Democrat presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, has no problem with taking 90% of your income

[Flash]

You are not poorer because somebody else is richer.

It should make no difference to you if somebody else has more money unless you are a greedy little envious shithead.

However, when the government takes money away from people that have discretionary funds then they dry up investments and capital growth and that makes the economy weaker, which in turn causes poverty at the lower end and a greater income spread.

The best way to stay out of poverty is to not vote for Liberals that screw up the economy with a disastrous redistribution of income agenda that destroys jobs. Vote for Conservatives that know how to get the government off the backs of the people and know how to stimulate capitalism. Then the economy will grow and everybody will do well, instead of just the rich.

 

[mudwhistle]

Talk about inequality. The government has it all while you're at their mercy under his ideas.

Bernie Sanders A 90 tax rate sounds fine to me Hot Air

He also thinks women dream about being gang-raped........but it's obvious Bernie is nuts. If Democrats felt he could win, they'd support him over Hillary in a heartbeat.

This is how sick the left has become.

 

[hadit]

You are not poorer because somebody else is richer.

It should make no difference to you if somebody else has more money unless you are a greedy little envious shithead.

However, when the government takes money away from people that have discretionary funds then they dry up investments and capital growth and that makes the economy weaker, which in turn causes poverty at the lower end and a greater income spread.

The best way to stay out of poverty is to not vote for Liberals that screw up the economy with a disastrous redistribution of income agenda that destroys jobs. Vote for Conservatives that know how to get the government off the backs of the people and know how to stimulate capitalism. Then the economy will grow and everybody will do well, instead of just the rich.

I've often noted that Paris Hilton contributes a whole lot more to the economy in one weekend of shopping than I do in a year. I don't care if she inherited the money, I'm just glad she's spending it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

yea we know taking $3,000 dollars away from someone is so much bigger then $300,000 dollars

Classic Idiot-Gram ^^^

Even sarcasm can't excuse stupid comments like this one.

^^^^^ classic liberal scam, won't post actual dollars because they know the average liberal don't know how to do math so they use percentages to hide it.

 

[bripat9643]

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The numbers are the numbers. You can't get away from them. If you want to pay down the debt, you have to raise taxes.

No you reduce spending.

If you want infrastructure repaired, you have to raise taxes. You can't do this by cutting costs because the vast majority of the costs can't be cut.

We spend more money on "infrastructure than we ever have before. We collect tons of roadbuilding money through the highway taxes that we all pay when we buy a gallon of gas. The Federal government is notorious about not spending the money wisely. We could save a ton of money by not contracting work requiring Davis Bacon wages.

Not unless you want to toss millions of retirees out on the street. We tried trickle down, it failed. We tried tax cuts, they failed. We tried sequestration, it failed. When we increased the tax rate to 90%, it made businesses reinvest in their business rather than horde money and pay huge salaries to executives, and that succeeded. I have to go with what works.

Retirees pay into the SS fund but the government spent the money on other shit and added in a welfare scheme with disability so don't complain to me if the program falls apart as we know it will.

Taking money away from the people that earned it and using it to support a big bloated out of control welfare economy does noting to stimulate the economy and it hurts the economy by taking money out of investments.

This unbelievable stupid Liberal idea that it is better for the government to have the money that you earn rather than you having it yourself is one of the most demented and convoluted ideas the idiotic Liberals have ever come up with. I am much better at determining how to spend the money I earn rather than some corrupt bureaucrat elected by special groups.

Wanting to tax the rich is nothing more than sorry ass greed from dickheads. It is morally wrong to use the government to steal money not to mention destroying the economy. Funny thing. this idea to "tax the rich" always seems to filter down to all of us sooner or later. For instance, this prick Obama promised not to tax anybody making less than $250K a year but he blew that big time, didn't he?

Why don't we take the 90% out of your salary? If it is right to steal it from somebody else then it is just as right to take your money. Any justification you have for taking it from others also applies to you.

If you think the government needs more money then send it to them. Leave me out of it. I sure as hell don't want to give any more money to the government than it needs to do the minimal government functions and I sure as hell don't want to be a party in stealing it from others.

I repeat, the numbers are the numbers. It is easy to say you reduce spending but you don't say on what. Whether you approve of what the government did with the SS money doesn't matter. That does not change the fact that the bulk of the budget goes to SS and medicare. That is the fact. Once you take away those mandated expenses, the military and a variety of other costs I am sure you don't want removed, the stuff you say are unnecessary doesn't amount to much.

What are the consequences of repealing SS and Medicare? Those who advocate such extreme measure seem to fail to understand the cost-deficit such an action will produce.

What "cost deficit" is that?

 

[Wry Catcher]

You didn't mention that those abused rich folk paying 68% of the personal tax load are making 85% of the nation's personal income. Why are they not paying their 85%?

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

 

[SAYIT]

All you loony lefties are pathetic weasels and the point remains that the rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%?

You didn't mention that those abused rich folk paying 68% of the personal tax load are making 85% of the nation's personal income. Why are they not paying their 85%?

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

Evidently the only way you lefties can justify your POV is by lying. Warf claims that our top 10% "are making 85% of the nation's personal income" ... a lie which neither warf nor the comrades have even attempted to support. You now claim that those earning $30,000/yr are taxed at the same rate as those making $3mil/yr ... another lie intended to assuage your constant whining about "the rich." Not one of you has answered the very obvious question first posed pages ago:
the top 10% are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%?

 

[Wry Catcher]

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

yea we know taking $3,000 dollars away from someone is so much bigger then $300,000 dollars

Classic Idiot-Gram ^^^

Even sarcasm can't excuse stupid comments like this one.

^^^^^ classic liberal scam, won't post actual dollars because they know the average liberal don't know how to do math so they use percentages to hide it.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

yea we know taking $3,000 dollars away from someone is so much bigger then $300,000 dollars

Classic Idiot-Gram ^^^

Even sarcasm can't excuse stupid comments like this one.

^^^^^ classic liberal scam, won't post actual dollars because they know the average liberal don't know how to do math so they use percentages to hide it.

I posted actual dollars in the example above. A so called fair tax, everyone pays 10%. The consequences are obvious and there is nothing arcane to the post.

 

[2aguy]

In a normal business relationship, 50-50 is considered two equal partners in a business....when it goes from 51-49, then one partner is in control of decisions....

When it is 90%-10% then one is the slave and the other is the master.......ask bernie who he thinks the slave should be..........

 

[2aguy]

You didn't mention that those abused rich folk paying 68% of the personal tax load are making 85% of the nation's personal income. Why are they not paying their 85%?

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

Evidently the only way you lefties can justify your POV is by lying. Warf claims that our top 10% "are making 85% of the nation's personal income" ... a lie which neither warf nor the comrades have even attempted to support. You now claim that those earning $30,000/yr are taxed at the same rate as those making $3mil/yr ... another lie intended to assuage your constant whining about "the rich." Not one of you has answered the very obvious question first posed pages ago:
the rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%?

Let's face it.....90% still isn't enough...they want complete control by the government.....

 

[SAYIT]

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Talk about inequality. The government has it all while you're at their mercy under his ideas.

Bernie Sanders A 90 tax rate sounds fine to me Hot Air

You mean like they did during the Eisenhower administration, when we created one of the greatest infrastructure programs of our history and entered into a period of unprecedented prosperity. What a horrible idea.

But during that time the lowest rate was 20% and there were no government give backs like the EITC

BTW 40K a year put you in the 50% bracket back then too so be careful when you pine for the good ol' days

 

[Wyatt earp]

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

yea we know taking $3,000 dollars away from someone is so much bigger then $300,000 dollars

Classic Idiot-Gram ^^^

Even sarcasm can't excuse stupid comments like this one.

^^^^^ classic liberal scam, won't post actual dollars because they know the average liberal don't know how to do math so they use percentages to hide it.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

yea we know taking $3,000 dollars away from someone is so much bigger then $300,000 dollars

Classic Idiot-Gram ^^^

Even sarcasm can't excuse stupid comments like this one.

^^^^^ classic liberal scam, won't post actual dollars because they know the average liberal don't know how to do math so they use percentages to hide it.

I posted actual dollars in the example above. A so called fair tax, everyone pays 10%. The consequences are obvious and there is nothing arcane to the post.

GTFO you know Damn we'll it is a tactic used so well by libs to hide the real dollar amount paid in taxes , just like Gruber lie bullshit and confuse

 

[2aguy]

Talk about inequality. The government has it all while you're at their mercy under his ideas.

Bernie Sanders A 90 tax rate sounds fine to me Hot Air

You mean like they did during the Eisenhower administration, when we created one of the greatest infrastructure programs of our history and entered into a period of unprecedented prosperity. What a horrible idea.

But during that time the lowest rate was 20% and there were no government give backs like the EITC

BTW 40K a year put you in the 50% bracket back then too so be careful when you pine for the good ol' days

Yeah...what you guys keep failing to point out was that the industrial capacity of the rest of the world was destroyed by World War 2 and we had the ability to withstand those horrible tax rates...also considering all the loopholes no one paid at that rate anyway.....

So if we just destroy the industrial capactiy of the rest of the world, a 90% slave.....er......tax rate might be okay...

 

[SAYIT]

The bottom 90% would love to pay more taxes but most of the gains in income go to those at the top.

The top earning 20% earn 50% of America's income and carry more than 80% of our personal federal income tax burden. What would satisfy you? 90%? 100? 110%? As Wry Catcher noted, "stupid people don't usually have high paying jobs." Maybe those earning big bucks do so because they are not "stupid." Would America be better served by placing our wealth in the hands of the "stupid?"

 

[Wry Catcher]

Because the top 10% does not earn 85% of America's income. In fact, the top 20% earns 49.98%, of all income in the US but pays over 80% of the personal federal income tax burden. If you are going to sell your pathetic class war the least you can do is try to refrain from LYING.
Thank you.

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

Evidently the only way you lefties can justify your POV is by lying. Warf claims that our top 10% "are making 85% of the nation's personal income" ... a lie which neither warf nor the comrades have even attempted to support. You now claim that those earning $30,000/yr are taxed at the same rate as those making $3mil/yr ... another lie intended to assuage your constant whining about "the rich." Not one of you has answered the very obvious question first posed pages ago:
the rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%?

Let's face it.....90% still isn't enough...they want complete control by the government.....

They do?

Maybe the net income, after taxes with zero deductions, ought to be expressed, not percentages. Misleading by omission is still dishonest, but maybe some of you whiners don't understand how a progressive income tax works.

Do your homework, and then come back with real world scenarios using actual dollar amounts comported with the actual costs of living in the US in the 21st Century.

Maybe then, with some added critical thinking, including a consideration of all parts and elements of this theory that the wealthy are being exploited by the "death tax" and the progressive income tax, some of you will see the light. I'm not optimistic, it seems the propaganda which permeates the airways has convinced many of you that the concentration of wealth among the few is healthy for our society and culture.

 

[2aguy]

Taxes should reflect an equal burden on all Americans to pay for the services the government has to do.........and not be based on how much successful people have left after they are taxed...so a nice flat tax at 15% or a consumption tax would be fair to all Americans and it would create wealth and jobs for everyone....

 

[SAYIT]

What are the consequences of repealing SS and Medicare? Those who advocate such extreme measure seem to fail to understand the cost-deficit such an action will produce.

Red Herring.
Please list and quote the gov't officials who advocate such a thing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The bottom 90% would love to pay more taxes but most of the gains in income go to those at the top.

The top earning 20% earn 50% of America's income and carry more than 80% of our personal federal income tax burden. What would satisfy you? 90%? 100? 110%? As Wry Catcher noted, "stupid people don't usually have high paying jobs." Maybe those earning big bucks do so because they are not "stupid." Would America be better served by placing our wealth in the hands of the "stupid?"

How much higher does the red line on that chart have to be before you're satisfied?

btw, you might have bothered to note that the income in the chart is AFTER-TAX income. lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Taxes should reflect an equal burden on all Americans to pay for the services the government has to do.

That would make taxes a flat fee not a percentage.