Democrat presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, has no problem with taking 90% of your income

[Wry Catcher]

In fact the top 10% doesn't earn income, they get their money from the labor of others and or moving other peoples money around.

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

What percentage of the nations wealth do the rich control?

Slum lords acquire, none improve or maintain them. That's what defines a slum lord.

I own property, I have improved it and I do maintain it. I bought it when the bubble crashed and now have quite a bit of equity.

Respect is earned. I have empathy for those on the bottom, even those there because they have made poor life choices. I have no empathy for the real rich - they don't need it - but I do respect some of them, not all. As for hate, I have no room to hate anyone, hate is a controlling emotion, one which eats up the hater and is unhealthy.

BTW, define leftist.

 

[PratchettFan]

You mean like they did during the Eisenhower administration, when we created one of the greatest infrastructure programs of our history and entered into a period of unprecedented prosperity. What a horrible idea.

I just love when Marxists bring up the 80% income tax rates of the 1950s as "proof" that high taxes result in prosperity. It shows how ignorant and uneducated you are when it comes to economics.

Actually, the rate was 92% as I recall. I love it when people who have no actual argument just resort to applying labels.

I don't need an argument. I simply understand economics and you don't. It's really that simple. By the way, nobody ever paid 92%.

Of course no one ever paid 92%. But I shouldn't have to explain how the tax system works or how that might impact economics, you understanding it so well. It is a good thing you don't need an argument, since you don't have one.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Taxes should reflect an equal burden on all Americans to pay for the services the government has to do.

That would make taxes a flat fee not a percentage.

So....everyone would pay the same rate.......and the rich would still pay more for you greedy, jealous left wing types....

Please do some homework and read:

How Tax Brackets Work Examples and Myth Busting - TaxACT

 

[SAYIT]

Ignoring your ever-present ignorance, the top 10% of America's earners carry 68% of the total personal federal tax load. Pretty significant for those you claim don't earn any income.

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

What percentage of the nations wealth do the rich control...

Changing the subject is a lame ploy. We have been discussing the personal federal income tax burden. You claim the rich don't pay their "fair share." To that I responded that the top 10% of American earners carry 68% of the load and that the top 20% pay 80% of all personal federal income tax. So what would satisfy you? 90%? 100%? 110%?

 

[2aguy]

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

What percentage of the nations wealth do the rich control...

Changing the subject is a lame ploy. We have been discussing the personal federal income tax burden. You claim the rich don't pay their "fair share." To that I responded that the top 10% of American earners carry 68% of the load and that the top 20% pay 80% of all personal federal income tax. So what would satisfy you? 90%? 100%? 110%?

When confronted by the truth and reality the left has nothing to fight with but lies and emotion.......

 

[Flash]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

 

[Flash]

[


No shit. In 1979 the top rate was 70%. Today it's 39%. A third grader could understand that.

A third grader would understand that it is wrong to take 70% of somebody's earnings and give it away to somebody else. The third grader would call that stealing.

 

[hipeter924]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Earn "by their labor", please try to avoid lying by omission.

So what, in real dollars that means nothing. Take 10% of the income of someone earning 30 k a year and it hurts; take 10% from someone earning $3,000,000 a year and they'll whine, but it won't hurt.

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

What percentage of the nations wealth do the rich control...

Changing the subject is a lame ploy. We have been discussing the personal federal income tax burden. You claim the rich don't pay their "fair share." To that I responded that the top 10% of American earners carry 68% of the load and that the top 20% pay 80% of all personal federal income tax. So what would satisfy you? 90%? 100%? 110%?

I don't recall ever making a claim about fair share. Constantly asking the same question has become span, besides that, it has been answered.

Real dollars are used not to create jobs exclusively, they are used more and more to influence elected officials to create laws favorable to the donors, and usually to the disadvantage of the many, our environment and ultimately our economy. That is the course Plutocrats set and one the progressive income tax, and an inheritance tax, exist to protect against.

By using percentages you've fixed the argument, lied by omission and tried to convince the uninformed that a paradox exists, the rich are really poor. Or more accurately, treated unfairly because of their success, or because liberals are green with envy or other appeals to emotion.

 

[Flash]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

Just stop voting for bad government. Then you won't be part of the problem.

 

[PratchettFan]

[


No shit. In 1979 the top rate was 70%. Today it's 39%. A third grader could understand that.

A third grader would understand that it is wrong to take 70% of somebody's earnings and give it away to somebody else. The third grader would call that stealing.

The thing is that a third grader is a child. That is the kind of thinking one would expect from a child.

 

[bripat9643]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

You can always vote for the Communist Party.

 

[bripat9643]

How else does one earn if not 'by their labor?" Do you imagine money just magically appears in the bank accounts?

Your claim is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they pay vastly more than you do. So what is their "fair share?" How is that defined?

The slum lord labors not, and checks go into the bank, not magically, for the money exchanged is earned by the labor of the renter. Compare the hours spent, and calories expended by the renter with the time spent counting money and raising rents because S/He can.

"fair share"? I've never used the term, for life is not fair. It becomes less far when one resides in a Plutocracy, for the power elite in such a society looks after its own, and will exploit the hoi polloi in any manner of ways. We know this, it is an undeniable truth.

The progressive income tax, the inheritance tax, Unions and collective bargaining are means used in a democratic republic to mitigate strive between the haves and have nots. Yet all of these are under attack by the right wing which now dominates the Republican Party.

Right out of the Commie Manifesto ... thanks comrade!
The rich are already carrying 68% of our personal federal income tax load. What would satisfy you? 78%? 88%? 108%? And how do you suppose your "slumlords" manage to own the rental props? Perhaps by the "hours spent, and calories expended" acquiring, improving and maintaining them? You seem to respect only those on the very bottom while harboring nothing but drooling hate for everyone else.
Typical lefty.

What percentage of the nations wealth do the rich control...

Changing the subject is a lame ploy. We have been discussing the personal federal income tax burden. You claim the rich don't pay their "fair share." To that I responded that the top 10% of American earners carry 68% of the load and that the top 20% pay 80% of all personal federal income tax. So what would satisfy you? 90%? 100%? 110%?

I don't recall ever making a claim about fair share. Constantly asking the same question has become span, besides that, it has been answered.

Real dollars are used not to create jobs exclusively, they are used more and more to influence elected officials to create laws favorable to the donors, and usually to the disadvantage of the many, our environment and ultimately our economy. That is the course Plutocrats set and one the progressive income tax, and an inheritance tax, exist to protect against.

By using percentages you've fixed the argument, lied by omission and tried to convince the uninformed that a paradox exists, the rich are really poor. Or more accurately, treated unfairly because of their success, or because liberals are green with envy or other appeals to emotion.

You whined about the wealthy not paying their "fair share," but you continue to weasel out of defining the term.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[bripat9643]

[


No shit. In 1979 the top rate was 70%. Today it's 39%. A third grader could understand that.

A third grader would understand that it is wrong to take 70% of somebody's earnings and give it away to somebody else. The third grader would call that stealing.

The thing is that a third grader is a child. That is the kind of thinking one would expect from a child.

You expect children to be smarter than you?

 

[Little-Acorn]

Democrat presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, has no problem with taking 90% of your income


The only problem socialists like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have with taking away 90% of your income, is that they can't take 100% of it.

But they're working on that.

 

[hipeter924]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

You can always vote for the Communist Party.

Why? You are the founding member of the GOP branch, handing out free money to corporations.

 

[bripat9643]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

You can always vote for the Communist Party.

Why? You are the founding member of the GOP branch, handing out free money to corporations.

Handing out money to corporations isn't communism, numskull. Furthermore, that's a Democrat specialty. Just consider the record of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Hillary sold her ass to corporations and foreign governments.

 

[SAYIT]

...You claim the rich don't pay their "fair share." To that I responded that the top 10% of American earners carry 68% of the load and that the top 20% pay 80% of all personal federal income tax. So what would satisfy you? 90%? 100%? 110%?

...Constantly asking the same question has become span, besides that, it has been answered...

Really? So far only the wolf has answered the question. His response: "YES!"
Care to repost your response?

 

[hipeter924]

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

You can always vote for the Communist Party.

Why? You are the founding member of the GOP branch, handing out free money to corporations.

Handing out money to corporations isn't communism, numskull. Furthermore, that's a Democrat specialty. Just consider the record of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Hillary sold her ass to corporations and foreign governments.

[


I'm not on welfare.

Then stop supporting the party of welfare queens.

Why? It is either that or vote for Tin Foil hats that think the government is coming to get them. Though I am registered Green, and not Democrat, as if there is any chance to vote for a third party - I take it.

You can always vote for the Communist Party.

Why? You are the founding member of the GOP branch, handing out free money to corporations.

Handing out money to corporations isn't communism, numskull. Furthermore, that's a Democrat specialty. Just consider the record of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Hillary sold her ass to corporations and foreign governments.

Sure it is, ever read a Ayn Rand novel, or something by Milton Friedman? Government support, even with the best of intentions is interference in the market - interference being anti-capitalist through distortions of the market. It is as anti-free market as the welfare state, child labor laws, high taxation, and the minimum wage.

 

[jasonnfree]

90% was a good progressive rate for the richest amongst us. Should be maybe 100% after a certain amount to stop the oligarchy that America is becoming.