Democracy as we have known it....no longer works

[TheGreenHornet]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.









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[night_son]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.







'

The word you are looking for is Nationalism, not fascism. America will never be ruled by a fascist government. At least not while veterans such as myself and millions of others still breath. We would sacrifice everyone and everything we love to defend our Constitution, social contract and rule of law. Fascism cannot exist in a benevolent form. Nationalism, on the other hand can be benevolent and can focus exclusively on promotion, defense and growth of a nation and its people. And that is exactly what we need in this particular moment in our civilization's history. See, the radical postmodernist Democratic communists believe they can defeat Us by using our own rights and laws against us. Remember how I predicted Fascism will never happen here, in America? It won't. But that doesn't mean an authoritarian smackdown might not be in order to end all this political correctness anti-moral psycho cultural and deep state coup bullshit.

 

[Toro]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.









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tl;dr

 

[Ridgerunner]

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

I am just a little confused... Just what military brouhaha's is it that the POTUS wants us to engage in?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

I am just a little confused... Just what military brouhaha's is it that the POTUS wants us to engage in?

I looked at that after I posted it and saw where I might have should have worded that better as in.......what I was trying to say is that Trump does not want us involved in war after war.....sorry bout dat.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.









'

tl;dr

huh?

 

[Toro]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.









'

tl;dr

huh?

lol

n00b ...

 

[Ridgerunner]

I looked at that after I posted it and saw where I might have should have worded that better as in.......what I was trying to say is that Trump does not want us involved in war after war.....sorry bout dat.

No problem I stay confused...

tl;dr

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[TheGreenHornet]

First of all let me say I know that the political system we have is a republic...so all those nitpickers can rest easy that want to rush here and edumacate me to dat fact. hehheh

Anyhow......to git back to mah topic.....most are fed up with the chaos in Washington, the ongoing attempt to de-legitimize a Presidential election, investigation after investigation...aka mob rule.

The Athenian philosophers disdained democracy. They held that democracy "distrusts ability and has a reverence for numbers over knowledge." (Will Durant, "The Story of Philosophy," New York, New York, 1961, p. 10.)

For the first fifteen years of mussolini ....from 1922-1937, Italy had thrived. Roads long abandoned and unfit for use were dug up and repaved. Factory doors once bolted were opened wide and the businesses running at full capacity. Museum works were refurbished and the train stations modernized and the trains ran on time. Crime that was once rampant, claiming thousands of victims a day, was shut down, the criminals either behind bars or beneath freshly turned ground.
A once starving populace pranced around with full stomachs and pockets crammed with cash. The eyetyes, who for decades had been treated as the adorable doormats of europe, reveled in their fresh avenues of strength.

What I am trying to get to or suggest is that we need a new political philosophy....democracy as we once knew it --worked pretty good as long as we had more or less a homogenous society...aka preponderantly white....that is no longer the case.

Unfortunately someone with power got the idea we needed diversity....more and more diversity...to the point now --we in a few short years --if the current demographic trends continue will have succeeded in transforming whites to a minority status.

Liberals ....rejoice in that not knowing what they have done and are doing.

Thus as anyone not incredibly dumb can see that we are coming un-glued aka coming unraveled.....chaos is in the air and it is getting worse and worse. Someone said there is a thin line between civilization and chaos....we have approached that line and are crossing over it...hence the paralysis in Washington...the increasing division of America as in 'a house divided against itself cannot stand.'

Thus the need to look for a better political philosophy....what kind of political philosophy should we be looking at...well certainly not marxism aka communism or socialism....no record of that succeeding anywhere.

I did not mention the early mussolini era for no reason....what that demonstrates is that Facism works and it worked there until Mussolini decided to pursue war.

Thus I think what we need to look at is an American form of fascism...that excludes seeking war and or getting involved in war after war as Trump wants to do.

An American form of fascism would focus on improving the lives of Americans, our economy, education, medical care etc. Aka.....put America first.

We wasted trillions in the middle east in wars that did not benefit us. As has been pointed out before....getting involved in the George Bush war in Iraq cost us enough money that could have paid for a new home for every American....sounds incredible...but it is true.







'

The word you are looking for is Nationalism, not fascism. America will never be ruled by a fascist government. At least not while veterans such as myself and millions of others still breath. We would sacrifice everyone and everything we love to defend our Constitution, social contract and rule of law. Fascism cannot exist in a benevolent form. Nationalism, on the other hand can be benevolent and can focus exclusively on promotion, defense and growth of a nation and its people. And that is exactly what we need in this particular moment in our civilization's history. See, the radical postmodernist Democratic communists believe they can defeat Us by using our own rights and laws against us. Remember how I predicted Fascism will never happen here, in America? It won't. But that doesn't mean an authoritarian smackdown might not be in order to end all this political correctness anti-moral psycho cultural and deep state coup bullshit.

I am not going to get hung up on nomenclature....you call it nationalism--I call it fascism...you say tomahtoe...i say tomatoe.....irregardless I think we are kinda on the same page.

As in I think our objectives are similar. Now I admit fascism has a very bad reputation due to Hitler being called a fascist and or thought by many if not most to have been a fascist but Hitler was a nazi socialist...but that is a whole other argument.

You are absolutely correct that we need a more authoritative system aka a authoritative smackdown...which will never happen under our current political system.

BTW I am a vet and have no problem with fascism.....by that I mean 'American Fascism' as in nothing like nazism/socialism. I also am a
Zionist and thus in no way sympathetic with hitlerism...but again that is not fascism...though many would disagree and I really do not want to belabor that point as in when I say 'American Fascism' I am talking about something that has never existed but would work exceedingly well here if formulated in a American manner encompassing American tradition and culture aka fairness and justice for all and freedom for most--- the
American way.

I am all for the rule of law but I do not know what you mean by social construct. The constitution I am convinced is just a piece of paper that is constantly violated and despite that still valued by most which is puzzling since we do not follow it...of what value is it? I think we need a new constitution....that takes into account our modern problems.

I realize I am far toooooo radical for most on here....but I might persist in defining what I mean by American Fascism later on.

Just one other thing I will mention at this time....we need a new law on sedition....people in the name of freedom think they have a right to denigrate the President and even our soldiers.....this needs to be stopped....all these phoney hollywood 'cattle' as they have been called using the most vulgar language towards our Commander-in-Chief needs to be stopped.

There is a big difference in licentiousness and true liberty.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Here is a current academic treatise on fascism.....much of which I do not like or would not approve of...thus when I say 'Ameican Fascism' I am not referring to the current understanding of fascism that most have...but it could be referenced to ---regarding forming a New American
Fascism...again...something that has never existed but needs to be explored.

Here is one part of the following that I do like and agree with for the most part.....'In economics, Fascism sees itself as a third way between laissez-faire Capitalism on the one hand and Communism or Socialism on the other. It acknowledges the roles of private property and the profit motive as legitimate incentives for productivity, but only insofar as they do not conflict with the interests of the state. Fascist governments tend to nationalize key industries, closely manage their currencies and make massive state investments. They also tend to introduce price controls, wage controls and other types of economic planning measures (such as state-regulated allocation of resources, especially in the financial and raw materials sectors).'

Fascism - By Branch / Doctrine - The Basics of Philosophy

Perhaps....I should not use the term fascism and instead go with nationalism but I am just trying to be honest.

In a nutshell....our political system is failing and it will only continue to fail and get worse and worse till it collapses....that is the reality which most do not want to believe or even hear about much less talk about...so this is a waste of time actually ...I do it in case there are some out there somewhere that have some ability to see where we are headed.