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Did the T34 or the Tiger influence future tank designs more?
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in this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
harmonica
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no--what response--please specifyfailed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
failed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
Yeah, but not due to tanks. They lost because they took on the two most powerful nations in the world....at the same time. The USSR, and the USA.
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no for killing and staying alivein this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
the best tanks had all of the 3--
no for killing and staying alivein this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
the best tanks had all
No tank has it all. ALL tanks are a balance of the three. The best tanks have the best balance of them.
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well the Tiger was not in response to the T34failed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
well the Tiger was not in response to the T34failed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
Actually, it was. The T-34 surprised the hell out of the Germans. They had no idea they existed, and when they finally encountered them they found that their tank main guns were useless against them. Like I stated earlier, a SINGLE T-34 stopped Army Group Center for several hours until it was set on fire by molotov cocktails. Here's the picture that was taken when it was finally destroyed.
The Stug was only able to destroy the suspension and tracks. They couldn't penetrate the fighting compartment.
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the Scorpion is NOT a tankin this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
that's why there are no scout tanks in the US military--to my knowlege
the Scorpion is NOT a tankin this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
that's why there are no scout tanks in the US military--to my knowlege
It's not? What then do you call this?
harmonica
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no it wasn't --the Panther was---- already linked it ..here it is again:no--what response--please specifyfailed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
it was their response to the fact that the t34 was superior to every tank in the german inventory in 1941.
Panzer V Panther
Panzer VI Tiger
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no it wasn't --the Panther was---- already linked it ..here it is again:no--what response--please specifyfailed response?? what do you mean?the germans' failed response
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
it was their response to the fact that the t34 was superior to every tank in the german inventory in 1941.
Panzer V Panther
Panzer VI Tiger
you'd almost have a point if the t34 hadn't come out in 1941and put paid to barbarossa
have a nice day
study hard
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the Scorpion is NOT a tankin this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
that's why there are no scout tanks in the US military--to my knowlege
It's not? What then do you call this?
ARV--CVR....NOT a tank
FV101 Scorpion - Wikipedia
Army Guide
the M1 is a tank
M1 Abrams
harmonica
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the Scorpion is NOT a tankin this order:
firepower
armor
mobility
Depends on what the purpose of the tank is. For a scout tank (Alvis Scorpion, as a for instance) mobility is more important than armor or firepower.
that's why there are no scout tanks in the US military--to my knowlege
It's not? What then do you call this?
Alvis Scorpion FV-101
harmonica
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most of you are bootcampers [ newbies/rookies/etc to WW2/military ]no it wasn't --the Panther was---- already linked it ..here it is again:no--what response--please specifyfailed response?? what do you mean?
seems self explanatory
they lost, after all
it was their response to the fact that the t34 was superior to every tank in the german inventory in 1941.
Panzer V Panther
Panzer VI Tiger
you'd almost have a point if the t34 hadn't come out in 1941and put paid to barbarossa
have a nice day
study hard
it states in my links that the Panther was in response to the T34--undeniable
the Panther began AFTER the T34 was met
the Tiger was begun long BEFORE the T34 was met
from the Panther link:
bootcampersIn June 1941, during a seemingly unstoppable advance, the first encounters with T-34s really shook the General Staff, as more and more reports signaled that a Russian tank was found superior to both the upgraded Panzer III and the Panzer IV. After many had been captured in relatively good order, Heinz Guderian ordered a full report to be drawn by a Panzerkommision, dispatched to assess the T-34. It was noted that the combination of thick, well-sloped armor, a very effective 76.2 mm (3 in) gun and good power-to-weight ratio combined with large tracks meant that the Russian tank almost reached the “impossible triangle” that characterized a perfect medium tank. This was unmatched in the German arsenal, raising concerns, which in turn needed prompt reactions.
you must not have read the FIRST paragraphs of the links or you don't understand them
it's in the first paragraphs
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Which of those tanks, the T34 or the Tiger, had a bigger influence on the future of tank warfare?
The Mark I.
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