Delay in supplying trucks led to Marine deaths

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    A two year delay in procuring safer trucks has led to the deaths of countless Marines by IEDs. This goes to Bush and Company's skill at handling war. Where's the oversight? As more and more demands for safer trucks were made, who was in charge?
    Some of you will no doubt suggest I just file this under "oops."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/16/marines.mrap.ap/index.html
     
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    For one thing this article is grossly incomplete...................it isn't just Marines dying in the unarmoured VIETNAM ERA VEHICLES THAT WE SENT OUR TROOPS INTO BATTLE WITH.....................:rolleyes:
     
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    Like what? Humvees?
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/hmmwv.htm

    Or LAV's?
    http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=57

    Or maybe AAV's?
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/aavp7a1.htm

    Yup. Vietnam era "unarmoured" vehicles our Leathernecks are cruising around in...
     
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    There was an article Friday that detailed that much of the problem was the Marine Corps civlian bureuacracy in the our supply pipeline. They wanted to keep ordering the armoured Humvees because they were cheaper and already in the pipeline.

    Sort of like VA burrycrats who said agent orange wasn't real, and today they discharge kids for have "pre-existing" conditions after the conditions develop.

    Take them all and drop them in Iraq or Afganistan with a fukking clipboard.
     
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    Maybe you'll also notice in those articles that you provided, who actually obtained those vehicles besides hummers.....................I wasn't referencing Marines........I was actually refering to the Tenth Mountain Division that deployed from where I live..................:rolleyes:
     
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    No shit? Marines got "hummers", LAV's, and AAV's? Given the title of this thread, and the specific mention of Marines in the original post, I would have assumed the thread would be about the MARINE CORPS' dilemma concerning the MRAP trucks and their impact on the MARINE CORPS. Hmm, my clairvoyant skills must be going dry, for I was unable to see that this whole time you were talking about Tenth Mountain Division SOLDIERS.
     
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    The article I read was specifically on the Corps. The supply side did not order the MRAPs because of cost and that they were new to the system.
     
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    I wasn't trying to dimminish your plight, just to say that you're in no way alone in it..................:eusa_think:
     
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    What is this? Monkey see - monkey do? Bush is not in charge of military procurement. DoD is, then the service secretaries. THERE is your oversight. If you want to point fingers, point them in the right direction.

    What is it you think they should have? AL Capone's vehicle? Wouldn't get very far in the sand it was so heavy with armor. Don't need IED's for sitting ducks. RPG's work just fine.

    And no matter what you do to armor, someone will figure out a way to blow it up.

    I suggest you file it under "Don't know what the Hell I'm talking about."
     
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    Which Vietnam-era vehicles would those be?
     

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