Deep down, do people really care about the rule of law?

[WTH_Progs?]

OP, you're only asking this because you know you don't really care about the rule of law and you're trying to feel better about that.

Aren't you?

Do you think random bold font adds any credibility to the meaningless statements that cum from your meaningless head?

 

[Votto]

Yes, because it is the order that defines polite society,

But once the laws prevent a civil society, then the laws should be ignored.

I used the hiding Jews from the Nazis as an example.

The Left can demonize Jews as much as they want, but if they ever go Jew hunting like their cousins the National Socialists, I will fight them anyway I can.

 

[Votto]

are we a nation of laws or men Rigby?

~S~

The US is now a nation of men, like Joe and Hunter who are above the law.

Trump still answer to it though.

 

[Votto]

Dictatorial laws should never be tolerated, it should be time for pitchforks and torches.

What about Chik fa La being told they must be open on the sabbath in New York?

Is this dictatorial?

 

[Votto]

This has been warned about for decades.

The reason we need the country to be viewed positively is because only a positively-viewed country can maintain its laws to be followed.

If a bunch of people attain power who don't view a country in a positive manner, that country's consititution becomes something not to be revered, but to be discarded when necessary to attain more power.

That's why the leftist, woke, anti-American left is dangerous... they are infiltrating linchpins/bottlenecks and using the power they gain to ignore the constitution to further step on the neck of their opponents in the least democracy-like way possible.. All while claiming the necks they are stepping on are "anti-democracy"

After the Revolutionary war, the Alien and Sedition Acts were passed by the very men who fought a bloody revolution to rid themselves of tyranny. The Acts basically prevented people from speaking out against the government as many were jailed.

Luckily, Thomas Jefferson threw a fit saying it was unconstitutional, which it was. If he had not become President to overturn most of them, the nation would have been a far darker place to live. What was left of the act FDR used to imprison Japanese Americans during WW2, which was also not Constitutional.

At the end of the day, though, the powers that be pick and choose the laws they like and the laws they will ignore, just like we are seeing Potato head do today in the Oval Office.

 

[martybegan]

Thanks for proving my point.

Thank for proving my point

Oh, noes, really? I guess we need to bully people into being something they aren't. Anorexia and Bulemia are much more healthy for girls.


Yes, how dare gays expect what straights take for granted.

Wrong.

You don't get to force acceptance on others.

 

[martybegan]

You are one sick fuck.

About what?

 

[martybegan]

Since homosexuality harms no one else, then there is no legal way to restrict it.
Any attempt to legislate against will be dictatorial since is will not be based on the delegated authority of those it defends.
That is inherently illegal in a republic.

It is against the moral code of many people. Thus why only tolerance should be enforced, not acceptance.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong.

You don't get to force acceptance on others.

No, we can't make you into a decent person, Marty.

We can make you keep it to yourself.

It is against the moral code of many people. Thus why only tolerance should be enforced, not acceptance.

Slavery was once the "moral code" of your people... but we enforced our view about it

 

[Vastator]

Maybe it depends on what law, the penalties, and how it is enforced. Example: the recent ATF reg on AR-15 stabilizing pistol braces, where on Jan 31, 2023 the ATF declared the braces to be an NFA item must be registered and a $200 tax paid, despite the fact that prior to that it wasn't. Millions of people were affected, but only a relative few actually registered their gun while everyone else did not comply. Prohibition is another example.

Deep down, most of us have been brought up to be law-abiding citizens. But sometimes, not so much.

The problem with things like that is that they aren't laws. Congress has never voted on them. What the government can't get done by enacting laws, they merely have unelected officials in made up agencies, enforce policies with all the force of law. This is the kind of shit that many simply cannot accept. Nor should they have to.

 

[martybegan]

No, we can't make you into a decent person, Marty.

We can make you keep it to yourself.


Slavery was once the "moral code" of your people... but we enforced our view about it

Your idea of a decent person is a tyrant.

My people?

My ancestors were either farmers in Ireland, or Tailors and Sailors in Italy.

 

[task0778]

The problem with things like that is that they aren't laws. Congress has never voted on them. What the government can't get done by enacting laws, they merely have unelected officials in made up agencies, enforce policies with all the force of law. This is the kind of shit that many simply cannot accept. Nor should they have to.

Point taken. There have been times when laws written by Congress have been disregarded though, going back to the Whiskey Rebellion and Prohibition. I do think people will comply with laws that are just and fair and impartially applied. That has not always been the case.

 

[Independentthinker]

From my observations over the years, I've noticed that all people seem to have a breaking point when it comes to respecting the rule of law. I think we all have our limits as to what laws we will adhere to, and it does not matter much how society or the government tries to push those laws down our collective throats.

For example, if you lived in Nazi Germany, would you help them round up Jews? I wouldn't, even if it cost me my life.

So, where is your breaking point? We all have one.

And no, Leftists, I'm not impressed with a mob of people outnumbering me on any given subject. Might does not make right or you packing SCOTUS to declare to me what is right or wrong. I really could care less.

I guess if you look at it, the colonists broke the rule of law by going against the British. Everyone seems to think that if their cause is justified then breaking the law is alright and you can justify anything.