distortion of science

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    Concerning lies and liars.

    Distorting science while invoking science Climate Progress

    Distorting science while invoking science
    Debating science shouldn’t enable antiscience disinformation
    August 10, 2010
    Guest authors Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway share some research from their recent must-read book “Merchants of Doubt,” which is reviewed here. The book documents how the cast of characters peddling pseudo-science had been stunningly consistent over the years, from secondhand smoke skeptics to “Star Wars” missile defense proponents to modern climate science deniers. Naomi Oreskes is a professor of history of science and provost of Sixth College at UC San Diego, and Erik Conway is a historian of science and technology, living in Pasadena, California. This is cross-posted at Science Progress.

    Despite a two decades old consensus among climate scientists that the globe is warming, many people believe that there is still an active debate. This is due in large part to a direct and strategic public relations campaign being waged behind the scenes by free market-fundamentalists and funded by big polluters. Big industries such as tobacco, oil, and coal, aided by conservative foundations and the free-market ideologues who inhabit them, have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to undermine science and scientists. In doing so, they make it difficult, if not close to impossible, for ordinary people to get the information upon which reasoned public policy should be based.

    This coalition, promoting disinformation while claiming to be dedicated to science, is nothing new. In fact, today’s climate deniers are using the same playbook used by supporters of Ronald Reagan’s failed “Star Wars” program in the 1980s, and by the tobacco industry to avoid regulation of secondhand smoke in the 1990s. Indeed, science denial, free-market fundamentalists, and big industries have a long and sorry past together.
     
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    Hansen's prior predictions have been pretty accurate, much more so than his critics, many of whom were predicting a cooling for right now. Now those same critics lie about what they said only a year ago. I guess the 'coming ice age' came and went.
     
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    And what would you know of scientific ethics, Walleyes? You have posted lie after lie from sources that cannot even be called scientific.
     
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    I would like to emphasize the portion of your post I highlighted to call you on your constant attempts to distort science to extend the two decade old consensus about global warming past the point it began. Anyone with basic math skills can tell you that taking 20 from 2010 only gets you back to 1990, not 1970. I do thank you for providing the ultimate refutataion of your own tactics to lie about the science of global warming though. Please be kind enough never to lie about the science involved again.
     
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    Talk about the pot and the kettle.
     
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    You could also include the Creationists among the anti-science disinformation campaigners.
     
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    Care to post an example. You, who have been proven to lie on many occasions, have made many accusations against my postings and yet you have never been able to produce a single example. I wonder why that is? Mayhaps because I don't lie? I don't need to unlike yourself.

    I don't know why you need to lie but lie you do....and poorly.
     
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    Really now.

    I'll let the article from Salon speak for me.

    Stormy weather - Salon.com
     
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    See the first quote in my sig, LIAR! You are one of the poorest liars of all the CON$ervoFascist liars. :rofl:

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/2430487-post66.html
     

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