Do any Dems know?

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    Do any of you Dems realize who it was who set aside 2000 acres of Anwar for future exploration for oil and gas?

    Jimmy Carter!
     
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    Carter was unlucky because the North Shore oil started flowing right after Reagan got into office. I say develop alternative energy AND drill everywhere we can.
     
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    I agree, the solutions to our problems are not one or the other. We must do it all, develop alternative energy, Drill for oil here, Build refineries, Build Nuke Plants. When you have a problem you do EVERYTHING that will help. You do not sit around and argue about doing one thing or the other.
     
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    The problem is the disingenuousness surrounding the discussion of energy. We ought to be honest about what is going on here. The left does not want the price of oil to be low. If it is, the impetus to use/develop more expensive alternatives would decline (just as it did in the 1980s and 1990s). The left in Congress have spent the last 25 years careful turning the screws so oil would someday cost so much that we would have to go to alternatives. That day is finally here and they don't want to do anything to screw it up.

    On the right, I think there is a genuine desire to use alternatives just so they can give the finger to the middle-east. So, it's more about energy independence than about "green" alternatives. If oil dropped to $25 a barrel, you'd be hard pressed to find a right winger screwing a solar panel to his rooftop.

    But, the true goal has to be energy independence. The biggest piece of that is transportation, but none of the pieces should be ignored. This is a grand business opportunity to be the technological leader and we shouldn't miss it. If we do it right, we could be the Saudi Arabia of the next 100 years.
     
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    Very well said. Energy independence should be the goal. We should Do everything in a power to achieve this. Drill, alternatives, Nuclear, ETC ETC. not just one or the other but ALL.

    I would love be able to tell the Middle east oil nations we no longer need their oil. I just do not want to see it come at the cost of our economy.
     
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    Agreed, the drilling will delay the inevitable which is our need to end oil dependency. Which will allow time to perfect alternative energy sources.
     
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    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

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    anyone know what converting all our power plants to nuke or coal would do to our oil consumption......
     
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    Do you have the numbers?
     
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    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    Wasn't that farsighted of him?

    Now we'll have that oil for emergenies.
     
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    80% of our electricity is made from Coal and gas. So it stands to reason converting to Nuclear would save a shit load of Oil.
     

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