Did Obama lie about health care for illegals?

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    1) President Obama is not being truthful because the Republicans attempted to insert an amendment in the bill such that the proposed plan would not cover illegal immigrants and they were voted down in a straight party line vote by the democrats.

    2) Given the bills in the House and Senate are over 1,000 pages each and are written in pure legalese it will be up to the beaurocrats to imlement the bill once it has been passed, and without specific guidance to omit the coverage of illegal immigrants they will be covered. If this were not the wish of the Democrats why would they vote down the amendment (mentioned above)???
     
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    Why would you assume that, without that specific guidance, illegal immigrants would qualify for healthcare? Do illegals qualify for any other government program?
     
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    No, just another one of the countless lies from the GOP machine. It's been in the bill we have from the beginning...

    H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

    Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.


    Is this too "legalese" for you? I can get the comic book version if you need it.
     
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    Directly? Perhaps not. Indirectly.......yes they do qualify for several State's government programs that are supported by the Federal government.

    This is why California is broke.

    What this bill needs is a fool proof way to identify United States citizens and documented legitimate immigrants who work and pay taxes so they get their entitlement if this tax and spending scheme passes. I for one will NOT support a President who advocates a public option. This country is broke enough without saddling the tax payers with another trillion dollars of debt.
     
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    He lied right to your faces. The democwats purposefully voted down the Heller amendment. They know damn well they are going to give illegals health care.
     
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    H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

    Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

    You are being misinformed. There is no amendment needed.
     
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    One would have to actually READ the amendment, but my guess would be that it created an affirmative duty on healthcare providers to check documents. Dr's aren't there to do the job of the INS... or whatever they call it now.
     
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    my eyes are wide open budrow.. you can write hr3200 til your herd of cows come home. the gov cannot control what illegals do, cannot stop them from coming cannot stop them from getting on the welfare dole, cannot stop them from getting social security, cannot stop them from stealing ID.. so what gives you the confidence that they can stop illegals from getting on the "public option" especially since the demoncwats voted down the Heller amendment. you are the second fool that's tried to tell us it's "written in the bill" big effen deal.. the gov. is a proven miserable failure.. look at california if you need more proof..
     
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    Thanks... wish I'd seen that before I posted...

    they're shameless..
     
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    If the Gov. can't stop illegals from taking advantage of this entitlement then what difference does it make whether the Heller ammendment was voted down?
     

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