Democrat Party Still At The Altar Of Union Masters

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    From 2000, through 2007 Ohio had lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs and foreclosures were the ninth highest in the nation. Family income, adjusted for inflation had also declined.


    Ohio, Michigan and Indiana have similar problems. These companies and jobs that are leaving, are not going overseas, they’re moving to other states, such as Texas.


    The American Legislative Exchange Council ranks Ohio 47th out of 50 in economic competitiveness.


    Ohio has a state income tax-the sixth highest personal income tax rate in the country, just under 9%. To make matters worse, Ohio’s corporations, pay the third highest in the nation at 10.5%.

    A saying that has taken hold in the Buckeye state, declares:

    "Ohio lays out the red carpet for companies - when they leave the state."

    Texas, is a "right to work" state. Workers can make their own decision on whether or not to join a union.


    Texas’ prodigious job growth, since 1997, has seen 1,615,000 added, compared to Ohio's loss of 10,400.


    By December 2007 the unemployment rate in Ohio, was higher than the national average by 1%. In Texas unemployment was below the national average at 4.5%.


    Exports from Texas have yielded $150 billion plus, over a decade, Ohio, 1/4 of that, in the amount of $37.8 billion.


    Per-capita income growth has been 55% in Texas, 43% in Ohio.

    Texas has gained 36,000 manufacturing jobs,compared to those 200,000 lost in Ohio.


    Unions and in this case, wasteful government, present a clear case of the twin giants of special interest destruction.


    None of this has deterred Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and all nanny-state talking heads from seeking more largesse for their masters to continue paying for those $73 an hour union jobs.


    Now it is believed that the union thug bill, more misnamed than anything Lenin, Marx, Stalin, or George Orwell, could have thought of, i.e, the Employee Free Choice Act, (EFCA), where strong armed thuggery will take the place of secret ballot voting, is expected to be signed by Barack Obama, if the Dems send it to him.
     
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    Below are the manufacturing activity and wage tends in Texas: http://www.dallasfed.org/data/outlook/2008/images/0810c3.gif

    http://www.dallasfed.org/data/outlook/2008/images/0810l.gif

    It should also be noted that a UAW union job in Texas pays the same as a UAW union job in Michigan. I mention this because the WSJ article you're numbers are pulled from notes that GM is moving manufacturing facilities to Dallas and implies wages are the reason. GM is moving facilities here to Dallas but is honoring the UAW contract.

    Overall Texas manufacturing is in the same boat as national manufacturing and whether the wage is $73 or $17 an hour you aren't going to compete with $5 per day paid in Asia. Bash unions if you like but they aren't the problem with US manufacturing...
     
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    My article has many facts and figures that emphasize and use the words "Unions and in this case, wasteful government, present a clear case of the twin giants of special interest destruction."

    Isn't it true also that GM already has a plant in Texas built many, many years ago.

    So would the "honored contract" go back to that time.

    Since a GM plant already exists in Texas, is the move you're referring to something major, comparable to the new plant built by Toyota?

    As to manufacturing, all industrial countries lose millions of manufacturing jobs just about every year because of the changing nature of consumer needs and desires. After the 2003 tax cuts, we were doing a much better job of "insourcing" high paying jobs than other countries.

    Unfortunately the continued cover-up of the role of Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and others who create most free-market problems to begin with, and who gave us the housing meltdown, thus a premature end to the expansion cycle, has hurt everyone.

    The policy wonks with no knowledge or appreciation of the difficulties of wealth creation, or the guts to risk creating wealth themselves, that make up most of the Mainstream Media will continue this charade as always.
     
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    Sure, Mcmick, we all know that those dirty ol' union workers were responsible for the decisions that have brought the big 3 auto makers low. Get real. The CEOs that decided that hybrids and electric vehicles were less profitable, and that SUVs were the way to go brought down the auto industry. The same kind of people in banking and insurance, and mortgage business with the same results. People who walk off with golden parachutes worth tens of millions of dollars while the fellow on the factory floor gets a few months unemployment insurance, a foreclosed home, and no health insurance for his children.

    There are going to be major changes in how business is done now. We have seen socialism for the millionaires in the bailouts currently in place. It is time that we see that in health care for the American People. And time that we control executive salaries. These peoples greed are destroying the companies they work for, and they do not give a damn.
     
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    We have more need for unions today than we have in a long time. The last 8 years have been the years of the corporation over the individual worker.

    Since Reagan began the war on the middle class, productivity has continued to go up while wages stagnated. Not the wages of the CEOs but the blue collar workers.

    If Obama can put the middle class back to work and put money in their pockets they can spend and grow the economy.

    Trickle down is still a theory worthy only of a Monarchy.

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    No they went to Mexico and overseas. You were wrong. Clearly.

    And now the Republicans (trump) are talking about bringing jobs home.

    If jobs went south why is the south angry? They would be booming if what you said was true
     
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    So why didn't all these workers just pickup and move to Texas.


    It's harder for an entire company to move it's whole operation. All the worker had to do was rent a U-haul.
     

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