Democrats try to ram through Puerto Rican Statehood bill before Jan 3rd

[Ray From Cleveland]

Communists. Yea. You’re not nuts

That's what the Democrat party is whether you want to admit that or not.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What makes you think that it would BE 2 Dem seats?

If it wasn't they wouldn't even be thinking about it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What makes you think that it would BE 2 Dem seats?

The Democrats want it.
If they thought there were any chance of the GOP gaining senate seats, they'd violently oppose it.
So would you.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Democrats are looking to allow citizens to vote for those who represent them.
Goes back to the American Revolution

Then put DC into Maryland’s voting system.

Poof, problem solved.

But that’s not what leftists want

 

[Pellinore]

Conservatives overall want to maintain the institutions..

Conservatives, perhaps, but in case you haven't noticed, the conservatives aren't in the driver's seat of the GOP any more.

 

[rightwinger]

Then put DC into Maryland’s voting system.

Poof, problem solved.

But that’s not what leftists want

Both DC and Maryland would have to agree
Not sure MD wants the added costs

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Both DC and Maryland would have to agree
Not sure MD wants the added costs

Well it’s either that or do something weird like making a mere city into an entire state

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Conservatives, perhaps, but in case you haven't noticed, the conservatives aren't in the driver's seat of the GOP any more.

Agreed. The GOP has shifted moderate over the last 20 years. Meanwhile, the left has sprinted to radical leftism.. the entire Overton window has shifted left.

So when you see leftists complaining about the so-called radical conservatives, they’re just so far left that moderates look radical from where they sit wayyyyyyy out there

 

[rightwinger]

Well it’s either that or do something weird like making a mere city into an entire state

It has the population of Wyoming and pays 23 rd in total federal taxes

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It has the population of Wyoming and pays 23 rd in total federal taxes

Does it produce the amount of commodities Wyoming does? Not even close.

 

[rightwinger]

Does it produce the amount of commodities Wyoming does? Not even close.

It has more wealth than Montana

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It has more wealth than Montana

So what? Montana provides top amounts of wheat, beef, grain, etc.. stuff we actually need

 

[Lesh]

Well it’s either that or do something weird like making a mere city into an entire state

A “mere city” with a population greater than Wyoming and no representation in Congress

 

[22lcidw]

Perhaps this will open up the gates to states splitting up into newer states. Imagine a thousand senators. 100 thousand representatives. I guarantee you doubling and tripling the total tax take of those struggling to survive due to eing over the so-called poverty line is going to play well is fool's gold. Whoopi Goldberg has had several abortions. Some other woman playing by the rules and struggling and accused of hate is as evil as it comes.

 

[Nostra]

It has more wealth than Montana

90% government jobs.

 

[Nostra]

A “mere city” with a population greater than Wyoming and no representation in Congress

They should move.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

A “mere city” with a population greater than Wyoming and no representation in Congress

Well they can fucking move if they don’t like it, the rules have been the rules for over two centuries. They shouldn’t have a mayor, they shouldn’t elect a city council - it is explicitly federal territory controlled by Congress so no state would be considered favored by having the capital within it.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Then put DC into Maryland’s voting system.

Poof, problem solved.

But that’s not what leftists want

You also have to repeal the 23rd amendment which isn’t easy…

… because otherwise the residents of DC who don’t live in what would theoretically return to Maryland… which is just the folks who live at the White House, get 3 electoral college votes. If literally no one lives in the District of Columbia - if not even the White House is considered a residence, then there are 3 phantom EC votes that go to no one, ever.

Basically nothing changes DC’s status without 66 of the House and Senate agreeing and then 38 states agreeing to it.

The Constitution sets the rules for DC and becoming a state isn’t possible without amendment. Good luck to them if they want to try, well over half the states will vote no, so there goes your 75% requirement.

 

[Anathema]

I’m all for this. It would finally force the citizens of Puerto Rico (including members of my wife’s family) to either request statehood or go out on their own. Neither option is really something they want. The “free association “ option would still make them their own country, but create a negotiated relationship between the US and Puerto Rico.

 

[Lesh]

Well they can fucking move if they don’t like it, the rules have been the rules for over two centuries. They shouldn’t have a mayor, they shouldn’t elect a city council - it is explicitly federal territory controlled by Congress so no state would be considered favored by having the capital within it.

You do realize that a big chunk of the original DC was removed years ago right?