Dictator Bloomberg to restrict pain killers in NYC

[LadyGunSlinger]

Do liberals need pacies from Momma Bloomberg too?

 

[Ernie S.]

Typical lib crap.
Same as guns, really. People abuse pain killers so we'll just make it harder for people that DON'T abuse pain killers, to get pain killers.

Yup! exactly the same. Makes as much sense too.

Yup, Utah. Packed full of liberals!

We are talking about Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He is not the mayor of Salt Lake City.

I agree. people abuse drugs. Restrict pain killers to drug abusers, not people that are genuinely in pain.

What Mayor nanny is doing is something to make him feel like he is addressing a problem.

I'm 5'9" and weigh about 140-145 pounds, but I can't buy a 32 oz Coke in New York City because some fat ass in Brooklyn can't pass a doughnut shop without going into debt?

People who are addicted to pain killers know how to get more without an emergency room visit. People in serious pain, likely don't. The mayor is a monster!

 

[Ringel05]

Already been there and got the t-shit.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/6634848-post1.html

 

[AmyNation]

Typical lib crap.
Same as guns, really. People abuse pain killers so we'll just make it harder for people that DON'T abuse pain killers, to get pain killers.

Yup! exactly the same. Makes as much sense too.

Yup, Utah. Packed full of liberals!

We are talking about Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He is not the mayor of Salt Lake City.

I agree. people abuse drugs. Restrict pain killers to drug abusers, not people that are genuinely in pain.

What Mayor nanny is doing is something to make him feel like he is addressing a problem.

I'm 5'9" and weigh about 140-145 pounds, but I can't buy a 32 oz Coke in New York City because some fat ass in Brooklyn can't pass a doughnut shop without going into debt?

People who are addicted to pain killers know how to get more without an emergency room visit. People in serious pain, likely don't. The mayor is a monster!

Yes I know, if Bloomberg does it, its simply libs showing their pinko commie tendencies, if other mayors do it, no need to comment from the peanut gallery.

I don't know if the law is a good idea or not. It seems interesting to me that many private hospitals have already stated they plan to adoptthe policy voluntarily. Has it worked well in the other cities who have adopted the practice? I'd be interested to see some stats.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Already been there and got the t-shit.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/6634848-post1.html

I'll ask the mods to merge them.. Thanks.

 

[Katzndogz]

No matter how libs want to paint this Bloomberg said that he doesn't care if some people have to suffer. You can't get much plainer than that.

 

[Ernie S.]

Yup, Utah. Packed full of liberals!

We are talking about Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He is not the mayor of Salt Lake City.

I agree. people abuse drugs. Restrict pain killers to drug abusers, not people that are genuinely in pain.

What Mayor nanny is doing is something to make him feel like he is addressing a problem.

I'm 5'9" and weigh about 140-145 pounds, but I can't buy a 32 oz Coke in New York City because some fat ass in Brooklyn can't pass a doughnut shop without going into debt?

People who are addicted to pain killers know how to get more without an emergency room visit. People in serious pain, likely don't. The mayor is a monster!

Yes I know, if Bloomberg does it, its simply libs showing their pinko commie tendencies, if other mayors do it, no need to comment from the peanut gallery.

I don't know if the law is a good idea or not. It seems interesting to me that many private hospitals have already stated they plan to adoptthe policy voluntarily. Has it worked well in the other cities who have adopted the practice? I'd be interested to see some stats.

Has it done some good? Undoubtedly it's done good. It has probably restricted the amount of pain killers handed out to a handful of addicts that only come to the ER to get free drugs.
It has also likely restricted accessibility to pain killers to far more people who presented with a legitimate need.

So net result is 6 addicts turned away with a 3 day supply and 60 people turned away with 3 days of relative comfort before they are in agony due to legitimate pain.
Congratu-fuckin-lations, mayor bloomberg.

 

[AmyNation]

We are talking about Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He is not the mayor of Salt Lake City.

I agree. people abuse drugs. Restrict pain killers to drug abusers, not people that are genuinely in pain.

What Mayor nanny is doing is something to make him feel like he is addressing a problem.

I'm 5'9" and weigh about 140-145 pounds, but I can't buy a 32 oz Coke in New York City because some fat ass in Brooklyn can't pass a doughnut shop without going into debt?

People who are addicted to pain killers know how to get more without an emergency room visit. People in serious pain, likely don't. The mayor is a monster!

Yes I know, if Bloomberg does it, its simply libs showing their pinko commie tendencies, if other mayors do it, no need to comment from the peanut gallery.

I don't know if the law is a good idea or not. It seems interesting to me that many private hospitals have already stated they plan to adoptthe policy voluntarily. Has it worked well in the other cities who have adopted the practice? I'd be interested to see some stats.

Has it done some good? Undoubtedly it's done good. It has probably restricted the amount of pain killers handed out to a handful of addicts that only come to the ER to get free drugs.
It has also likely restricted accessibility to pain killers to far more people who presented with a legitimate need.

So net result is 6 addicts turned away with a 3 day supply and 60 people turned away with 3 days of relative comfort before they are in agony due to legitimate pain.
Congratu-fuckin-lations, mayor bloomberg.

That's your opinion, and it may very well be correct. However there is no evidence one way or the other.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

"Similar rules have been adopted in Washington State and Utah. Dr. Thomas A. Farley, the city’s health commissioner, said opioid painkillers were not much different from highly addictive and more taboo street drugs like heroin. He called them “heroin in pill form.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/n...in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0

You're truly a good Socialist.. Well done.

What makes this "Socialist?"

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The people of NYC apparently love politicians who implement authoritarian policies because they constantly vote for them. Their issue to deal with, not mine.

 

[AmyNation]

The people of NYC apparently love politicians who implement authoritarian policies because they constantly vote for them. Their issue to deal with, not mine.

Well, last poll I saw said his popularity had slipped below 40% for the 1st time, so perhaps NY is seeing the light.

 

[mjollnir]

"Similar rules have been adopted in Washington State and Utah. Dr. Thomas A. Farley, the city’s health commissioner, said opioid painkillers were not much different from highly addictive and more taboo street drugs like heroin. He called them “heroin in pill form.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/n...in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0

You're truly a good Socialist.. Well done.

What makes this "Socialist?"

She's far, far too stupid and robotic to rationally answer that.

 

[CaféAuLait]

This man is insane. But he represents Liberal hell on earth.

"Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City’s 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse.

Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days’ worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet"

FUBAR'D that's the world of liberals these days. Control freaks. YIKES.

City officials said the policy was aimed at reducing the growing dependency on painkillers and preventing excess amounts of drugs from being taken out of medicine chests and sold on the street or abused by teenagers and others who want to get high.

“Abuse of prescription painkillers in our city has increased alarmingly,” Mr. Bloomberg said in announcing the new policy at Elmhurst Hospital Center, a public hospital in Queens.

Over 250,000 New Yorkers over age 12 are abusing prescription painkillers, he said, leading to rising hospital admissions for overdoses and deaths, Medicare fraud by doctors who write false prescriptions and violent crime like “holdups at neighborhood pharmacies.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/n...public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?hp&_r=0

Okay, so they go to the ER and get a three day supply for a problem which might last for 7-10 days, broken ankle, kidney stones, broken whatever. (Just hypothetical on the time the issue may last). It takes on average 2-3 weeks to be seen by my Primary Care Doctor. So the patient still has the issue with pain 72 hours ( 3 days) later does he/she revisit the ER and wait hours to be seen again for a refill until they can see their PCM, probably costing the state thousands for each ER visit if they are uninsured? They state they want to save money but it is really going to do such?

 

[AmyNation]

This man is insane. But he represents Liberal hell on earth.

"Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City’s 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse.

Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days’ worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet"

FUBAR'D that's the world of liberals these days. Control freaks. YIKES.

City officials said the policy was aimed at reducing the growing dependency on painkillers and preventing excess amounts of drugs from being taken out of medicine chests and sold on the street or abused by teenagers and others who want to get high.

“Abuse of prescription painkillers in our city has increased alarmingly,” Mr. Bloomberg said in announcing the new policy at Elmhurst Hospital Center, a public hospital in Queens.

Over 250,000 New Yorkers over age 12 are abusing prescription painkillers, he said, leading to rising hospital admissions for overdoses and deaths, Medicare fraud by doctors who write false prescriptions and violent crime like “holdups at neighborhood pharmacies.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/n...public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?hp&_r=0

Okay, so they go to the ER and get a three day supply for a problem which might last for 7-10 days, broken ankle, kidney stones, broken whatever. (Just hypothetical on the time the issue may last). It takes on average 2-3 weeks to be seen by my Primary Care Doctor. So the patient still has the issue with pain 72 hours ( 3 days) later does he/she revisit the ER and wait hours to be seen again for a refill until they can see their PCM, probably costing the state thousands for each ER visit if they are uninsured? They state they want to save money but it is really going to do such?

I wondered about that as well. I suppose in instances where the patient needs more, the ER doctor would have to refer you to a free clinic, a pain clinic or someone else who can see you on such short notice.

 

[eots]

you are not really free if you cant buy opiates or any other drug you choose

 

[eots]

people have a god given right to ingest any substance they choose

 

[eots]

Republic. I like the sound of the word. It means people can live free, talk free, go or come, buy or sell, be drunk or sober, however they choose. Some words give you a feeling. Republic is one of those words

John Wayne

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's not like he's talking about ibuprofen, aspirin or acetaminophen. As much as I think Bloomberg is a moron, he does, on rare occasions, get something right.

This is not one of those occasions. Bloomberg is a fucktard, not a doctor. He knows nothing about medicine or pain management and can offer nothing to the debate on what to prescribe.

Prescription drug abuse is epidemic in this country and he's trying to do something locally to counter it.

Leftists are fools, seeking to control what they don't understand. I hope the fucker is seriously injured, and is given an Advil for the pain. Fucking pile of shit.

 

[Againsheila]

It's not like he's talking about ibuprofen, aspirin or acetaminophen. As much as I think Bloomberg is a moron, he does, on rare occasions, get something right. Prescription drug abuse is epidemic in this country and he's trying to do something locally to counter it.

He's applying a ham-handed solution and causing lots of problems. There are literally millions of people who take Percocet for legitimate pain management. It's already very hard to get it at pharmacies in NYC and now he wants to make it just plain impossible to have it available for those who need it on a long term basis.

For a few years my wife has had to see (and pay for) a doctor's visit every 6 weeks to get medicine needed to treat a condition that surgery cannot fix. This involves an entire afternoon of waiting, tests, an interview, and then a trip to the pharmacy where she gets to wait and be interviewed again. Subjecting those in actual pain to this ordeal twice a week is inhumane, all to combat a problem that is rampant in the byzantine and corrupt license system.

What does all of this have to do with emergency rooms dispensing prescriptions for controlled substance drugs you say are no longer available. If you read it, it applies to ERs, (unless I missed something somewhere) then one goes to their doctor or a free clinic. Now if it was being applied across the board to include all medical providers and medical facilities then I would be the first one to revile him and his approach.
Is the ER you and your wife's family doctor/clinic?

I don't know about New York, but in Washington state, clinics are not allowed to prescribe certain painkillers, including percocet and Oxycontin. ERs are not allowed to write a prescription for more than a couple of days. If you don't have a regular doctor, or your regular doctor is on vacation, you are up a creek without a paddle. Yet another instance where a few have ruined it for the rest only in this case, the rest now have to go through pain they wouldn't otherwise have to go through, real, physical pain. A lot of doctors don't have time to see you when you are hurt, or sometimes for a few days after that. What is a person suppose to do? Well, according to our law, they are just suppose to grin and bear it. Clinics, which are suppose to help when you can't get into the doctor's office can't help anymore.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Anyone who needs painkillers for more than 3 days should get them from an actual doctor treating them, not the emergency room.

Damn right, if a kid breaks their arm and goes to the ER, they should have to go to another doctor to get pain medication - fuck em, we have a dictatorship to construct - let the little bastards suffer.

It warms my heart to see the compassion of leftists on display.