Dispositive News On Mass Shooting

Guess we aren't the only country:

Living with guns the Swiss way

Switzerland guns: Living with firearms the Swiss way
By Emma Jane Kirby BBC News, Zurich

11 February 2013

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Switzerland has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, but little gun-related street crime - so some opponents of gun control hail it as a place where firearms play a positive role in society. However, Swiss gun culture is unique, and guns are more tightly regulated than many assume.

Throughout the attack, Anne Ithen kept her eyes shut.

"I didn't want to see it. I didn't want those images in my head for the rest of my life... but I remember everything, every detail," she tells me. "Ninety bullets were fired and of course there was the homemade bomb - there was a hell of a noise."

She drops her head slightly as she takes herself back to the Zug cantonal assembly chamber on the afternoon of 27 September 2001, where she was chairing the council meeting. She remembers hearing a loud bang and thinking briefly that someone had accidentally upturned the coffee table in the corridor.

Then the door burst open and she saw Freidrich Leibacher, a local man, dressed in a police vest and laden with guns........continued Living with guns the Swiss way
 
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The biggest part of the mass executions in this nation are the people! We have a system of oppression that dates back at least 100 years or more. Not much has changed in the minds of the oppressed other than the means of expression of the hate and disgust of those who oppressed. And now we have no difference in the people killed by these killer as the hate is so enraged.
Europe does not have this problem or even australia which started as a penal colony. This is an America problem and won't end until we have a revolution to toss out the republican conservative.
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.

Dear BULLDOG
France had more deaths from violent attacks than the US during all the years under Obama.

Look at their population and gun policies.

what America has different is a culture of Constitutional law enforcement where arms are used for defense of laws not for violating any.

And American has a strong Christian culture which includes the cure for mental and criminal illness.

yes we have the solutions. but if we don't enforce and practice them, people die.

Look at what the left is demonizing:
Constitutional respect for law enforcement
and Christian beliefs and practices that identify and cure the causes of mental and physical illness.

And you wonder why the rates of crime and disease are wasting our resources and taxes.

The left keeps rejecting the very laws that prevent these abuses and violations by curing the causes and correcting the problems.

When we enforce our Constitutional and Christian laws that is the core of our church and state. When we reject and demean the spirit teaching and principles in our founding laws, this undercuts and destroys our relations, our communities and our nation.

We should be in the business of building stronger minds and relationships and better programs for preventing abuse and violence instead of undercutting the very spirit of law enforcement and cure for social ills.

BULLDOG right now, China has more Christians than America. If China discovers that spiritual healing can cure the cause of mental and physical illness before America unites and invests in research, then who is going to have the healthier population and country?

Will Russia and China beat America to the cure, because we are too busy fighting politically to demonize Christians and Constitutionalists for control of parties govt and media?

That we censor the very cure for our own problems that has been here the whole time.

Christians have been preaching about this and practicing the cure for centuries.

But maybe the Bible is true, prophets are never welcome in their hometowns.

So maybe Russia and China will figure it out first and leave America behind in the dust while we fight over problems and censor free solutions that can stop rising costs of crime and diseases.

We are so free to choose, we are free to choose self-destruction when the solutions and cures to these very problems are FREE. Yet we insist on wasting our taxes on prisons, on drugs, on govt programs that don't work. And refuse to listen to the people and solutions that don't cost any money at all, and would save lives otherwise lost to deadly diseases including addictions that fuel drugs and crime killing our country.
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows
The Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) is a research and education organization dedicated to conducting academic quality research on the relationship between laws regulating the ownership or use of guns, crime, and public safety; educating the public on the results of such research; and supporting other organizations, projects, and initiatives that are organized and operated for similar purposes. It has 501(C)(3) status, and does not accept donations from gun or ammunition makers or organizations such as the NRA or any other organizations involved in the gun control debate on either side of the issue. Nor do we accept donations from organizations involved in the debate over illegal immigration.

A real unbiased research organization!!!!



"A real unbiased research organization!!!!"

Obviously it is, you moron:

"...does not accept donations from gun or ammunition makers or organizations such as the NRA or any other organizations involved in the gun control debate on either side of the issue."



Now...what is your point, ExLaxMan......other than the one under you hat?
That you're a Liberal, and you're offended that I just pulled the rug out from under you?????
 
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A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

Wow PoliticalChic
Thanks for posting and sharing this.

Now where are the stats on how many shooters were mentally ill?
How many denied and refused help?

And how many people who receive spiritual healing and cure for mental illness go around doing drugs, committing crimes, and/or shooting people?

If spiritual healing is shown to correlate with reduction of mental and physical illness, crime, violence, addiction or abuse,
why aren't liberals pushing for medical research and reduce the
cost of health care so we can afford help for all people?

Instead of the billions we waste per state on prisons and mental health systems that just make people sicker. Where are the research studies and stats on cost effective cures for mental illness, disorders and addiction?


"Now where are the stats on how many shooters were mentally ill?"

The indiscriminate use of psychotropic drugs is one of the largest of causes.

Columbine | CCHR International



"At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. It is important to note the following lists cases where the information about the shooters psychiatric drug use was made public. To give an example, although it is known that James Holmes, suspected perpetrator of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting, was seeing psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, there has been no mention of what psychiatric drugs he may have been taking—though it is highly probably he was taking psychiatric drugs considering he was under a psychiatrist’s “care”. Also note that all these mass shootings didn’t just occur in the United States.

Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.

1. Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2. Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3. Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4. Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5. Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6. Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7. Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8. Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9. El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10. Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11. Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12. Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13. Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14. Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.

Note: Psychiatric Drugs Can Also Cause Severe Withdrawal Symptoms— Violent and Suicidal Thoughts – Watch This 2 Minute Video

There have been 22 international drug regulatory warnings issued on psychiatric drugs causing violence, mania, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and other violent type reactions. These warnings have been issued in the United States, European Union, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada."
Columbine | CCHR International

Not only do I blame school counselors and psychologists for the widespread use of these drugs....but I venture to guess that the vast majority of same are of the Liberal persuasion.In so very many ways, Liberals are a detriment to society.

it does have to make you wonder if all these "drugs" we give kids these days is playing a role in their emotional development.

in my own lifetime we simply acted up and parents...well they parented. they didn't rely on drugs, ADD excuses and the like, people were just who they were and learned to deal with it. now we drug kids to make the more or less easier to deal with at times.

35-40 years ago we didn't do this and kids had guns hanging in their truck window.
today we do this and we've got guns all over campus.
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.
Too stupid see the post saying they happen in gun free zones huh? You stains get stupider by the post.


On the subject of mass shootings....


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The average incident rate for the 28 EU countries is 0.0602 with a 95% confidence Interval of .0257 to .09477. The US rate is 0.078 is higher than the EU rate, but US and the average for EU countries are not statistically different. The average fatality rate for the 28 EU countries is 0.114 with a 95% confidence Interval of -.0244 to .253. The US rate is 0.089 is lower than the EU rate, but they are again not statistically significantly different.

There were 27% more casualties per capita from mass public shootings in EU than US from 2009-15"
UPDATED: Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe - Crime Prevention Research Center

My numbers come from a 45 year study. Yours is from 7 years.
Whatever. Anything you post reeks with regressive bullshit.
 
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A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.
Too stupid see the post saying they happen in gun free zones huh? You stains get stupider by the post.


The US has more civilian owned guns than any other country in the world,and 162% of the next most armed country's guns. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have ANY mass shootings.
Still too stupid to realize they happen in gun free zones.
 
The biggest part of the mass executions in this nation are the people! We have a system of oppression that dates back at least 100 years or more. Not much has changed in the minds of the oppressed other than the means of expression of the hate and disgust of those who oppressed. And now we have no difference in the people killed by these killer as the hate is so enraged.
Europe does not have this problem or even australia which started as a penal colony. This is an America problem and won't end until we have a revolution to toss out the republican conservative.



"We have a system of oppression...."

OMG!


Kernels of truth in your posts are harder to find than an out-of-order parking meter downtown!


.....and in your post I can hear the snuffling of the ubiquitous pigs of the Left…
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

Wow PoliticalChic
Thanks for posting and sharing this.

Now where are the stats on how many shooters were mentally ill?
How many denied and refused help?

And how many people who receive spiritual healing and cure for mental illness go around doing drugs, committing crimes, and/or shooting people?

If spiritual healing is shown to correlate with reduction of mental and physical illness, crime, violence, addiction or abuse,
why aren't liberals pushing for medical research and reduce the
cost of health care so we can afford help for all people?

Instead of the billions we waste per state on prisons and mental health systems that just make people sicker. Where are the research studies and stats on cost effective cures for mental illness, disorders and addiction?


"Now where are the stats on how many shooters were mentally ill?"

The indiscriminate use of psychotropic drugs is one of the largest of causes.

Columbine | CCHR International



"At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. It is important to note the following lists cases where the information about the shooters psychiatric drug use was made public. To give an example, although it is known that James Holmes, suspected perpetrator of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting, was seeing psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, there has been no mention of what psychiatric drugs he may have been taking—though it is highly probably he was taking psychiatric drugs considering he was under a psychiatrist’s “care”. Also note that all these mass shootings didn’t just occur in the United States.

Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.

1. Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2. Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3. Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4. Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5. Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6. Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7. Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8. Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9. El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10. Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11. Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12. Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13. Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14. Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.

Note: Psychiatric Drugs Can Also Cause Severe Withdrawal Symptoms— Violent and Suicidal Thoughts – Watch This 2 Minute Video

There have been 22 international drug regulatory warnings issued on psychiatric drugs causing violence, mania, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and other violent type reactions. These warnings have been issued in the United States, European Union, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada."
Columbine | CCHR International

Not only do I blame school counselors and psychologists for the widespread use of these drugs....but I venture to guess that the vast majority of same are of the Liberal persuasion.In so very many ways, Liberals are a detriment to society.

it does have to make you wonder if all these "drugs" we give kids these days is playing a role in their emotional development.

in my own lifetime we simply acted up and parents...well they parented. they didn't rely on drugs, ADD excuses and the like, people were just who they were and learned to deal with it. now we drug kids to make the more or less easier to deal with at times.

35-40 years ago we didn't do this and kids had guns hanging in their truck window.
today we do this and we've got guns all over campus.


No 'wonder' at all...

Psychotropic drugs are more of a problem than guns.

Focus on the ones prescribing them.
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.
Too stupid see the post saying they happen in gun free zones huh? You stains get stupider by the post.


The US has more civilian owned guns than any other country in the world,and 162% of the next most armed country's guns. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have ANY mass shootings.
Still too stupid to realize they happen in gun free zones.

"...they happen in gun free zones."

Seems mass shooters can't read,
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.
Too stupid see the post saying they happen in gun free zones huh? You stains get stupider by the post.


The US has more civilian owned guns than any other country in the world,and 162% of the next most armed country's guns. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have ANY mass shootings.
Still too stupid to realize they happen in gun free zones.

"...they happen in gun free zones."

Seems mass shooters can't read,
 
A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows

The US has less than 5% of the world's population, but 31% of the world's mass shootings. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have any mass shootings.
Too stupid see the post saying they happen in gun free zones huh? You stains get stupider by the post.


The US has more civilian owned guns than any other country in the world,and 162% of the next most armed country's guns. If more guns make us safer, we shouldn't have ANY mass shootings.
Still too stupid to realize they happen in gun free zones.

"...they happen in gun free zones."

Seems mass shooters can't read,

Terrible PoliticalChic

In truth they are crying out for help, similar to the attackers who struck the WTC on 9/11.

The media only pays attention and takes grievances seriously when there is violent protests en masse.

So we condition people to hide their problems behind drugs and when it gets unbearable, go shoot someone, commit murder suicide or both to protest not being helped or heard.

Our Vets commit suicide even when there is help offered. We need to do better than this, by addressing the spiritual cause of these disconnects and projection or rejection behind murder/suicides by sick people.

The political answer is unity. The unity will come from spiritual solutions to the root problems, which is fear unforgiveness and ill will that causes conflicts and obstructions. When we unite to include all people of all views with respect and equal justice instead of fear and rejection, we will open the door for solutions on both a spiritual and political level.

We block this path to unity when we reject and put our own fears and feelings of negative toward others above common principles and solutions that we can agree on and unite around.

That's how we can tell how close we are to a solution.
The harder we work to include and work with others
instead of spewing more hate rejection and division in the media.

We are the very bait and instigators inciting bullies or sick people to give up asking for help and just commit horrific acts to get attention. We need to stop encouraging and rewarding bullying and mass negative protests including acts of violence used for that.

If we listen and work with each other, then nobody needs to yell, abuse guns politics or media to cry out. We're already there. We can reverse this trend of hateful media and politics. Not by outyelling or outnumbering each other, but by including and respecting each other equally, Then we can put together the best solutions and let people choose whatever works instead of fighting for control over which solutions which people choose. Let everyone choose for themselves, and quit fighting to silence or outshout each other. Quit trying to outgun or shoot each other down, and this trend will stop.
 
Countries with strong gun control don’t have a mass shooting problem.
 


How bizarre for you to choose that particular title for your avi.....we both know that if you actually had a brain, you be outside kicking it around like a soccer ball.

This is the essence of the thread, and is in no way related to your post:

"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"
 

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