sites proving that actual evictions and ethnic cleansing occurred. Just bullshit opinions, IslamoNazi sites, speculations, and false propaganda.

Like I thought.

You got nothin'.

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

An opinion is not fact, moron. And that site is very low on facts.

 

[montelatici]

What do you classify as an "official" site?

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

never yet came across a terrorist arse licker or a leftist moron that could utter more than 2 words truthfully.

Now that's funny. You are a pathological liar. I haven't see you post one fact on this site. All you do is repeat Zionist propaganda.

So all your links are Zionist propaganda are they Abdul, because I have used thos to prove you wrong and to be a RACIST LIAR.

Want to post table 1 again that tells the truth about land ownership?

99% of my links are to UN archives, academic archives or similar and represent fact. All you have proven is that you are a poor propagandist and even less capable liar.

 

[Roudy]

A site that doesn't publish opinion pieces by terrorist ass kissers and leftist morons.

So in other words any site you don't agree with, or tells the truth, figures.

never yet came across a terrorist arse licker or a leftist moron that could utter more than 2 words truthfully.

Now that's funny. You are a pathological liar. I haven't see you post one fact on this site. All you do is repeat Zionist propaganda.

So all your links are Zionist propaganda are they Abdul, because I have used thos to prove you wrong and to be a RACIST LIAR.

Want to post table 1 again that tells the truth about land ownership?

99% of my links are to UN archives, academic archives or similar and represent fact. All you have proven is that you are a poor propagandist and even less capable liar.

Links which basically prove you wrong.