Do liberals want the whole world to stop the coal industry, or just the US?

[miketx]

Like always, your claims and squiggly lines prove nothing

Well, I guess they mean nothing to you and that is to bad since they clearly support your position on this topic that the whole man made global warming claim is bullshit. They clearly show that for most of the past 10,000 years, the earth has been a good bit warmer than it is now.

Again, as I have proven many times, anyone, ANYONE, can make a graph like that. It means NOTHING, as do your perpetual claims of doom.

You are missing the whole point guy....I am not making any claims of doom...I believe the whole manmade global warming claim is a big steaming pile of bullshit and those graphs which to you are nothing but squiggly lines actually prove that the left's manmade global warming claims are bullshit.

No offense, but I don't think it would hurt you to much to take just a bit of time and try to at least educate yourself enough to be able to tell which people are on your side and which aren't. Clearly you aren't there because you won't find anyone more skeptical of the global warming claims coming from climate science than me.

Well then my apologies, but surely you must realize that anyone can make a graph with minimal Photoshop skills and post it on the internet, right? See here you go....

 

[rightwinger]

Does anyone know?

Let's hear from the left. The coal industry. Should it be completely shut down?

Only here or everywhere?

Please, explain.

The coal industry will never be completely shut down- coal is necessary for lots of things- just not for power production.

Coal is just much more expensive than natural gas, and much dirtier than natural gas or alternatives.

Will the environment of the entire world be better once we stop burning dirty coal?

Sure- and that is why China is spending so much money to convert from coal to natural gas, and is a leader in both wind and solar technology.

We should continue our conversion from coal to natural gas, and use coal for the industries like steel that we need coal for.

That is the direction that eventually the whole world will go- it will be harder for poor countries like India to make the conversion- but China moving that direction.

Actually, China has been starting new coal fired plants at the rate of about 2 per week. Your belief that china is cutting back on coal is based on a statement made by the government...and long history has shown that what government says and what it does are two very different things. The report that they have abandoned over 100 coal projects is meaningless in the face of two new coal projects beginning every week.

China keeps building coal plants despite new overcapacity policy - Energydesk

You pressure China on human rights violation and get them to put filters on their plants like we have done.

Even China realizes they are killing themselves

Only Republicans don't care

 

[Theowl32]

Does anyone know?

Let's hear from the left. The coal industry. Should it be completely shut down?

Only here or everywhere?

Please, explain.

The coal industry will never be completely shut down- coal is necessary for lots of things- just not for power production.

Coal is just much more expensive than natural gas, and much dirtier than natural gas or alternatives.

Will the environment of the entire world be better once we stop burning dirty coal?

Sure- and that is why China is spending so much money to convert from coal to natural gas, and is a leader in both wind and solar technology.

We should continue our conversion from coal to natural gas, and use coal for the industries like steel that we need coal for.

That is the direction that eventually the whole world will go- it will be harder for poor countries like India to make the conversion- but China moving that direction.

Actually, China has been starting new coal fired plants at the rate of about 2 per week. Your belief that china is cutting back on coal is based on a statement made by the government...and long history has shown that what government says and what it does are two very different things. The report that they have abandoned over 100 coal projects is meaningless in the face of two new coal projects beginning every week.

China keeps building coal plants despite new overcapacity policy - Energydesk

You pressure China on human rights violation and get them to put filters on their plants like we have done.

With your best guess, tell us why....

The world leftists don't put mass pressure on China to do that?

Tell us why the world leaders allow China to not abide by any of the climate movements?

Why is it only this country that the world seems to put pressure on?

Give us your best guesses why that is, considering it is those same entities that claim we are doomed if we don't make changes.

 

[rightwinger]

Does anyone know?

Let's hear from the left. The coal industry. Should it be completely shut down?

Only here or everywhere?

Please, explain.

The coal industry will never be completely shut down- coal is necessary for lots of things- just not for power production.

Coal is just much more expensive than natural gas, and much dirtier than natural gas or alternatives.

Will the environment of the entire world be better once we stop burning dirty coal?

Sure- and that is why China is spending so much money to convert from coal to natural gas, and is a leader in both wind and solar technology.

We should continue our conversion from coal to natural gas, and use coal for the industries like steel that we need coal for.

That is the direction that eventually the whole world will go- it will be harder for poor countries like India to make the conversion- but China moving that direction.

Actually, China has been starting new coal fired plants at the rate of about 2 per week. Your belief that china is cutting back on coal is based on a statement made by the government...and long history has shown that what government says and what it does are two very different things. The report that they have abandoned over 100 coal projects is meaningless in the face of two new coal projects beginning every week.

China keeps building coal plants despite new overcapacity policy - Energydesk

You pressure China on human rights violation and get them to put filters on their plants like we have done.

With your best guess, tell us why....

The world leftists don't put mass pressure on China to do that?

Tell us why the world leaders allow China to not abide by any of the climate movements?

Why is it only this country that the world seems to put pressure on?

Give us your best guesses why that is, considering it is those same entities that claim we are doomed if we don't make changes.

Only Republicans don't want to reduce emissions

 

[peach174]

Does anyone know?

Let's hear from the left. The coal industry. Should it be completely shut down?

Only here or everywhere?

Please, explain.

The coal industry will never be completely shut down- coal is necessary for lots of things- just not for power production.

Coal is just much more expensive than natural gas, and much dirtier than natural gas or alternatives.

Will the environment of the entire world be better once we stop burning dirty coal?

Sure- and that is why China is spending so much money to convert from coal to natural gas, and is a leader in both wind and solar technology.

We should continue our conversion from coal to natural gas, and use coal for the industries like steel that we need coal for.

That is the direction that eventually the whole world will go- it will be harder for poor countries like India to make the conversion- but China moving that direction.

Actually, China has been starting new coal fired plants at the rate of about 2 per week. Your belief that china is cutting back on coal is based on a statement made by the government...and long history has shown that what government says and what it does are two very different things. The report that they have abandoned over 100 coal projects is meaningless in the face of two new coal projects beginning every week.

China keeps building coal plants despite new overcapacity policy - Energydesk

You pressure China on human rights violation and get them to put filters on their plants like we have done.

With your best guess, tell us why....

The world leftists don't put mass pressure on China to do that?

Tell us why the world leaders allow China to not abide by any of the climate movements?

Why is it only this country that the world seems to put pressure on?

Give us your best guesses why that is, considering it is those same entities that claim we are doomed if we don't make changes.

It's biased left wing politics ,always has been since the 1970's.
The goal has always been to shut down cheap fossil fuels.
If they were serious, more influences would have been done in cheaper alternate fuels, not expensive solar and wind.

 

[SSDD]

It's a conspiracy....a conspiracy I say

Don't trust those scientists Big oil has our best interests at heart

Besides..... President Trump says it is a scam. We all know he wouldn't lie to us

Typical liberal warmer...when faced with the fact that you can't provide any actual evidence to support your belief, you jump right into logical fallacy.

If it is not a scam, then there should be at least some observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW claim over natural variability. Since there is none, not the first shred, what else could you call it but a scam? Certainly not science because science is all about observation, measurement, and quantification..

 

[SSDD]

Well then my apologies, but surely you must realize that anyone can make a graph with minimal Photoshop skills and post it on the internet, right? See here you go....

Because it can be done, does not mean that every graph you see is automatically fake and means nothing. That is were educating yourself enough to do a bit of research into what the graph claims comes in.

Money can be counterfeited..does that mean that you don't carry cash because it might be real?
Anyone could print a utility bill that looks like yours...does that mean you don't pay your bills because the bill you receive might not be the real thing?

 

[SSDD]

Only Republicans don't want to reduce emissions

Still waiting for a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that proves that CO2 emissions are a problem.

Now I am all for cleaning up our act...imposing draconian fines and prison upon polluters, but CO2 is not pollution.

Upon what real evidence do you claim that we need to reduce CO2 emissions?

 

[rightwinger]

It's a conspiracy....a conspiracy I say

Don't trust those scientists Big oil has our best interests at heart

Besides..... President Trump says it is a scam. We all know he wouldn't lie to us

Typical liberal warmer...when faced with the fact that you can't provide any actual evidence to support your belief, you jump right into logical fallacy.

If it is not a scam, then there should be at least some observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW claim over natural variability. Since there is none, not the first shred, what else could you call it but a scam? Certainly not science because science is all about observation, measurement, and quantification..

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

 

[SSDD]

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

More logical fallacy.

And yet, you can't find a single shred of it. The fact is that if any such evidence existed, it would be impossible to escape...it would be headlines in every paper every day....it would be all over the news and on every other page of every magazine...it would be up on billboards, and on fliers stuck to your windshield....it would be inescapable and yet, neither you, nor all of climate science can come up with a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.

Now, being one who is pro science, and expects great things from science, I have to wonder why the most basic sort of data to support a claim which is being used to justify trillions of dollars in taxes, and laying waste to entire industries is missing. Interesting that you seem to be so thoroughly convinced by absolutely nothing.

It is true that you can fool some of the people all the time...it is pretty clear that you are one of those since you can't seem to find a single piece of real evidence to support what you believe.

 

[skookerasbil]

Does anyone know?

Let's hear from the left. The coal industry. Should it be completely shut down?

Only here or everywhere?

Please, explain.

The coal industry will never be completely shut down- coal is necessary for lots of things- just not for power production.

Coal is just much more expensive than natural gas, and much dirtier than natural gas or alternatives.

Will the environment of the entire world be better once we stop burning dirty coal?

Sure- and that is why China is spending so much money to convert from coal to natural gas, and is a leader in both wind and solar technology.

We should continue our conversion from coal to natural gas, and use coal for the industries like steel that we need coal for.

That is the direction that eventually the whole world will go- it will be harder for poor countries like India to make the conversion- but China moving that direction.

Actually, China has been starting new coal fired plants at the rate of about 2 per week. Your belief that china is cutting back on coal is based on a statement made by the government...and long history has shown that what government says and what it does are two very different things. The report that they have abandoned over 100 coal projects is meaningless in the face of two new coal projects beginning every week.

China keeps building coal plants despite new overcapacity policy - Energydesk

You pressure China on human rights violation and get them to put filters on their plants like we have done.

Even China realizes they are killing themselves

Only Republicans don't care

The Captain of fake news..............

You fucking idiot.

China is increasing its coal production by 50% by 2040. How stoopid do you look? And I always get fucking giddy about pointing it out.

http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/eia-forecast-fossil-fuels-remain-dominant-through-2040/



Only suckers fall for fake news think news like THIS >> 15.5% Drop in China Coal Production Shows Transition Gaining Speed - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis........matters.......stoopid morons. When you are producing billions of tons of coal annually and cut it by 15% you are still producing billions of tons of coal annually. duh

 

[skookerasbil]

WHO'S NOT WINNING?

 

[rightwinger]

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

More logical fallacy.

And yet, you can't find a single shred of it. The fact is that if any such evidence existed, it would be impossible to escape...it would be headlines in every paper every day....it would be all over the news and on every other page of every magazine...it would be up on billboards, and on fliers stuck to your windshield....it would be inescapable and yet, neither you, nor all of climate science can come up with a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.

Now, being one who is pro science, and expects great things from science, I have to wonder why the most basic sort of data to support a claim which is being used to justify trillions of dollars in taxes, and laying waste to entire industries is missing. Interesting that you seem to be so thoroughly convinced by absolutely nothing.

It is true that you can fool some of the people all the time...it is pretty clear that you are one of those since you can't seem to find a single piece of real evidence to support what you believe.

Like trying to deal with a truther, birther or creationist

 

[skookerasbil]

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

More logical fallacy.

And yet, you can't find a single shred of it. The fact is that if any such evidence existed, it would be impossible to escape...it would be headlines in every paper every day....it would be all over the news and on every other page of every magazine...it would be up on billboards, and on fliers stuck to your windshield....it would be inescapable and yet, neither you, nor all of climate science can come up with a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.

Now, being one who is pro science, and expects great things from science, I have to wonder why the most basic sort of data to support a claim which is being used to justify trillions of dollars in taxes, and laying waste to entire industries is missing. Interesting that you seem to be so thoroughly convinced by absolutely nothing.

It is true that you can fool some of the people all the time...it is pretty clear that you are one of those since you can't seem to find a single piece of real evidence to support what you believe.

Like trying to deal with a truther, birther or creationist

lol......the bozo's on the left keep throwing out the same punchlines/talking points like this meathead. And.......they....... keep...........losing...........elections!!

Go.......go......s0n!!

 

[SSDD]

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

More logical fallacy.

And yet, you can't find a single shred of it. The fact is that if any such evidence existed, it would be impossible to escape...it would be headlines in every paper every day....it would be all over the news and on every other page of every magazine...it would be up on billboards, and on fliers stuck to your windshield....it would be inescapable and yet, neither you, nor all of climate science can come up with a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.

Now, being one who is pro science, and expects great things from science, I have to wonder why the most basic sort of data to support a claim which is being used to justify trillions of dollars in taxes, and laying waste to entire industries is missing. Interesting that you seem to be so thoroughly convinced by absolutely nothing.

It is true that you can fool some of the people all the time...it is pretty clear that you are one of those since you can't seem to find a single piece of real evidence to support what you believe.

Like trying to deal with a truther, birther or creationist

That is exactly what you are like...I ask for a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability and you can't produce and yet, you continue to believe....why is that?

Thinking people require actual evidence...and when an observable, measurable, quantifiable entity such as the atmosphere is the topic, then it isn't unreasonable...in fact it is necessary to expect some observed, measured, quantified evidence in support of the claims...where is it?

 

[rightwinger]

Enough evidence to convince 96 percent of scientists and all but three countries

Not enough o convince Republicans

More logical fallacy.

And yet, you can't find a single shred of it. The fact is that if any such evidence existed, it would be impossible to escape...it would be headlines in every paper every day....it would be all over the news and on every other page of every magazine...it would be up on billboards, and on fliers stuck to your windshield....it would be inescapable and yet, neither you, nor all of climate science can come up with a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability.

Now, being one who is pro science, and expects great things from science, I have to wonder why the most basic sort of data to support a claim which is being used to justify trillions of dollars in taxes, and laying waste to entire industries is missing. Interesting that you seem to be so thoroughly convinced by absolutely nothing.

It is true that you can fool some of the people all the time...it is pretty clear that you are one of those since you can't seem to find a single piece of real evidence to support what you believe.

Like trying to deal with a truther, birther or creationist

That is exactly what you are like...I ask for a single shred of observed, measured, quantified evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability and you can't produce and yet, you continue to believe....why is that?

Thinking people require actual evidence...and when an observable, measurable, quantifiable entity such as the atmosphere is the topic, then it isn't unreasonable...in fact it is necessary to expect some observed, measured, quantified evidence in support of the claims...where is it?

I don't play denier games with Truthers or Birthers

Why should I play them with you?

 

[WheelieAddict]

Who the hell that isn't mentally challenged thinks coal is the future?

 

[skookerasbil]

Who the hell that isn't mentally challenged thinks coal is the future?

lol.........only people with plates in their heads think renewables is the future........suckers who spend every minute of their life in the deep matrix.

ghey

 

[SSDD]

I don't play denier games with Truthers or Birthers

Providing observed, measured, quantified evidence to support a scientific claim regarding an observable, measurable, quantifiable entity such as the atmosphere is a game? You really are a dupe...aren't you?

Why should I play them with you?

You hold a pseudoscientific belief...you want to demonstrate that it is an actual scientific fact...observed, measured, quantified evidence makes your point...failure to provide evidence only proves that you have been duped by pseudoscience.

 

[Theowl32]

Who the hell that isn't mentally challenged thinks coal is the future?

Glad to see you don't know what the fuck you are talking about like every other pathetic cocksucking liberal like you.

How long have humans been burning coal you pathetic moron?

You know anything about the iron age you piece of shit?

Was not long after humans clawed our way out of the stone age. You fucking moron.

Tell us you fuckwad. How many products made from coal are you going to stop using, now that you know just how dependant on coal we are?

Carbon fiber is used as a reinforcement material in mountain bikes, building construction and tennis rackets. Different types of coal are used in different ways. Steam coal is primarily used in power generation, while coking coal is used mainly in steel production.

Wheelie, you are fucking ignorant hypocritical gasbag. Nothing more. You and the people that actually give you a thumbs up for every stupid hypocritical thing you say.

Fucking loser.