democrats, do you agree or disagree

[Unkotare]

with this statement:


"continued dependence upon relief...is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit"


Why or why not?

 

[Unkotare]

I wonder if obama would agree...

 

[Truthmatters]

when you give relief it needs to be paired with training and education.

that is what that statement it talking about

 

[Unkotare]

when you give relief it needs to be paired with training and education.

that is what that statement it talking about

By all means, show the rest of the content that proves your claim.

 

[Unkotare]

What immediately followed the quote above was:

"It is in violation of the traditions of America. Work must be found for able-bodied but destitute workers.

The Federal Government must and shall quit this business of relief."

 

[iamwhatiseem]

when you give relief it needs to be paired with training and education.

that is what that statement it talking about

By all means, show the rest of the content that proves your claim.

Asking Truthdon'tmatter to clarify a position is a fools game. It is always advisable to see the ignorance of a fool before their condition becomes yours.

 

[GuyPinestra]

but the stark fact before us is that great numbers still remain unemployed.

A large proportion of these unemployed and their dependents have been forced on the relief rolls. The burden on the federal government has grown with great rapidity. We have here a human as well as an economic problem. When humane considerations are concerned, americans give them precedence. The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole our relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. It is inimical to the dictates of a sound policy. It is in violation of the traditions of america. Work must be found for able-bodied but destitute workers.

The federal government must and shall quit this business of relief.

fdr - 1935

 

[Truthmatters]

Franklin D. Roosevelt - State of the Union Address -- 1935


read the speach you assholes

 

[Unkotare]

We know what it's from. Show the portion that specifically supports your claim.

 

[Truthmatters]

He is talking about helping people along with helping creat jobs os they can leave the programs in time

 

[Truthmatters]

The first objectives of emergency legislation of 1933 were to relieve destitution, to make it possible for industry to operate in a more rational and orderly fashion, and to put behind industrial recovery the impulse of large expenditures in Government undertakings. The purpose of the National Industrial Recovery Act to provide work for more people succeeded in a substantial manner within the first few months of its life, and the act has continued to maintain employment gains and greatly improved working conditions in industry.

The program of public works provided for int he Recovery Act launched the Federal Government into a task for which there was little time to make preparation and little American experience to follow. Great employment has been given and is being given by these works.

More than tow billions of dollars have also been expended in direct relief to the destitute. Local agencies, of necessity, determined the recipients of this form of relief. With inevitable exceptions, the funds were spent by them with reasonable efficiency, and as a result actual want of food and clothing in the great majority of cases has been overcome.

But the stark fact before us is that great numbers still remain unemployed.

A large proportion of these unemployed and their dependents have been forced on the relief rolls. The burden on the Federal Government has grown with great rapidity. We have here a human as well as an economic problem. When humane considerations are concerned, Americans give them precedence. The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole our relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. It is inimical to the dictates of a sound policy. It is in violation of the traditions of America. Work must be found for able-bodied but destitute workers.


http://www.albany.edu/faculty/gz580/his101/su35fdr.html

 

[GuyPinestra]

He is talking about helping people along with helping creat jobs os they can leave the programs in time

Please highlight the part that talks about "training and education". I just can't seem to find it....

 

[Truthmatters]

This new program of emergency public employment should be governed by a number practical principles.

All work undertaken should be useful - not just for a day or a year, but useful in the sense that it affords permanent improvement in living conditions or that it creates future new wealth for the Nation.
Compensation on emergency public projects should be in the form of security payments which should be larger than the amount now received as a relief dole but, at the same time, not so large as to encourage the rejection of opportunities for private employment or the leaving of private employment to engage in Government work.
Projects should be undertaken on which a percentage of direct labor can be used.
Preference should be given to those projects which will be self-liquidating in the sense that there is a reasonable expectation that the Government will get its money back at some future time.
The projects to be undertaken should be selected and planned so as to compete as little as possible with private enterprises. This suggests that if it were not for the necessity of giving useful work to the unemployed now on relief these projects in most instances would not now be undertaken.
The planning of projects would seek to assure work during the coming fiscal year to the individuals now on relief, or until such time as private employment is available. In order to make adjustment to increasing private employment, work should be planned with a view to tapering it off in proportion to the speed with which the emergency workers are offered positions with private employers.
Efforts should be made to locate projects where they will serve the greatest unemployment needs as shown by present relief rolls, and the broad program of the National Resources Board should be freely used for guidance in selection. Our ultimate objective being the enrichment of human lives, the Government has the primary duty to use its emergency expenditures as much as possible to serve those who cannot secure the advantages of private capital.

 

[Truthmatters]

Most of the people who build the Hoover damn never built a damn before

 

[Truthmatters]

poor things.

see what happens when you try to rewrite history

 

[hjmick]

Most of the people who build the Hoover damn never built a damn before

They still building that are they?

 

[Moonglow]

Funny how TM can explain the speech, but all you other dunder heads can do is deride the real meaning.
So I am guessing it is the trolls that are without any knowledge to the idea being presented.

 

[Moonglow]

Most of the people who build the Hoover damn never built a damn before

They still building that are they?

You don't know the answer?

 

[Moonglow]

when you give relief it needs to be paired with training and education.

that is what that statement it talking about

By all means, show the rest of the content that proves your claim.

You have yet to confirm or reaffirm any posirion other than a heckler.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

with this statement:


"continued dependence upon relief...is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit"


Why or why not?

And once again, in context:

A large proportion of these unemployed and their dependents have been forced on the relief rolls. The burden on the Federal Government has grown with great rapidity. We have here a human as well as an economic problem. When humane considerations are concerned, Americans give them precedence. The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole our relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. It is inimical to the dictates of a sound policy. It is in violation of the traditions of America. Work must be found for able-bodied but destitute workers.

FDR was referring to existing programs that were inadequate and didn’t address the long-term needs of unemployed Americans, he was not referring to the overall philosophy of public assistance.

The president continued:

There are, however, an additional three and one-half million employable people who are on relief. With them the problem is different and the responsibility is different. This group was the victim of a Nation-wide depression caused by conditions which were not local but national. The Federal Government is the only governmental agency with sufficient power and credit to meet this situation. We have assumed this task, and we shall not shrink form it in the future. It is a duty dictated by every intelligent consideration of national policy to ask you to make it possible for the United States to give employment to all of these three-and-a-half million people now on relief, pending their absorption in a rising tide of private employment.

It is my thought that, with the exception of certain of the normal public building operations of the Government, all emergency public works shall be united in a single new and greatly enlarged plan.

With the establishment of this new system we can supersede the Federal Emergency Relief Administration with a coordinated authority which will be charged with the orderly liquidation of our present relief activities and the substitution of a national chart for the giving of work.

This new program of emergency public employment should be governed by a number practical principles.

All work undertaken should be useful - not just for a day or a year, but useful in the sense that it affords permanent improvement in living conditions or that it creates future new wealth for the Nation.

Compensation on emergency public projects should be in the form of security payments which should be larger than the amount now received as a relief dole but, at the same time, not so large as to encourage the rejection of opportunities for private employment or the leaving of private employment to engage in Government work.

Projects should be undertaken on which a percentage of direct labor can be used.

Preference should be given to those projects which will be self-liquidating in the sense that there is a reasonable expectation that the Government will get its money back at some future time.

The projects to be undertaken should be selected and planned so as to compete as little as possible with private enterprises. This suggests that if it were not for the necessity of giving useful work to the unemployed now on relief these projects in most instances would not now be undertaken.

The planning of projects would seek to assure work during the coming fiscal year to the individuals now on relief, or until such time as private employment is available. In order to make adjustment to increasing private employment, work should be planned with a view to tapering it off in proportion to the speed with which the emergency workers are offered positions with private employers.

Efforts should be made to locate projects where they will serve the greatest unemployment needs as shown by present relief rolls, and the broad program of the National Resources Board should be freely used for guidance in selection. Our ultimate objective being the enrichment of human lives, the Government has the primary duty to use its emergency expenditures as much as possible to serve those who cannot secure the advantages of private capital.

In proper context, therefore, any reasonable person would agree that a pragmatic approach blending both pubic and private sectors is the desirable course of action.